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  1. 3 points
    So I was sitting there watching the game yesterday yelling at the TV for Hue to bench our rookie wonderboy and my 5 year old walks up to me. Conversation goes... Maz: Why the Cleveland Browns don't win? Me: Why they don't win? Because they are not very good. Maz: Why don't they win anytime? I then started laughing hysterically that he even noticed that the Browns were horrible. I had no clue he even paid attention. My laugh started to slowly turn into a cry as I realized he even knew this. Last week I was watching the game and somewhat confident they were going to pull off the win while up with a couple minutes left. My wife walks by and I say.."the Browns might finally win!", somewhat confident they could pull it off. She simply replied "No they won't". I became a Browns fan because I was a fullback in high school and looked up to Tommy Vardell. They became my team. I'm not even from or live in Ohio. I'm not sure why I do this to myself but oh well. I love the Browns. It can't be this way forever can it? It will swing around. Has to. We will still be here when it does and it will feel oh so good!
  2. 2 points
    I cannot watch Kizer anymore. The dude threw the ball at Duke's feet the play before the interception and just walked off the field. He's Shmucking done. Why the hell is Hue continuing to hold Hogan back? The kid was showing Kizer up left and right in the beginning of the season. He was better then than Kizer is now! AFTER 13 NFL STARTS!!! We cannot win with Kizer. If we want to finish this season with a win, you guys need to get behind Hogan and let's play this kid. You can say that Hogan sucks but no matter what you say, I cannot agree with you that he's worse than Kizer.
  3. 2 points
    You are freaking clueless. Told you already- you don't cancel the seats because they're for the next generation. When the Browns are playing great, you can sell seats in our section for 2.5X face value, to show you the current level of suckage- for the Ravens game you were getting 30 cents on the dollar, if you could even unload them at any price. Season ticket holders in our class are the most loyal fans out there. There's thousands of folks in the primo sections who outrank us in seniority, their grandparents were season ticket holders from day one. I'll complain all I want to about the crap product. & if you don't like it, then put me on ignore. You're probably the type of person who wouldn't complain to the manager when you got lousy service or a $hitty meal at a restaraunt. The complaining will stop, I'd guess in the unlikely event we ever get to 8-8 in the foreseeable future. The Browns certainly know how I feel after we blast them in our annual "season ticket holder satisfaction survey". EDIT: Here's something else for you to consider War. PSL 100 level sideline (like mine are) are an asset. Doubt me? take a look here: mouse over the sections. http://www.pslsource.com/buy_cleveland_browns_psl/ Nobody, never, ever justs walks away from them unless they're brain damaged. Know anything about the stock market? I could put my PSLs up for sale, and I'd be selling out at the absolute bottom of the market. Not very bright.
  4. 2 points
    I could see Rosen refusing to playing for the Browns because of the attitude problem I’ve heard much of. People are forgetting that I live in Los Angeles, and a lot of people are assholes here. They feel like they’re “above” people. I encountered a few of them at a bar last week. Apparently scouts were warning about his character. NFL GM’s calling him an arrogant prick, and almost every UCLA fan, student, and teacher I’ve known that’s met him hates him. Maybe his teammates like him? But I’ve heard he talks down to coaches and does things his own way. When’s the last time you found someone’s high school coach talk negatively about someone? I suppose they really have to be a pretty big pooper. My friend, who teaches at UCLA’s friend had Rosen as a student in class, and he said the kid was a complete pooper to him. It’s fine though, because character and intangibles don’t matter. A talented player has never been an pooper before. The question is why so many people, students, teachers, scouts, GM’s, football coaches would all make this up as a smear campaign against Rosen? Or maybe, In fact, the kid could be an pooper of new levels. My friend who teaches at UCLA loves UCLA but hates Rosen. And my friend is Jewish, so please save me anti Semitic euphemism argument gipper. I’m full out going to say I think the kid is going to be a major bust because of his character. Mayfield will be a star. If we pick Rosen, I think he could care less about the browns, and perhaps would pull an Elway. Please don’t try and make Rosen into your “ideal qb”, because if he’s truly an pooper, if people will hate him, and if he only cares about himself he’s doomed to fail. If my friend who teaches at UCLA, all the students I know there, and all the coaches scouts and GMs are all wrong about him, then I’ll be grateful and gladly admit I was wrong. But for me, he’s the scariest pick #1 by far. I can’t fathom why so many people would say negatively things about the kid. And if that isn’t a red flag to you, what is? Grabbing your crotch during a game, or tons of people you’ve met who aren’t your teammates calling you an arrogant prick?
  5. 2 points
    If anyone associated with the Browns either in the FO or coaching staff thinks 2018 isn't the year to draft a QB with the #1 overall, they should be fired immediately. FWIW, no one is saying trade down again yet.
  6. 2 points
    Hue's nuts roasting on an open fire Has to douse them in the lake.
  7. 2 points
    Ghoolie loves the Steelers 365 times a year. The rest of his rambling is just filler.
  8. 1 point
    This board doesn't have enough bandwith to answer this question.
  9. 1 point
    Kizer couldn't hold Mcowns jock. Kizers brain speed is the worst of any QB in the NFL. He is not even good enough to consider a a future backup.
  10. 1 point
    Two more weeks until Kevin Hogan is an ex-Cleveland Browns QB.
  11. 1 point
    You'd think short QBs with obvious maturity issues who play in the Big 12 would be red flags too...
  12. 1 point
    How is life in Orlando anyway? Does the Disney Corp. know you live in Fantasyland?
  13. 1 point
    Thanks, man. Belichick has always been famous for releasing and trading important players from NE, just when you'd expect him to keep them. He's a cold man who runs the business showing little or no affection to his players, which allows him to pull the trigger off if needed. That's why I don't buy the 'they traded Garoppolo to SF make him good' Sheet. They traded him there because they were running out of time to get something in exchange for Garoppolo, as he is going to be FA in 2019 and they couldn't afford both Brady's and Garoppolo's new contract. And because there was no time, they didn't call Cleveland, which already offered a 2nd round for him in April, and had drafted Kizer because the Pats didn't accept the deal. And why didn't they call the Browns? Well, if you force a team that offered you a 2nd round, to use that round pick (I know it was not exactly the same pick, but helps to understand my point) in a rookie QB -Kizer-, if you come 6 months later, in midseason, asking for a deal, they will surely offer you less. EVERYONE would offer you less than before. Therefore, instead of getting in long negotiations with the Browns, they opted to directly call the 49ers instead, so they could get the deal done really fast.
  14. 1 point
    http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/article-5/Browns-Mailbag-Why-Hue-Jackson-feels-comfortable-with-Kevin-Hogan-running-offense/9a9f0265-a6c7-4f1a-ae7c-f9b278f58a26 --This was an excerpt from earlier in the season. In limited action this season, Hogan has led the Browns to four of their 10 touchdowns. Three came with the game still in balance. Those drives went 83, 63, 75 and 86 yards and included six plays of more than 20 yards. This past week against the Jets, in particular, saw Hogan get the ball out with quickness and featured a nice mix of run and pass, including a few effective runs on his own. “What he does is he manages the offense, the consistency of where the ball goes, the timing and rhythm,” Jackson said. “There is a rhythm to him when he plays. He understands the rhythms that I am looking for. He has been around me long enough to understand what that looks like. That is what he demonstrated in the game. I think that is what you all saw this past weekend. He has that.” Hogan’s played a lot of football. He started all four of his seasons at Stanford, running an offense that is one of the best at preparing players for the NFL. He’s been with Jackson for more than a year. “Kevin is just steady-Eddy,” Jackson said. “Kevin doesn’t get too high or get too low. He is really steady.” Hogan’s completion percentage of 68.4 would put him fifth among NFL starting quarterbacks if he had enough attempts. That, alone, has been one of the biggest reasons why Cleveland is comfortable with him as its starter. - So Kizer can have an adrenaline fueled miscue multiple times throughout the season but in Hogan's lone start of his career he's supposed to play flawlessly without making a mistake? Seems like a double standard which Hogan probably knew and thus why he pressed, trying to make an impression and it backfired a little. I think that if Hogan had more of a chance and Hue actually worked with him the way he's coddled Kizer all season that we'd have a QB that we could be proud of in Kevin Hogan. - Everybody is looking for a QB that has "it", well Hogan has "that".
  15. 1 point
    Yeah just saw where they are starting Kizer. I think we got the #1 pick locked up. We can stop tanking now. Bench Kizer.
  16. 1 point
    OK, I'll cancel 'em the minute you write me a check for $20,000 so I can buy 'em back in the same section when the Browns start winning. That would make me a FRAK- in Gip's terminology. So stuff it. You don't just walk away from 35 years worth of seniority- probably longer than you've been alive. I have way more right than you do to bitch about the garbage I'm paying that kind of money to watch (with a couple exceptions) every year since 1999. Not to mention the additional wear and tear on the car driving 440 miles to every game.
  17. 1 point
    I mean there was nerve injury in the shoulder but Rosen said it wasn't a big deal. Some scouts think it is. Mora said it wasn't too. I'm sure they'd find out if it isn't the case. Rosen is a better physical NFL-ready QB specimen then Mayfield, and like I said before they both have character concerns, but seriously man, a QB needs to be a leader.... Why these character concerns don't matter to you I don't understand. Had everyone of told me Rosen has no character concerns I would say take him #1, now. But after the massive amount of people that told me every NFL team needs to stay far away from him, obviously I have to be skeptical. I guess you also think Manziel's character concern's were "nonsense". That worked out for us well.
  18. 1 point
    I'm calling BS. Bill B would send his mom to the Browns for the right offer. He could care less.
  19. 1 point
    I've seen every Rosen snap and his pocket movement is Brady like in terms of being slippery and finding a different launch point. While the "mobile QB" tag may never be slapped on him, he's definitely good enough. My only concern is wondering what's in his heart.... Does he love football enough to be great at the next level? He's been hard to read on that for all the years I've seen him play. Just when I think "Hell yea, dude is a warrior" then another game pops up where I wondered if he needed a nap at half time..... I just don't know about his motor.
  20. 1 point
    Here’s all you need to know about the worst head coach in NFL history The Browns are 3rd in the NFL in yards per rush attempt but they have the 8th fewest attempts The Browns are 31st in yards per pass attempt but they have the 7th most attempts with a rookie QB WORST HEADCOACH OF ALL-TIME!!!!!!
  21. 1 point
  22. 1 point
    Then the refs won the game last week for the Packers vs. the Browns. Two pretty clear Pass Interferences on Gordon that were not called....one of which would have possibly been a TD. Blocking in the back and holding not called on that big punt return. The Steelers have gotten way, way, way more than their share of lucky calls from the refs. In fact, wasn't there a horrendously bad call in their favor in the first game of this year, which essentially allowed them to win by 3 pts. vs. the Browns? So...if the refs won that game for the Pats....then the score is like 500-1 now rather than 500-0 in the Steelers favor.
  23. 1 point
    Like Lamar Jackson or Baker Mayfield. Yeah Cal, we know you don't like Rosen very much. I'm not digging in my heels in on a pick yet. Draft is 4 months away, and a lot can happen in that time. What ya gonna do Cal if Darnold (who's Rosen minus the character issues) declares? & right now I have around 4 qbS ranked ahead of Allen.
  24. 1 point
    Uhmm, sorry dude. No team has gotten more favorable calls from the refs than the Steelers have over the years. If anything it was Dan Rooney that "ran the NFL"...until he died. Maybe that has changed now. Of course, if you listen to Jerry Jones, he thinks he runs the league. He calls himself the "ranking owner" in the NFL (because, apparently, he thinks he is the most important owner) But...one thing we do know. If there IS a "ranking" amongst NFL owners.....we know which position Jimmy Haslam holds. Anyone want to guess?
  25. 1 point
    rosen might go the Elway-Manning route and refuse to play for the Browns anyways - just not the right pick for the Browns - too bad, he certainly has the arm, he just doesn't have the class.
  26. 1 point
    http://www.nbcsports.com/northwest/ncaa/josh-rosen-you-think-college-athletes-have-it-tougher-rest-student-body Josh Rosen: You think college athletes have it tougher than the rest of the student body? By Dwight Jaynes August 09, 2017 9:52 AM UCLA quarterback Josh Rosen made headlines this week with some remarks he made about academics and football -- and how they don't mesh very well. He got a lot of attention for an off-hand thought he had about raising the SAT requirements to get into Alabama but that statement was taken out of context. But I have a problem with some of the other things he said, which to me came off as naive or insensitive about others trying to get through college without the benefit of a football scholarship: Look, football and school don't go together. They just don't. Trying to do both is like trying to do two full-time jobs. There are guys who have no business being in school, but they're here because this is the path to the NFL. There's no other way. No one in their right mind should have a football player's schedule, and go to school. It's not that some players shouldn't be in school; it's just that universities should help them more—instead of just finding ways to keep them eligible. Any time any player puts into school will take away from the time they could put into football. They don't realize that they're getting screwed until it's too late. You have a bunch of people at the universities who are supposed to help you out, and they're more interested in helping you stay eligible. At some point, universities have to do more to prepare players for university life and help them succeed beyond football. There's so much money being made in this sport. It's a crime to not do everything you can to help the people who are making it for those who are spending it. Pardon me if I'm not feeling all that sorry for these guys. I worked my way through school. So did my brother. And we had it easy. We had parents in a position to give us a little help. But what about that single mom with two kids working in a restaurant or clothing store trying to get through college? What about that young guy working eight hours of construction all day and then trying to put together enough night-school hours to get a degree? Or how about the kid who isn't working now but will be grinding for the next 20 years paying off that $100,000 student loan? And those people aren't getting the "help" (tutors, advisers, etc..) that those football players are getting. I understand the whole idea of big-time college sports generating a lot of revenue that never trickles down to the players. But I also see a whole lot of athletes -- including the ones who are in college ONLY as a path to the pros -- who place no value whatsoever on that college education. The athletes are often the rare ones leaving school without major unpaid loans hanging over their heads. Let's talk about UCLA, where Rosen goes. It's estimated that the cost of attending UCLA for just one year -- for a California resident -- is $34,056. For a non-resident it's $60,738. PER YEAR. So please, spare me all the talk about athletes not being paid for their athletic participation. They are being given something of great value, whether they realize it or not. Do they have to work for their scholarships? Of course, but maybe no longer or no harder than you or me or, more appropriately, our children did at jobs not quite as glamorous as playing college football or basketball. There's nobody there to give you a standing ovation when you leave that janitor job every night on the way to night school. And certainly you're never going to be the Big Man (or Woman) On Campus -- with all the perks that go with it -- while slinging bento at a local food cart. Spare me, Mr. Rosen. You and your teammates don't really have it so tough.
  27. 1 point
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2744981-good-bad-and-ugly-of-josh-rosen-sam-darnold-on-display-in-uscs-win-vs-ucla http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-football/news/josh-rosen-poor-decisions-memphis-upsets-ucla/1oppsyjx326021me5iwsxwth44 Josh Rosen's decision-making proves costly in Memphis upset of UCLA https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/more-sports/would-josh-rosens-personality-keep-you-from-picking-him-1/73687156/ Draft Analyst's Tony Pauline compares some of the talk of alleged personality issues with UCLA junior QB Josh Rosen to what was said of former Michigan State QB Connor Cook. Per Pauline, at least two NFL GM's have flat-out decided that Rosen will be a stay-away for draft purposes due to his demeanor. Writes the analyst, "Opinions are that Rosen is not the leader they need on the field for the next level -- the things he’s gotten away with on the college field won’t fly in the NFL." Pauline adds that "[t]he word egotistical was mentioned many times in referring to Rosen." We're almost surely going to continue to hear reports along these lines as the draft process picks up speed, but Rosen is also supremely talented -- one evaluator told Pauline that many of his throws are "off the charts" special -- and could well end up the No. 1 quarterback selected in the spring, even with questions of character and demeanor floating about.
  28. 1 point
    Is anyone else wondering what inside his mind? Man, he probably has lost any chance he had to get a starting job in the NFL. If I were him, I'd be wondering what would had happen if I stayed one more day in college just like everyone recommended me to. Maybe he felt the necessity to go to the 2017 Draft due to the 2018 Draft class QB hype that there was already in 2016, but he was raw, went to the worst possible team (WRs, coach, not great RBs...) and failed.
  29. 1 point
    Two Browns in the area... six Ravens... what could go wrong? Can Kizer get it? Dunno and doesn't matter... At this point all that matters is that he has not shown that he has gotten it. That was required to forestall taking a QB high in the draft.
  30. 1 point
    The internet in Ohio will change whenever Google Fiber or 5G cellular makes a debut. I'm thinking 5G will be here first.
  31. 1 point
    Actually that's a pretty bad plan to stick to...
  32. 1 point
    Not only do I still endorse the Process, I still love it.... or at least its memory. No reservations... not even a twinge of embarrassment. My Accord had 245k on the odometer when I sold it. Good, regular maintenance was a key part of the longevity process...
  33. 1 point
    That may be the first Norm Van Brocklin reference in the history of this forum...
  34. 1 point
    I came here with JFF and stuck around because there are a lot of football smart contributors to this board. Now I am content that eventually we will all share in the turnaround that will be there some day. Kind of a nice feeling to maintain hope when all seems so dark and dreary. It's a true measure of character and God knows there are a bunch of us characters still hanging in.
  35. 1 point
    He is enough of a force that he has been switching to multiple positions throughout the game. And every QB is paying close attention to exactly where he is in the line. Flacco was clearly eyeing him and aware of where he was on the field throughout every play, which led to several forced throws just before arrival time. Go back and watch the game closely and you will see what I mean on both accounts. EDIT: And I've been very clear about this all along. What makes Von Miller so effective is having a near equal force coming from the other side. When he had Ware is when they won the Superbowl. There has been a dropoff in his effectiveness after Ware retired and far more double teams/chips since that time as well. Is Garrett up to Miller's level yet? Of course not. But neither was Miller his first couple of years as he was leaning new ways to make himself the force that he is. Bosa is lucky he has one of those equal force players with him now. Get one for Garrett and everything changes. Anyone who truly understands defense understands exactly what I'm talking about. One man can effectively be neutralized by a good OC with a very good QB, but it is far more difficult trying to do that against two at the same time. Ask any OC who had to gameplan Miller/Ware.
  36. 1 point
    Plus, and I know it's possibly a fantasy, but if the Steelers have something to win on the last game of the season and the Browns have the opportunity to rise up and steal one it would be a lot sweeter then beating a team with nothing to gain. WSS
  37. 1 point
    Still don't get it do you, Numbnuts? This Steeler team does not have the heart of a champion. The Patriots do. They came back on the road, stole the ball from Ben, injured Brown and took a shit on the Steeler logo ... Again. Zombo
  38. 1 point
    Maybe McKay will take the dive for Hue. I hear he's partying like it's 1999 now that he's no longer the worst in history.
  39. 1 point
    “If I’m a coach worth my salt I’ll get the best out of Kizer” Hue Jackson, August 2017
  40. 1 point
    Game manager Tyrod Taylor? The same QB that has the Bills averaging just over 15ppg in the second half of the season...? Same QB that has beaten...one? I think one team with a .500 or above record? To be clear - THAT is what you want for your #1 overall pick and THAT is the shining example you're using?
  41. 1 point
    Who even cares? Zero of them have a chance at being successful nfl starters. Look at SF. Addressed the qb issue, and now they're on a win streak. I hate this team. The thorough incompetence at every level is astounding
  42. 1 point
    He was around flacco quite a bit actually. And he played very well at the edge. Nassib played well at the edge too but he just gets no pressure whatsoever.
  43. 1 point
    Notes from happier days.... From the 2017 draft thread: Are you disappointed and why? And on the 2016 draft in the thread: Random musings on The Draft, Our Draft and Who Knows What Else...
  44. 1 point
    Brady forced himself on Pittsburgh like Ben in a restroom
  45. 1 point
    If u told me the #1 pick was on the defense somewhere and the first game i watched was garrets first game against the jets....it would have taken me all of one play. But if i had to sit back and watch a series of games and decipher who the #1 pick was..........i would still pen garrett after collins, obviously. When ur someone who has an eye for o line/ d line dynamics....u know that garrett, while not absolutely dominating games....is prob the 2nd or 3rd best player on the defense alongside kirksey. Thats not based on just stats...thats wayching a player " do his job" which sometimes means camping the edge instead of just blindly rushing the qb. EVERYONE here that knows football is mildly encouraged by garretts play even while injured.
  46. 1 point
    Did they catch up to that offense? Tyrod Taylor disagrees
  47. 1 point
    If his interest in Cincy is the reason he keeps trying to make us gag on Kizer - Jimmy should fire Hue Jmistake today. I highly doubt Hue is just learning of his buddy's desire to step down but I've been wrong before...
  48. 1 point
    You and rich4eagle can both go Thelma and Louise if you want the Steelers to win. You act like a couple of lesbians anyway at times.
  49. 1 point
  50. 1 point
    Bob's right. Even though we are not pure communists we share that with them as we probably do with any other powerful governments no matter what style they take. Control the media you control the country. WSS
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