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  1. 3 points
    Kizer seems to have no clock, therefore, no timing. Leading the receiver too much, throwing behind the receiver, throwing too high, throwing into the dirt ... holding onto the ball too long, cannonballing on short throws.... talented kid, yep. Not ready for the NFL...yep. Not calling him RGIII...but also not calling him ready to play.
  2. 2 points
    What a bunch of wussies. I go to events all the time with no fear whatsoever. If your number is up, it's up. Quit fearing fear!
  3. 1 point
    Hi, Browns fans. Tom Petty, best know for songs like 'Here Comes My Girl.' "Refugee,' ' Stop Dragging My Heart Around,' and Stevie Nicks, and 'Breakdown,' died tonight of both cardiac arrest and heart attack from his home in Santa Monica, CA at age 66. Rest In Peace TP.
  4. 1 point
    When you defense starts out playing well in the first couple series or so and all they get back are quick 3 and outs from an offense lef by Helen Keller with a strong arm - the wind out of sails moment is inevitable. I keep reading Kizer earned the job but what QB has led us to the most points per series combing pre-season and early regular season? What one played in a pro style offense at Stanford? and what one came out of ND's offense with a coach saying his QB wasn't at all ready for the NFL? I understand Andy Reid cut Hogan just like GB cut Kurt Warner when Andy Reid was either the QB Coach or the OC. Sometimes guys emerge at different rates. YES, Kizer has that Kyle Boller/Jamarcus Russell/Brandon Weeden/Derek Anderson bazooka but he also is just as piss poor at seeing the field and reading his progressions. He's late on way too many throws. I gotta at least see hints of touch when necessary - or merely leading guys to the extent there's an ability of throwing guys open. When guys are breaking inside or doing a slant and he throws behind them but they get a hand on it - I don't look at them like they're drops. Their horrible throws that are gotta make at this level. Other times, I see ankle high throws or bounce passes. As I've said, it reminds me of a baseball team around a pitcher that can't and won't find the strike zone all game long. Teammates get out of synch and easily lose focus especially when the ball surprisingly comes in play. It's what we're seeing. The wind out of sails moment was the turnover we got and the offense didn't move the ball a yard before we missed a 48 yard FG. NOTHING-ZIP forecasting the type of time of possession Cincy was about to dominate on us. Ogbah almost got us another turnover but after Cincy recovered it - they put it in gear and never looked back. If we prioritized 3 guys ahead of Kizer in a draft that was often labelled a weak QB draft by draft analysts/experts - I'm not buying he's our franchise QB and we need to treat this like he's Troy Aikman worth every growing pain. And then I see a guy with completion percentages in the 40s each of the last 3 weeks. He needs to watch games from the sidelines like Goff had to for about half a year and Tom Brady had to for all of his first 16 games or Steve McNair had to for 1-2 years. Just frustrated. If you made it this far - thanks for reading folks.
  5. 1 point
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/sep/28/ice-nabs-nearly-500-aliens-sweep-sanctuary-cities/ actually going after criminal illegals. LOVE IT. stupidass traitor obaMao commie sombeitch.
  6. 1 point
    I mean, the season is a quarter of the way over with, so if there's any hope of getting this thing done, it'd have to be done NOW. The only thing I can think of is that the NFL and Gordon could POSSIBLY have an arrangement, in that Josh continues to stay clean AND attends another rehab (which he attended), and if he's met the other conditions, his application will be reviewed with the assumption that he'll be reinstated. Think about it. Why would he attend another rehab stint? He just went earlier this year. There's been zero indication of poor behavior or failure to adhere to rules, other than speculation that he didn't do something right in August (nothing confirmed). And like the article said, there's no timetable for decisions on applications. It could literally take 30 minutes. Look, the NFL wants to help Gordon. They want a good story showing they are compassionate and they want to help people. The NFL has enough negative press right now, and they know it. If Gordon truly is sober and he truly has done what was asked, then he has a shot. What would be the reason to keep him suspended? To punish? To prove a point? It literally doesn't make sense. Josh has made his bed, we get it, but at some point the punishment doesn't fit the crime. Jesus Christ the man smokes weed for crying loud. Here in Florida you can get a dang prescription for it, and it's far safer than any opioid pain killer. You wanna talk about a shot in the arm? You want to see a WR who can win one on one match ups? Someone who can get deep or get yards after the catch? Give me Josh Gordon, Myles Garrett, Jamie Collins, and Danny Shelton, and then give me Corey Coleman back and let's see this team.
  7. 1 point
    Stop draggin' my heart around RIP Tom
  8. 1 point
    He was the Kevin Hogan of rock and roll. Gone too soon, for sure.
  9. 1 point
    It's always easier to blame someone else....
  10. 1 point
    Guessing this will be Goodell's or someone else's fault?
  11. 1 point
    I love Charlie Daniels tweet. . . Here comes the more gun control bunch again. Ms Warren, Chicago has enough gun control laws to paper the south wall of the Grand Canyon.
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  13. 1 point
    Not sure of your point here but to be sure the right wants the attackers. We want them dead. Quickly. What we don't want is to pretend it's Hardware that kills people oh, on the contrary it's crazy people who killed people and the more of them we take out the safer we will be. I assume plenty of people on the left feel the exact same way but they just can't bring themselves to admit it. WSS
  14. 1 point
    No dumbass. Cal has always been on the lookout for Russian skullduggery. It's me that doesn't give a damn about it and thinks we should have a closer relationship with the russkies. Always have. So you two guys can meet in your bomb shelter Cleve. (If Cal can stand the smell) WSS
  15. 1 point
    Just keep them away from our pitching staff... Live viewing would really suck as does most racing outside of an oval. And even on TV a lot of the DRL action is too fast to follow, but as you get a sense of the "track" and the field thins out, it does get better. On a positive note I think I just ID'd an item for my Christmas wish list. Plus there are virtual options... DRL offers one.
  16. 1 point
    As I said before at least two more games until we throw in the Hat and go with another untested guy. Thanks to Sushi who pissed away any other quarterback with any NFL experience we're kind of screwed. WSS
  17. 1 point
    And drafting a million receivers didn't seem to work too well either
  18. 1 point
    Jimmah is thinking: What is the next new flavor of slurpee that I should be selling at my truck stops. Perhaps not Orange and (seal brown) Caramel.
  19. 1 point
    Yeah? Well assuming he should be able to participate and contribute this Sunday... On balance I try to be positive but I realize that the only way to shut up the guys that aren't positive is on the field. And it ain't happening yet. WSS
  20. 1 point
    One of those great moments. Thanks Tom! The Great Ones always leave too soon. RIP!
  21. 1 point
  22. 1 point
    Hogan That's the answer. Always. Apparently
  23. 1 point
    They should just take the best player available on the boards. Making all the little moved is good press but adds zero playmakers on a team that has zero playmakers. The math must be too damned simple for Harvard grads
  24. 1 point
    What are the odds on the Browns winning any of those?
  25. 1 point
    You''re a lot more patient than I am coming off 1-15 football. In fact, this franchise is only 4-37 in its last 41 games. I think it's about time to make winning a little more urgent around here than sentencing us to the growing pains of a guy that may only be the next Brandon Weeden.
  26. 1 point
    Thanks for so many kick a$$ guitar riffs put into words Tom Petty..From your concert friends with the Traveling Wilburys "Your headed for the Lights"..Far to Soon our Friend ..RIP Tom Petty (or just play'em some Wilbury Twist)
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  28. 1 point
    Would the Browns want a short term fix though? Watched a touch of that game. Chiefs and Redskins are playing a brand of football I'm not familiar with after getting fed Browns crap. Passes on target. Recievers that actually catch passes....
  29. 1 point
  30. 1 point
    Cool... look forward to actually meeting. I'll be in the new, orange Joe T jersey. Wife will be in the JJ Watt #99... that ought to narrow it down for you...
  31. 1 point
    But PO is right about one thing- the Hogan train is picking up steam- even among us long time season ticket holder fans. Right now I'd even take a booze free Manziel over Kizer.
  32. 1 point
    Last one easy, Kenny Britt.
  33. 1 point
    Do you know what is more Shmucking annoying? I'll give you one guess and a hint- It's not winning. Just take the poll and zip it. Maybe we'll put the names up on the poll next week just to see who's getting it. I think I know where your name will be.
  34. 1 point
    I hope Hue is realizing that starting Kizer is NOT WORKING. The defense seems to be frustrated now, the receivers seem to be frustrated. Even a rookie qb should know better than to cannonball the football to a back or wr on a five yard pass. I honestly believe that the Browns would have won the Pittspuke game if Hogan had started. I gave it four games to know where we're at...and we are in deep crap. The defense is getting frustrated, Kizer is not wiser, seems that the simple fundaments for him break down the instant he has to survey the field.I haven't even watched the cincy game yet - we went camping. But I heard enough on the radio coming home, to wonder why the (&)(*& he doesn't get throwing the ball away, looking off receivers, and how hard is it to throw the ball away and not get an intentional grounding penality. Did I hear that right? that is what was called? Every defense knows Hue will protect Kizer with the running game. So, he keeps running on first and/or second down, and they keep stomping the running game into the dirt. Seems like the Browns defense changed coverages to screw with cincy - except the Browns secondary confused themselves. Would have been better off keeping Haden to play vs A.J. Green. Kizer won't start getting it, if he ever does, by playing more now. Start Hogan next week. Name him the starter now. and, tell Hue to get an offensive coordinator. His play calling isn't fooling very many defensive players. Looks to me like the offense is flat outdemoralizing the defense, and the entire Browns fans collective watching the games. Personally, I would tell the players to win a game before trying to protest during the National Anthem, or better yet, do your protests BEFORE or not at all.. But Hue is too nice, too much a players coach.
  35. 1 point
    lol All kidding aside, I DID write Jimmuh a letter. (honest to God) I complained about the uniforms and asked him to ditch them just as soon as the league would allow. Here's pretty much how I finished the letter: The team is lousy, that’s understandably hard to fix. But the uniforms were fine. Classics actually. Why on earth did we have to mess with them? To ‘modernize’ them?! Ya know what? I bet the Yankees don’t swap their pinstripes for polka dots any time soon. You’ve taken the team to all-time lows in performance and appearance. When the league allows, please change the uniforms back to what the people of Cleveland fought to preserve. (I’m not going to finish with a Thank You…because I can’t think of anything to thank you for). --------- .......I'm not proud that I wrote that. Even though I'm posting it here. I'll probably get bashed. But I sent it because that's part of how I felt. - By the way. I DO like the name BROWNS on the pants leg......but I'm the one that thought that up (and I told him that too). The proof is on another message board. My idea for the lettering down the pants went like this however: B R O W N S enclosed inside a stripe down the pants. So they modified my idea somewhat.
  36. 1 point
    Sweet Jesus, another Hogan poll again?
  37. 1 point
    What we need is EVERYONE to have a gun on them. Right? That way we'll ALL be safe. Can you imagine if everyone had a gun at the concert? People would've been shooting willy nilly in all directions thinking that EVERYONE else was the shooter. Or better yet, someone yells, "It's coming from that hotel!". And then everyone's firing willy nilly at the hotel. ANYWHERE at the hotel.
  38. 1 point
    I'm really starting to view Kizer as DA v2. Throws the long ball but NO touch on the short stuff. Also seems that the same guys dropping balls thrown by Kizer haven't had that same issue with passes thrown by Hogan or Kessler. I'm all for starting Hogan & letting Kizer learn without killing our games. Besides, I'm taking my Grandson to the Jets game & won't be able to walk out! Mike
  39. 1 point
    He should've sat till the end of the season and then maybe played a game or two. Again, we needed a QB to put us in shape to WIN GAMES. Not spend years and years searching for second or third round talents to let them have a year to see if they can be a "franchise QB"
  40. 1 point
    I was ok with Kizer being the starter, but yeah, you're spot on on his accuracy and touch. No need to hurl a Jose Mesa fastball on a simple TE safety valve. I do't think a 21 year old can get ruined by sitting a bit. Hue should have never put him back in vs the Ratbirds, it's been all downhill since the migraine. Start Kizer vs the Jets. He struggles again, yank him.
  41. 1 point
    LOL, like a couple season ticket holders? Message to Hue, start holding guys responsible for bad play. If Britt is the best we got at WR, God help the Browns. You'd have to be blind to not see in limited action Hogan played better than Kizer. What you waiting for Hue? To get fired? I recommend this for the next game... We can bring one guy out of retirement, and suit the other guy up....
  42. 1 point
    wow. I was fully expecting, "screw off, Soju! This board is for REAL fans! But, I AM a real fan. Just down trodden and left in despair. I'm sort of comforted in a way knowing that even BIGGER Browns fans are feeling like me.
  43. 1 point
    i'm old enough to remember the Kosar days and still hold out hope that the Browns will someday have a winning record. I still think Kizer is the best rookie QB we've had in a while, not sure what happened between the first game and now but hopefully he shakes off these losses and gets back to form. I know it's hard to remember but Kizer did have a decent game against the Steelers and looked good during preseason, the potential is there it's just a mix of shitty play calling and shitty receivers that are wrecking his mind. Hopefully he doesn't go the way so many rookies have in the past, having their careers ruined by the Browns' trademark ineptitude. i've moved around quite a bit and have attempted rooting for other teams but i always come back to the Browns for some unknown reason. I used to get mad every Sunday but it was too much, now I just accept the fate that this is the Browns and I'm in for some comedy on Sundays. I was hoping my kids would grow up Browns fans, but now it feels like child abuse to dress them in Browns gear. The first ever Browns game in my son's life was when the Browns played the Ravens and lost on a kick 6, comedy gold! I think I"ll start buying them some Bengals gear, I don't want them spending their Sundays like I do; sighing at a TV watching the Browns get worse and worse as the season progresses. Seriously, I miss having players like Joshua Cribbs who would lay it all out for the Browns and play his guts out every Sunday, too many players on this current team are half-assing it and don't seem to care that they're embarrassing themselves.
  44. 1 point
    I really think we're going to know Gordon's future very soon. He's out of rehab, his application for reinstatement is probably submitted, right? He completed a 90 freaking day inpatient treatment plan, and that's pretty serious guys. That's a quarter of a year, living in a clinical setting, receiving treatment, working on issues, striving to be better. How is that NOT what the NFL wants? To say we need him is the understatement of the year, and the NFL knows this. They don't WANT our Browns to completely suck because it actually hurts their product. I fully believe the NFL will reinstate Gordon IF (biggest if ever btw) IF Gordon really did everything they asked.
  45. 0 points
    'Cause we're FREEEEEEEEEEEE.....FREE FALLIN' Tom Petty RIP
  46. 0 points
    ...and now it seems that Tom Petty is probably going to join him.
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