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  1. 3 points
    Well at least u witnessed a reception. ๐Ÿ˜š
  2. 2 points
    For the time being....I choose number 1. Stay with Kizer. Kessler can't (or won't) throw the ball downfield at all. I don't think Hogan is all that great and I think you said it. He's 21 years old...he's played 2 1/2 games and there are going to be some growing pains. Watching Mariotta yesterday reminded me of watching him play against the Browns two years ago and he looked pretty shitty in that game, Browns sacked him like 10,000 times and the Browns won with Manziel completing like 4 passes but managing to hit a couple of bombs to Benjamin. Now watching him lead his team to a beat down of the Seahawks yesterday shows how far a player can progress in a couple years by playing and clearly he is getting better as he plays. Hopefully, Kizer can have that same type of progression but there's only one way to find out. As for trading for Grabsapillow....how do we really know he's all that great? Could trade a couple of #1s to find out he's actually no better than any of the QB's on the team.
  3. 2 points
    Haslem has been a fucked up mess since he bought the team.....terrible hires(repeatedly).....inappropriate fires.....tampering with the draft, THEN firing people for it....etc etc etc.... He has dug a hole so deep, he doesnt even know which way is out anymore........ Lerner looks brilliant compared to this twat....
  4. 2 points
    I've said all along this is a terrible and divisive way to protest. It seems to me if you are protesting something you would want to win people over to your side and all this does is to make a large number of people angry and that is counter productive to their cause. It is made even worse by a Browns team that is 0-3 and should be more focused on winning football games. I thought they had figured it out with the team coming on the field with the police, military and first responders and respectfully standing for the national anthem with their arms locked together. They got a lot of POSITIVE response for that.
  5. 2 points
    Here's where I stand on this. I hate when they kneel. I disagree not only with the approach but also the existence of the purported systemic injustice they are protesting. I am a mostly Republican and a definite conservative AND I BELIEVE IN OUR CONSTITUTION. You know, that piece of parchment that gives us FREEDOM of speech and expression. If you are a vet firstly thank you. Secondly whether you are a vet or support our vets you have to support freedom. We cannot only support freedom when it aligns with our own opinion. The second we do we are no longer a free nation we are on the path to those we fight. Now often I hear people try to refute this based on the fact the players are working. I again have to disagree. If I were at work and they played an anthem I disagree with I'd sit and I would not be fired. That is a lot different than if you were on the clock giving speeches. Now relative to the Presidents tweets I'm sorry but many of them are inappropriate. Hell I often agree with things he says and might expect myself to tweet it but not the leader of America!! He needs to grow the fuck up and act like a professional and president. I respect the office, agree with many of his policies but his approach leaves a lot to be desired.
  6. 1 point
    Here you go, some of my observations after yesterday's game, after having had a while to stew, steam and think about it: The Good: The way the Browns adjusted both offensively and defensively after being down 28-7. They made a game of what was turning into a blowout. The question is: why could they not play the first half the same way the played the second half. The Bad: A. Kizer's accuracy at times/and some of his decision making. Don't know if this is going to be a continuing thing for him throughout....but hopefully, it will just be growing pains. B. The Browns continuing problems running the ball. Some of this may be attributed to being behind by so far...but it is still unacceptable The Ugly: The dropped passes by our receivers. What were there...at least like 8 of them. Kizer was 22 of 47...which is clearly an unacceptable 46.8%. A lot of that, sure, was his own inaccuracy...but a lot of it was just plain dropped balls. Hell, if just half of those had been caught it could have made the difference in the game. The Stupid: A lot of the play calling is still head scratching. We have a young QB and you want to give him some confidence. Instead, you have him bombing away like he was fucking Sonny Jurgenson in his prime. Give the kid a chance with a few screens, a few short passes to his backs. Some of this was done, but it was very, very limited. The Fucked Up A. The coverage on T.Y. Hilton. They left him wide open most of the first half. To me, this is THE single biggest factor that lost this game. The same thing happened against Pittsburgh. There, as far as I was concerned, only Antonio Brown could beat you. Here the same, only T.Y. Hilton could beat you. The defensive play calling ALLOWED T.Y. Hilton to beat us. No other receiver on that team was worth a shit really...and let you allowed him to be covered one on one by #21..Jamar Taylor, who was beaten like a rented fucking mule on just about every play. And when he caught the Ball, Taylor and Peppers must have thought they were playing on an ice rink the way they kept falling down on their fucking faces instead of making a tackle. They did adjust in the second half....but Hilton had such a big first half that it was too little too late. B. The way they let Jacoby Brissett get out and run on them for those TDs. He just walked into the endzone. And at times when they were trying to tackle him they just lunged at him, again falling on their asses instead of making plays. So...again, I ask: why could not they play the kind of defense in the first half that they played in the second half when they adjusted...and cutoff all the fucked up way they were playing in the first half?
  7. 1 point
    Hue has saddled his horse, now he's gotta ride it....... The 21yr old was destined to struggle from his 1st snap and he has, but there is nowhere to go but up and now we just need to see how high Kizer's ceiling is and how fast he can get there.
  8. 1 point
    Yeah otherwise cal's russian troll farm overlords will bid him spread his clickbait on the browns forum. Get ready for blaze spam and cool stories about global warming from a website about guns and ammo
  9. 1 point
    Hue Jackson does everything he can to win.... his way... any other way is wrong even if it has a better chance of winning games. Relying on short and play action passing with running is wrong!!! because its not his long vertical passing game.... Kizer is the best QB on the roster...because Hue Jackson WANTS him to be...
  10. 1 point
    Right now I have more problems with how our defense is not playing than I do with a rookie QB who is playing a little better than I actually expected when compared to all the other great QBs who also struggled their first year or so. If the defense could get to playing better, all these complaints would end with a few narrow victories.
  11. 1 point
    Cal stop watching football. Same fir u steve. You guys obviously will never get over this so its time to stop watching football and coming here to talk about the browns.
  12. 1 point
    Coming off 1-15, after a 3-18 finish from the previous regime, 8 consecutive forfeits is asking a lot of this fan base. It's not like Kizer is the 1st or 2nd pick overall. He's a 2nd round QB that threw 2 nice deep balls in the preseason. I'd rather have the 21 year old watch Hogan from the sidelines real soon.
  13. 1 point
    Simply put....Kizer is not throwing ideal - easy to catch - passes....the ball is consistently flying over their heads, in the dirt and behind them.....
  14. 1 point
    They used them up on defense then proceeded to waste as much time as they could on offense.
  15. 1 point
    Plus...they threw on first down a million times.....then ran on 2nd and 10....then ended up with 3rd and long....over and over and over again....
  16. 1 point
    Fuck you 'Policeman'. You're a fag.
  17. 1 point
    No. Don't listen to him. Cleveland is a great football town. SELL the team. Admit that you haven't a clue how to select good management. (evidenced by your Pilot J's Flying Circus problems...and by your tenure as an owner of a football team)
  18. 1 point
    conditional is subjective, you idiot. " subject to one or more conditions or requirements being met; made or granted on certain terms: " There is no subjectivity . It's concrete - you know the UCMJ, and abide by it. That's it. There are no "certain terms" made or granted. There are no "conditions" where you follow an illegal order, there are no conditions where an illegal order is allowed to be issued. None. Were you in the military? You are wrong. There is NO condition where you don't have to follow a legal order. There is no condition where you are allowed to obey an illegal order. Not conditional.
  19. 1 point
    I'm right there with you. He's a groove back with above average physical talent but that's about it IMO. He won't ever take games over, but he'll have a few scattered 100 yard / 2 TD performances in his career. Duke is the guy that Hue wants to use and for good reason, he's a weapon. But he's not a volume carrier and right now he's a defensive key. Without anyone to take the pressure off him, he'll be bottled up often. What we need is a volume back with a see the hole, hit the hole mentality that can get us into those "plus" situations - 2nd and 4, 3rd and 1, etc. Those situations allow Hue to open the playbook up a little more and will drastically alter playcalling tendencies, making it harder for opposing DC's to gameplan for us. It would be wonderful to go and get a guy like Barkley and just hand the reigns over to him but I don't see this FO spending an early pick on a RB unless he's the second coming of Jesus. A guy like Chubb in the second round would be a perfect complement to Duke IMO - he's a thick back with great vision and patience. His chunk run percentage is probably lower than most and his top end speed will never be elite, but he's great for 5 and 6 yard gains and, best of all, he breaks tackles. To top it off, the guy is apparently a great teammate and a weight room monster.
  20. 1 point
    I agree with that. There are reasons that the NFL is losing viewership and support. This is only one of them. Those of us who follow bad teams like our beloved Cleveland Browns should at least be able to pretend that they care about us and that means our country our city our tradition etc etc. Maybe that's naive but if we learn they don't give a shit either way, or even worse actively dislike us, and just want our money it's not as much fun to watch them. And it's certainly not as much fun to make excuses when they suck. And as I noticed again and will mention again yesterday while I was watching the game with the Gipper I think we both noticed a handful of bad calls. Did the bad calls shift the game one way or the other? Hard to tell but they can certainly turn the tide when a phantom holding call or an overlooked helmet-to-helmet allows your opponent to advance. WSS
  21. 1 point
    Trump is an incompetent, inept, irrational, irresponsible asshat (who LOOKS more like a clown than just about anyone I have ever seen...and who should have stuck to being what he was good at....being a game show host). Leno retired because he was over the hill...had nothing to do with any college in Ohio.
  22. 1 point
    Gipper kind of stole My thunder a bit . But I agree, you don't have the kid coming out like the mad bomber.. like Gip said.. Some screens and some curl outs for him to establish a rhythm.. which never happened.
  23. 1 point
    STOP FUNDING THE ASSWHOLE PLO NOW !!! Taylor Force, a U.S. Army soldier "led his platoon into combat on two deployments, one to Iraq and one to Afghanistan โ€” and he brought them home safely" as recalled by his parents, Stuart and Robbi Force, in an emotional tribute given earlier this week. As told by the algemeiner: "Stuart Force said, 'Our son Taylor was murdered by a Palestinian terrorist in Jaffa, Israel, while walking to dinner with classmates from Vanderbilt University. They were MBA students visiting Israel to interact and exchange with Israeli companies. After the terrorist was shot and killed, his body was returned to his family by the Israeli authorities. 'The celebrations began,' Force noted. 'His family immediately qualified for a monthly stipend of up to $3,500 from the Palestinian Authority.' Fighting back tears, Force added: 'The celebrations heightened when they found out that Taylor was an American.'" The Taylor Force Act, now being considered in the Senate, is named in memory this U.S. Army veteran, West Point Graduate, Vanderbilt student, and Eagle Scout. If passed, the Act defunds the Palestinian Authority (PA) until it ceases payments and benefits that reward terrorists and their families for acts of terror against Israel and the U.S. We urge the Senate to pass the Taylor Force Act that will cut the supply of blood money from U.S. taxpayers to the Palestinian Authority. We cannot reward acts of terrorism like the one that tragically took the life of Taylor Force. "Pay to Slay" must end. The murder of innocent Americans and Israelis must end. It is vital to this cause that you stand with us to demand that CONGRESS STOP TAXPAYER FUNDING OF PALESTINIAN TERRORISM AGAINST ISRAEL. One click here or on the banner and your name will be automatically added to the petition. + + The greatest threat to "peace" in the Middle East is the all-consuming goal of these radical Islamists to eliminate the tiny nation of Israel. Earlier this week, 24 Israeli mayors representing 450,000 residents of Judea and Samaria sent a letter to Senator Tom Cotton calling on him to encourage U.S. Senators to pass the Taylor Force Act. The letter states: "If we truly want to give peace and coexistence a chance to blossom, then removing the poisonous message that underlies the need for the Taylor Force Act is a critical first step. The PA should receive the very clear message that the U.S. government will no longer look the other way when terrorists are publicly glorified. By exposing these blatant efforts to influence the next generation of Palestinians away from genuine peace efforts, your amendment actually gives peace a chance to take root." The Taylor Force Act will force the PA to face the consequences of its cynical, outrageous payments if it does not end this abhorrent practice. Before any more "aid" money is sent to the Palestinians to use to fund and inspire acts of terror, the United States government MUST STOP turning a blind eye to these actions that are against international law and are horrifically unconscionable. We stand with these Israeli mayors and residents of Israel. The Trump administration has also announced its "strong support" for the Taylor Force Act. That's why we are petitioning the Senate to pass the Taylor Force Act. Thank you for joining us in this important anti-terror effort! God bless you, Mat Staver, Chairman Liberty Counsel Action P.S. In closing, Stuart Force said, "Together, we can ensure that our voices and Taylor's voice will be heard in the fight for freedom and justice." Passing the Taylor Force Act is a fitting tribute to this American hero.
  24. 1 point
    Idc about the rest of the league But these dumb cunts on the Browns need to stand up and win some football games. Kneel during the anthem on your own time - or even better, use some of your millions to help make things better - on your own time. If these jackasses could actually win some football games then idgaf what they wanna do during the national anthem.
  25. 1 point
    Ghoolie owning the Browns? The city of Cleveland would be praying for the team to move. Its virtually impossible to win when your QB has thrown 6 INTs in 2 games and is completing less than 50% of his passes. Kizer has dropped like a rock from his first game where he showed promise for a rookie. http://scores.nbcsports.msnbc.com/fb/playerstats.asp?id=30165&team=5&page=logs Blaming Williams is wrong when the offense is constantly turning the ball over.
  26. 1 point
    This sums up how I feel about protests during the National Anthem. I respect and cherish freedom of speech, but do you have to spit in the face of the very men and women who allow you to enjoy it? To you NFL players kneeling........ Take a little trip to Valley Forge in January. If you don't know where that is, just Google it from the sidelines. Hold a musket ball in your fingers and imagine it piercing your flesh and breaking a bone or two. There won't be a doctor or trainer to assist you until after the battle, so just wait your turn.Take your cleats and socks off to get a real experience. Then take a knee. Then, take a knee at the beach in Normandy where, man after American man, stormed the beach, even as the one in front of him was shot to pieces...the very sea stained with American blood. The only blockers most had were the dead bodies in front of them, riddled with bullets from enemy fire. Take a knee in the sweat soaked jungles of Vietnam. from Khe San to Saigon...Anywhere will do. Americans died in all those jungles.There was no playbook that told them what was next, but they knew what flag they represented. When they came home, they were protested as well..and spit on for reasons only cowards know. Take another knee in the blood drenched sands of Fallujah in 110 degree heat..Wear your Kevlar helmet and battle dress...Your number won't be printed on it unless your number is up! You'll need to stay hydrated but there won't be anyone to squirt Gatorade into your mouth. You're on your own. There's a lot of places to take a knee. Americans have given their lives all over the world. When you use the banner under which they fought as a source for your displeasure, you dishonor the memories of those who bled for the very freedoms you have. That's what the red stripes mean. It represents the blood of those who spilled a sea of it defending your liberty. While you're on your knee, pray for those that came before you, not on a manicured lawn striped and printed with numbers to announce every inch of ground taken...but on nameless hills and bloodied beaches and sweltering forests and bitter cold mountains...every inch marked by an American life lost serving that flag you protest. No cheerleaders, no announcers, no coaches, no fans...just American men and women...delivering the real fight against those who chose to harm us...blazing a path so you would have the right to "take a knee." You haven't an inkling what it took to get you where you are...but your "protest" is duly noted. Not only is it disgraceful to a nation of real heroes, it serves the purpose of pointing to your ingratitude for those who chose to defend you under that banner that will still wave long after your jersey is retired... GOD BLESS AMERICA! By Stanislaus Drew This is copyrighted material in its original form please feel free to just copy and paste it to share.
  27. 1 point
    Lol. Of course if I had his job we would have Mitch trubisky learning from Josh McCown with Malik Hooker and OJ Howard. WSS
  28. 1 point
    Combining politics with sports does not make politics better. But it does detract from the sporting event. Kinda funny how the NFL is so willing to alienate about half the country.
  29. 1 point
    I should have done the same... I won't bang on Peppers- he's doing what he's coached to do... There were other guys in the Brows secondary that played far worse... A lot of those punts were moon shots that had no reasonable chance of a return. I counted ONE that Peppers could have not fair caught.
  30. 1 point
    I hear you. His rhetoric is exactly what got him in. I think it has less to do with his intelligence and more with the immense hate and fear in most of rural America. he's great at feeding off people's fears and hate. He's a master at it like all great con-men and salesmen. He'll say anything and promise anything to get the deal. I think the players are just trying to bring enough attention so the issues get addressed by people who can actually do something. Other than donating $$$ (which many did, esp CK. he donated $1 million I think) they can't do anything. Now they're just doing it to spite him. I wouldn't be surprised at all if Trump's just using this as a distraction from the other bigger issues in the country. He always finds a way to get people riled up.
  31. 1 point
    While you're away I do hope you'll gain the ability to distinguish between 'there, they're and their'.
  32. 1 point
    I agree 100%. Coach him up right then and there....and impart your wisdom on/with him. - Williams can run the D right? Brings me back to my question; who dubbed Hue a QB guru back when he was signing on with us?
  33. 1 point
    Didn't those mighty Squealers lose to the lowly Bears? He is what I thought he was.... Sorry Tour- he pretty much sucked.... ^^^^ Preaching to the Choir here BH. One circus catch does not equal 10 errant ducks Tour. That one wasn't particularly a good pass. Like a bunch not remotely catchable. He had several guys open on patterns that he missed badly on. Right now, Kizer has a slight edge on the Infamous Akilli "Worm Burner" Smith of Bungle disrepute.
  34. 1 point
    Is it possible you are right but, just, like, nobody likes you?
  35. 1 point
  36. 1 point
    To play devils advocate though, have you heard of job where you discuss your political views in though? Nurses don't talk about political views, or doctors, or lawyers, or even people who work in the film industry. Most people just show up and do their job. The president was out of line, but the last thing I want is the cleveland browns pregame turning into a social justice warrior platform.
  37. 1 point
  38. 1 point
    I couldn't imagine what it would be like playing the position when your guys drop 8 footballs. To put the ball in the bread basket just to have the ball dropped is a joke. On top of that, 4 offensive PI calls (two of which would have resulted in 1st downs) and what the fuck do you expect. Kizer made some bad throws, I'm not gonna defend those. But 8 drops? who the fuck is supposed to excel with EIGHT drops?
  39. 1 point
    If it was all about drops we would be in agreement but Kizer is inaccurate and takes to long to read the field. These were knocks on him in college and typically those things donโ€™t get corrected. Brady Quinn, Brandon Weeden, Manziel and Colt McCoy all had issues in college but the Browns so desperate to draft the next QB took them and they all had the same flaws as they did in college
  40. 1 point
    I'm not wallower, but how can this keep happening? It's like Groundhog Day, how can it keep being this bad?
  41. 1 point
    Taylor cannot cover Hilton at all. They better cover him with three guys from here out
  42. 1 point
  43. 1 point
    Suddenly mowing the grass seems a lot more fun than watching this crap...
  44. 1 point
    In the latter days of her Alzheimers my mother would often ask me if she was losing her mind and I would patiently explain that no, she was just losing her memory and her ability to remember things happening now more than a few minutes. Fortunately she had the money to stay in the Lamborghini of memory units in Ft. Collins only 3 blocks from my youngest sister. She was not aware she was locked in and other than being bothered by her struggles with memory, fairly happy until she went into a coma at the end. And all of us were happy when she was finally released from that mental cage at age 87. It was hard to watch someone who had earned an accounting degree at age 20 from a very top notch eastern college, to a person who could not even remember she had an account that made her rich enough to afford the very best of care for several years. Hopefully there will be a cure some day. Since she had two siblings who also died of it at about the same time, I had myself tested and it was ruled out through a series of tests given by a neuropsychologist. I just have the usual screw loose is all. EDIT: We were very lucky that in earlier years she had told us all that if she ever needed to be in a nursing home then that is what she preferred. She let us know she was not going to be a burden on any of her children and that we were to spend her money to take care of her the best we knew how. We honored both of those decisions which were made well before the first overt signs of Alzheimers when she clearly knew what she wanted.
  45. 1 point
    You know nothing of what I've been through. My mother passed in '15. She had dementia for years. It was horrible visiting her in the nursing home. Horrible. But I did it anyway. And I was happy for HER when God finally called her away from such misery.
  46. 1 point
  47. 1 point
    We've tried the fire everybody approach how many times? So we should try it again? You have to start winning sometime, and against the Colts would be a good start. Will they? In the famous words of Chris Berman "that's why they play the game." Hue gets canned- Williams is taking over. Sorry about that Tom. If you're only counting wins and losses, this years edition of the Browns is no different than last years. Williams defense is an improvement over Hortons- YOU may not think so, but it's way different too. Finally, I'm getting up around three hours early to make the 110 mile drive to Indy- to watch what I hope will be the Browns first win of the year. I'm a happy camper in this regard- I got a 40 yard line Club Seat for 1\2 off. Hehehe. Now about the Colt's dime a dozen o-line, which was worth about 2 cents, and now their starting center is out on top of it. Should be another long day for Brissett.
  48. 1 point
  49. 1 point
    What was it: 5 turnovers against Baltimore? No defense can hardly stand up against that.
  50. 1 point
    Nice to have a President who doesn't mince his words. Rocket man best listen up.
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