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  1. 3 points
    I have several issues with Hue as the OC; 1) Why does it take so long to get the play to the huddle? 2) When the play finally makes it to the QB, they're already short on clock, but Hue has them sidestepping & square dancing before the snap. 3) Why does Hue give up on the running game so quickly? 4) When the Browns have the ball 1st & goal inside the 5, he always tries one of those cute little WR bubble screens (that NEVER work). My patience with Hue is wearing thin as it is, but he REALLY needs to hire an OC...cause basically he really sucks at it.
  2. 3 points
    I'll put it as simply as it gets. You invested over 100 million dollars long-term to make a team that should be able to run the ball. You have a rookie QB who needs to settle into the game. As such, running the ball 21 times is baffling to me. Further, not running the ball with nearly 13 minutes in the 4th quarter with your RB on the two yard line is inexcusable. Despite how god awful the game was going, we had an excellent chance to get within a TD just by running the fucking ball with someone who didn't leave with a migraine and Hue scoffed. Have to admit, the patience is beginning to wain based on coaches decision-making. I can't even get into how poorly he managed the last possession before half-time without clinching my fist.
  3. 2 points
    Well everyone, I wanted to humbly apologize for my behavior in the Ravens game thread, and that's not the fan I want to be now or ever. The entire game unfolded EXACTLY as I predicted the entire damn week, yet here I am like a petulant little child during the game spouting off like an immature brat. That's unacceptable and I'm sorry. Anybody that reads my posts know that I TRY to be optimistic and insightful, if not redundant and long-winded. Something happened during the game that just made me "snap", and it's no excuse, but that's what happened. All of the losing seasons, all of people making fun of me, all of the ridiculous losses and things you just can't make up...somehow came together and made me temporarily insane. I watch every game, every year, and have done so for quite some time now, despite living in Florida since I was 4. I've spent untold thousands flying to games, driving to others, and of course the money needed to purchase the damn Sunday Ticket and watching at bars. All week long I told anybody who would listen that the Ravens game would be an unmitigated disaster. I think I predicted 27-13 Ravens, with Kizer throwing 2 picks and fumbling once. I was pretty close. Yet despite knowing this information in my heart, I still went ballistic. Say what you will about Andy Dalton, but the guy has a shit load of wins in the NFL, and you don't get those by accident. Everyone saw what the Ravens did to HIM, so why in the world would it be ANY different with a rookie? I think what completely crushed me is despite all of the turnovers, WE ACTUALLY HAD A CHANCE THAT GAME. I mean, think about it. What happens if Kevin Hogan just takes the sack instead of throwing that absurd pick? Christ, the game is 14-7 going into half, right? When we made the decision to start a rookie QB with a history of not being so accurate, we HAD TO KNOW it would be like this, yet for some reason, that doesn't make it any easier. I'm not sure I have the required patience needed to make it through another season like this, and while it's only been two games against stiff competition, there are still things I need to see on a weekly basis. I need to see people catching the ball. I need to see touchdowns in the red zone. I MUST see better clock management and play-calling. I MUST see a team that doesn't turn it over ALL of the time. My biggest concern is that Kizer doesn't have what it takes. At this point, I consider him to be "our QB of the future", and I really think he can be the guy we've needed for 20 years. I remind myself that Peyton Manning had a hundred INT's his rookie year, and I remember he said he learned the most about football when he was down 30 points as a rookie. Kizer faced two VERY tough teams that are both 2-0, and he finally gets an easier match up this week. Of course, he won't have Corey Coleman who broke his hand again, but hey, what else is new? Even though it's only week 3, it's safe to say that Kizer needs a better game or things will start to come apart. Hue Jackson can only say "We'll learn from this" so many weeks in a row before shit turns ugly inside the locker room. I still believe in Kizer, and I fully believe he and our team will have a better performance come next weekend. In fact, I'm close to predicting a Browns victory, but I want to study the Colts a bit more. So in typical Jiggins fashion, I made a very long post with a very short message, and that's to say, "I'm sorry". Being a childish asshole isn't my style, and it won't happen again. We're going to look better this week against the Colts, and it wouldn't surprise me if the running game busted loose, and Kizer has the kind of day where he only throws about 18 times. My unofficial score is 17-13, Browns, with Kizer going 9-18 for 140 yards, with 1 pick and 1 TD.
  4. 2 points
    Meh... First, as I essentially wrote in another thread, where was a run game worth sticking with? Second, it's not like Hue is not simplifying the game for Kizer. He's cutting the field in half for him and reducing reads, but he has to push him some at the same time. What is the proper balance between teaching/developing a QB and winning? Especially when a team has no chance of making the playoffs to begin with... and we don't... never did in year two of a rebuild. I doubt Hue has asked Kizer to do anything in a game that he has not demonstrated he can do in the film room and on the practice field. What changes on Sunday is likely the level of talent he's asked to do it against. A lot of folks here wanted Kizer to play... said he couldn't learn on the bench. Well... he's playing and many of those same folks are crying because we're not winning. Make up your fuckin' minds people. Oh... and the delays, pre-snap penalties and such? Road game, people... crowd noise...
  5. 2 points
    You're grounded for a month. No internet, no phone, no car..
  6. 2 points
    , A couple thoughts on Kizer- first the migraine. My Doc pal and former boss get them. You're very sensitive to light. Did the Med Staff have that miracle migraine drug on hand? When Kizer came back in, he played like he still had one. Regarding his play I hope I'm wrong about "he is who I thought he was." If you remember I was very vocal that I thought he was a horrible pick. What concerned me then was on full display yesterday. BAD accuracy issues. How many of his passes were exactly on target? Damn few. Blew another sideline bomb that could have been a TD. Prone to make a big mistake at the worst time. The int in the end zone was a killer. Oh, he's got a great arm alright, won't do much good if it's inaccurate. Those delay of game penalties were maddening, you're thinking too much. All you have to do is look up, the play clock is right in front of you. Part of that falls on Hue. PS Ghoolie, the OL was giving Kizer a nice pocket to throw out of on plenty of occasions, yup- taking too long to get rid of the ball. Regressed from last week, looked befuddled many times.
  7. 2 points
    "Should win", sure. "Will win" is an entirely different story. Colts, bengals, jets fans are all looking at their schedule and they're saying "any reason we should not beat the browns?" Would love to see a 3 game winning streak of course, but I'm tempering my expectations.
  8. 2 points
    Those penalties had me screaming. Delay of games, false starts, illegal formations...goddamn it's the most frustrating thing in the world.
  9. 2 points
    Costly game 2. Browns lost Collins- concussion Kizer - migraine Coleman - hand Jiggins - game thread rant.
  10. 2 points
    Our team is improving. And yes our record will improve. Sorry it hasn't shone through yet while playing against two of our toughest opponents.
  11. 2 points
    Catching nothing. Is more like it
  12. 2 points
    It seems the talent might have improved. But the coaching and execution on the offense has not. They have done the same stupid play calling and the same stupid penalties since Hue got here
  13. 2 points
    I watched. Now I have a headache.
  14. 1 point
    https://qbspeak.com/2016/02/27/video-analysis-paxton-lynch-is-a-certified-bust/ https://www.milehighreport.com/2016/12/4/13836684/is-paxton-lynch-a-bust-some-already-say-yes https://forums.twobillsdrive.com/topic/195103-early-returns-paxton-lynch-heading-towards-being-a-bust/ http://sportsnaut.com/2017/08/paxton-lynch-undesirable-group-first-round-busts/ Glad we didn't draft him ! Say, btw, wasn't it DENVER that gave OSWEILER a one year contract? Go figure. I wonder who it was that kept bragging on Lynch...says he's always correct, and said Lynch was a superstar, going to be the best qb in the NFL.... nah. don't remember.....
  15. 1 point
    I think you're being too kind......... they are both cast, not forged.
  16. 1 point
    Yeah but they're GRINDERS, man! I love it, man! Spider 2, Y-banana, man!!!
  17. 1 point
    I was stunned when he didn't make the team. He's a *football player*. Just my goofy opinion, but it seems that running routes and getting open quickly like Leslie did, is a whole lot instinctive more than coaching. You can coach exploding out of breaks, if they have that athleticism but to a point, some wr's run exact routes, but there are tells that keep them from getting open. Some wr's have instincts to throw off a defender with subtle fakes and shifts that they always could do.
  18. 1 point
    Nah, the guy who had the hots for Unibrow on the other squad had to be low man on the roster.
  19. 1 point
    My sister once pushed me over a fence after her softball. I face planted just like Cory breaking my right arm..There Barb..I told on you again..50 years later & counting Worldwide Internet now baby sis
  20. 1 point
    I still think that we're only 2 games into the season with the youngest team in the nfl and the youngest QB. ...and it's a passing league. It's HARD to run in the nfl...so trying to run all the time will just result in a lot of punts.
  21. 1 point
    bs. you have a rookie qb, no star wr's, wr's not getting open very often in the last game, vs a defense that DOMINATED all preseason and their first regular season game. the ratbirds will probably beat the squealers by a larger margin than they beat the Browns. You heard it here, first. There are plenty of problems with player evals around the league. On this board, there was somebody who "knew" Paxton Lynch was a star, the best qb, etc etc etc etc etc.... there is no validity to all the screaming negative venting, after only two games, vs two strong division teams. It's bs.Just like the Paxton Lynch venting that we could have had HIM instead. Give it a rest already. https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/2000211-sports-and-racing-nfl/73649914 There is no way Paxton Lynch is not a bust http://sportsnaut.com/2017/08/paxton-lynchs-struggles-reflect-poorly-on-john-elway/
  22. 1 point
    Good!....he can catch better than the whole lot of em.......
  23. 1 point
  24. 1 point
    Its like Williams thinks its 1935 and is expecting quick kicks before fourth down. You draft Peppers because he's a versatile playmaker and relegate him to being the goalie for soccer game being played by 5 year olds.. I'm almost surprised not to see Peppers kicking his mitt and picking dandelions like his name is Timmy Lupus.
  25. 1 point
    Well he shit talks every Browns player so blind (fat) squirrel theory.
  26. 1 point
    You and tour are not allowed to be voices of reason here on chicken little farms. Von Miller will be naming chickens after some here if this keeps up.
  27. 1 point
    Can we please wait more than 2 games (against 2 of the top Ds we will face all year) before we begin CRUCIFYING the HC??? Rookie QB, OL that needs to gel, new D system, very young players etc, etc....TIME people...give them some TIME!!! Look at the ages of these players. They will learn & grow together, but it ain't gonna happen overnight. We are finally working toward the long term success of the Browns & I read all this bitching. It just makes no sense to me. Mike
  28. 1 point
    Regardless who the DC is, or who is playing LB or safety, the one constant besides losing for the Browns since '99 has been their inability to cover TEs.
  29. 1 point
    We all need to calm down and wait to see who Ghoolie chooses...He's never been wrong about anything....Ever
  30. 1 point
    Oh boy! Rising stock! Started last week in the College section.
  31. 1 point
    So now we have two first rounders forged in a china shop.
  32. 1 point
    I believe JT was in the high 80's PFF score week 1?..PFF scores tells JT nothing/nor me when he/we already know his competition..Suggs earned JT's attention year one in league.. Per JT, that has not changed..Coleman/Johnson..HA!! that's not even close to Conklin in anybodies opinion..Can't believe the amount of true browns fans that would even phat-hum the idea of Trading JT now..What other great HOF LT you trading For? What playoff team late pick is worth JT? Your now in Njoku & Peppers Talent level..Go ahead take another swing at the JT pinata..
  33. 1 point
    Same hand.....different bone.
  34. 1 point
  35. 1 point
    Kizer is soft. He will break very easily. Put in Hogan.
  36. 1 point
  37. 1 point
    Again....the only plausible reason is because the Browns are always playing from behind.
  38. 1 point
    Yup... seemed to short-arm that throw. I thought his intent was to go a level deeper into the D where the endzone replay seemed to show that there was another receiver who was single covered (Hope to see the all-22 to check this out). But in any case nothing in his other throws suggested that his field vision was anywhere near bad enough to throw that ball into a cluster of three Ravens. As for Hogan's release... slow? He takes it back lower and further than Kizer does (likely an arm-strength compensation), but there's no loop I can see. Path looks straight back. If he takes an extra tenth or two to release, it is more than made up for by his processing speed. Clearly his ball doesn't have Kizer's zip, but not all successful QBs do. QBs with limited gifts have to learn Quarterbacking if they are to be successful in college let alone the Pros. Whereas "gifted" QBs do not. Not sure how many times we've seen those that don't... Russell, Pryor, George... but there's long list. A gifted QB that does learn? Priceless... Hogan is ahead of Kizer in QBing right now, but the experiment has to continue. We have to see if Kizer's QB-switch flips...
  39. 1 point
    That's what I was wondering. If Kizer is so bad and will be so bad, then the Browns won't win very many games which puts us in line with a top 5 pick at worst and another 1st to use to move up if needed.
  40. 1 point
    I do not accept your apology. - I wasn't involved in the game thread so I missed all of your ranting...thus you don't owe me an apology -
  41. 1 point
    We're going to find out a lot about Kizer this weekend. Let's see how the kid responds after a terrible game and the migraine craziness. I have a feeling we're going to be happy.
  42. 1 point
    Like I said, Trubisky WAS the right pick. Instead we have Black Tarkenton and Toothpick legs Two Tackle Texas. MONEY BALL? MORON BALL.
  43. 1 point
    I agree and I'm sure Hue the OC would too but Hue the HC seems a bit lost. For obvious reasons he's loathe to give up the play calling but he's going to hang himself if he doesn't get some help, he's trying to do too much.
  44. 1 point
    Dwayne Bowe. 2.0
  45. 1 point
    He needs to RUN THE BALL. We have an expensive, veteran line and a rookie QB. But we run the Rbs 14 times and throw 42 passes with a rookie and a 2nd stringer/practice squad QB. That's HORRIBLE coaching.
  46. 1 point
    I don't think Kizer has any business starting NFL games at QB at this time. He can't get the plays off on time. He is going to get himself killed by holding onto the ball way too long, when he isn't throwing interceptions that either: 1) Wasn't close to his target, or 2) Late in the play, against his body, to the middle of the field. Front offices worth their salt put their players in a position to succeed. IMO, this isn't happening right now with Kizer. I'm not saying he's a bust already, not at all. I just didn't like the idea of Kizer starting so soon, and nothing I've seen has changed my mind.
  47. 1 point
    The Wentz trade has yielded a lot of players that are starting plus still got a 1st round pick to come out of it. I know we arent winning but the roster needed overhauling, that trade had to be done
  48. 1 point
    if it was actually a migraine he'd have had shades on during his post game interview and not returned to the game not even a wince during camera flashes. Got a Feeling Cody will be active next week
  49. 1 point
    Decent arm, that's where it ends
  50. 1 point
    Yoa,Yoa Mr. Admin..Just ordered that XL that I figure the wife will shrink my week 17 . Verified address # of 2544, but after payment confirmed it showed a delivery address of 2704? Please ship to 2544//..NOT 2704..Thanks & PM me if needed
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