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  2. I need to add, Art didn't willingly give back the name, history and colors. They were going to be the Baltimore Browns, until our lawyers hit him with the "specific performance clause" in the lease. He would have had to play in an empty stadium in Cleveland until the lease was up. That was the hammer that got it done. Regarding the new uniforms and all the losing. Times and fashions change. Or would you rather have something like the Seahawks dayglow uniforms? Sure, we underperformed this year. My pal sent me our past results, and we were maddeningly close to being a great team. A few plays here or there and the Browns could easily be 9-3 and the toast of the league. I haven't given up on Dorsey to eventually get us to where we want to be, and Haslam seems to have learned from his rookie owner mistakes. MHO based on the talent this team has? Freddie needs to go 3-1 the rest of the way out to save his job. One thing we can take away from this season is, it's not easy to win in the NFL. Just take a look at what happened to the Rams and Falcons after their Super Bowl appearances. PS- those rivalries will come back once we start winning consistently. If you have no hope of that ever happening, you may as well turn in your fan card and start rooting for the Patriots.
  3. Canton Dawg

    Great News For Lordstown!

    And without carbon dioxide there would be no life on the planet. Go ahead and try to make a circle out of that square.
  4. Hue got promoted 3x in a year?
  5. I disagree to this extent: Had Art not moved, and instead had sold the team, most likely to Al Lerner who got it anyway, the team would have still essentially ended up in the same condition as they have been. Al would have only owned the team for a short while before he died, and the "losing culture" that was brought to this team was primarily brought by Randy Lerner. Remember this: Al Lerner died in late October 2002. That was the fourth season into his ownership. And in only that 4th year the Browns made the playoffs, and seem to be on its way back to respectability. Then Al died. Had he bought the team from Modell in 1995/96, there still would have been only 6-7 years of ownership under AL. Randy inherited an NFL playoff franchise. But, his suckass style of management caused them to bite the dust for the next ten years of his ownership reign; and Jimmy Haslam's ownership/management style has been perhaps even worse. So, no. In my opinion the "winning culture" of the Browns of yesteryear would not have survived even if there were no "move". Continuity of ownership does not mean continuation of quality. Case in point: the Bengals. Same ownership family.....same losing culture (though there we several playoff years under Marvin Lewis) And mere change in ownership does not mean retention of a winning culture....Case in point there: Jack Kent Cooke owned the Redskins....winning culture. He dies, team sold to Dan Snyder: losing culture. Maybe the "What If" look back should/could be this: recall that when the Browns franchise was held in trust, the NFL set up a bidding process. Lerner won, but, There were several others besides Lerner who bid on the Browns: Dick Jacobs The Dolans Howard Milstein Bart Wolstein Thomas Murdough A group headed by Don Shula ...though I think that was in conjunction with one of the people already mentioned. Jeremy Jacobs...no relation to Dick......who was the owner of the Boston Bruins. What would have happened if one of these groups had outbid Lerner and got the team? (In some cases, like with Dick Jacobs and Wolstein the primary owner would also have died)
  6. everyone was writing off matt nagy and now look....that fat fuck that we have needs to get out of dodge right now...
  7. he is a big bloated fat fuck alright....how the fuck does someone like that get promoted 3x in what , less than a yr....or a little more than a yr....not sure but steven a smith knows....and he is right....
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  9. The Gipper

    Week 14 NFL TV Maps

    Here is a highly plausible conspiracy theory: The SEC will manipulate it to have LSU be beaten by Georgia. That way, both team likely would be selected for the College football playoffs. LSU is considered almost a lock even if they lose to Ga....whereas Georgia would be out of the picture if they get beat by LSU. (that would give the SEC 2 teams, and leave the OK/Baylor winner on the sidelines) With the highly questionable ethics of the SEC would you put it past them?
  10. Here is a highly plausible conspiracy theory: The SEC will manipulate it to have LSU be beaten by Georgia. That way, both team likely would be selected for the College football playoffs. LSU is considered almost a lock even if they lose to Ga....whereas Georgia would be out of the picture if they get beat by LSU. (that would give the SEC 2 teams, and leave the OK/Baylor winner on the sidelines) With the highly questionable ethics of the SEC would you put it past them?
  11. dusty

    Week 14 NFL TV Maps

    Here is what's happening today. Closest big game is LSU / Georgia. If LSU wins I could see them taking 1st in the rankings. Ohio State would be 2, Clemson 3, and Oklahoma 4. Georgia wins then Ohio State 1, Clemson 2, Georgia 3, LSU 4. Thoughts?
  12. Westside Steve

    Great News For Lordstown!

    Not sure that a lack of any particular element would be considered poisonous. Probably definitely would be a better word? WSS
  13. tiamat63

    We are still very much in the wildcard race

    By "not in lockstep" you mean a dumbass? Spot on, my guy. edit: Honest question - should I bother to take seriously or even engage in dialogue with anyone who doubles down on something as Retarded as "Myles doesn't make a difference"...? Not only is it just that dumb, but it's an incredibly lazy argument with literally nothing to back it up. So again, why should I even bother? I mean, Who has that kind of time or care?
  14. calfoxwc

    Dems

    is the entire democratic bigwig assembly involved in global corruption? that would explain a lot. I don't see how any honest American can vote for any of them in 2020.
  15. calfoxwc

    Great News For Lordstown!

    a lack of any gas at all is poisonous gas then? that kills....
  16. it's a nothingburger. "it's a business" he doesn't know. If he says "I never want to leave the Browns" the question will be "does he care about winning?" or something. Just more dumb journalist questions, mary kay cabbage and tony rizzo style.
  17. Outstanding explanation of the sequence of events! Except for one little thing. Toward the end he mentioned that we got our team name and colors back, the history, the institution, and "that is all that matters". Not really. What we didn't get back was a winning culture. That went to Baltimore and never came back. The rivalry we once had with Pitt is in Baltimore, and has never came back. That is the reason for which I hate Modell even more. Sure we sucked most of the 90's, but the spirit of a winning culture was still there. We had just come off a fabulous run the decade prior. Never were there rumblings about the lack of a winning culture in the 90's. We were proud to be Browns fans, and a player felt proud to be a Cleveland Brown. I'm not sure that feeling exists among those 53 in the locker room today. The feeling that this team is "a blurred copy" or a bad imitation of the original has never escaped me. ….and those goddamned ugly all turd colored uniforms makes it feel even more so a bad imitation.
  18. As for Luke Fickell, Yep, he has a bright future ahead. Am sure Day would like him out of Ohio & away from Day's future recruits.. I hit the sack somewhere in 4th after a Oregon big run for a score..Ended up 37-15 Oregon..Holy Hell, I would love to watch Chase Young against that Oregon LT👀..But, Chase & Bucks has larger bowl plans than Rose Bowl.. Oregon's LT is Penel Sewell from Samoa..He's only a Sophomore (can't help Browns now) Not given up a sack at LT in college..Won tons of awards as a 4 star..6'6 325 & those Nike Oregon Jersey must eat 15 lbs of weight cause I don't see 325. He's built like a Tank. Kid has great feet but the Samoan may not get a great NFL grade because of strong ass stubby short* Arms..Saw some Road/grading Mauler in him too..Should have 1 heck of a Junior season
  19. From my end it looks good. I usually don't have a problem except when I copy and paste from this website. If it looks bad let me know and I will just link the story.
  20. You might want to check your formatting. WSS
  21. Westside Steve

    Great News For Lordstown!

    Ya gotta die from something. 😉 WSS
  22. I hope the above article I copied and pasted is OK . I have had trouble before copying and pasting from this website.....it looks good from my end here I can't fault those who are ignorant of history like this NFL player and his Che Guevara cleats. Most have never been presented the truth about Castro and Che Guevera either in school or by the media or by Hollywood.
  23. jbluhm86

    Great News For Lordstown!

    Acute dihydrogen monoxide poisoning can kill.
  24. Listen to Have Yourself a Merry Little Christmas by Westside Steve Simmons on #SoundCloud https://soundcloud.com/westside-steve-simmons/have-yiurself-a-merry-little-christmas
  25. “This week, the Seahawks are proudly showing off their game shoes for the NFL’s annual Week 14 My Cause My Cleats initiative. Players across the league will be wearing special shoes customized to causes and charities of their choices during games," The News Tribune reported. "(Defensive end) Quinton Jefferson’s have Malcolm X, Rosa Parks, Che Guevara and other revolutionaries stenciled into the side of his—drawn by King County teenagers rehabilitating from incarceration." "It’s pretty cool that they were in touch with freedom fighters," Jefferson said. "So it was pretty dope.” (I’m guessing the term “dope!” has morphed from its traditional meaning. But the traditional meaning fits ideally here.) It was off-field, during a press conference denouncing the jailing of blacks, that black activist-quarterback Colin Kaepernick wore his t-shirt honoring the jailer and torturer of the longest-suffering black political prisoners in the Western Hemisphere. will be on the field this Sunday that black activist-defensive-end Quinton Jefferson will honor Fidel Castro’s Stalinist sidekick who regarded blacks as “lazy, drunken and averse to baths.” So it’s a toss-up, as to who wins this play-off. In fact, Jefferson comes across as a decent family man with good intentions. He simply seems—like the kids and administrators in the “rehabilitation program”—a victim of modern public education/indoctrination. “The negro is indolent and lazy, and spends his money on frivolities and drink.” This comes straight from Che Guevara’s diaries, better known subsequently as The Motorcycle Diaries. But for some reason Robert Redford saw fit to omit this charming observation from his charming movie on the young Ernesto Guevara. In fact, many Cuban blacks suffered longer incarceration in Castro and Che’s dungeons and torture chambers than Nelson Mandela suffered in South Africa's (relatively) comfortable prisons. In fact, these Cubans qualify as the longest-suffering political prisoners in modern history. Eusebio Penalver, Ignacio Cuesta Valle, Antonio Lopez Munoz, Ricardo Valdes Cancio, and many other Cuban blacks suffered almost 30 years in Castro's prisons. These men (and many women too, by the way, black and white) suffered their tortures 90 miles from U.S. shores. But you’ve never heard of them, right? And yet from CNN to NBC, from Reuters to the AP, from ABC to NPR, Castro’s Stalinist-Apartheid fiefdom hosts an abundance of U.S. and international press bureaus and crawls with their intrepid “investigative reporters.” On the other hand, you can’t swing a dead cat in the media without hitting the name Nelson Mandela. Interesting how that works. “Reporters in Havana are either insensitive to the pain of the opposition or in clear complicity with the government.” (Black Cuban torture-victim Jorge Antunez in the Miami Herald.) During a press conference shortly upon Castro and Che’s entry into Havana in 1959 Luis Pons, a prominent black Cuban businessman asked Che Guevara what his revolution planned on doing to help blacks. Che answered: “We’re going to do for blacks exactly what blacks did for our revolution. By which I mean: nothing!” Che was much too modest. "Nothing" is not exactly accurate for the Castro regime’s treatment of Cuba's blacks. In fact, these lily-white icons (Che and Fidel) of American black “leaders” and celebrities forcibly overthrew a Cuban government where blacks served as President of the Senate, Minister of Agriculture, Chief of Army, and Head of State (Fulgencio Batista), a grandson of slaves who was born in a palm-roofed shack. Not that you'd guess any of this from the liberals' exclusive educational source on pre-Castro Cuba: Godfather II. "The Cuban government tries to fool the world with siren songs depicting racial equality in our country,” explains Cuban black dissident Bertha Antunez. “But it is all a farce, as I and my family can attest, having suffered from the systematic racism directed at us by Castro's regime. Cuban blacks suffer the scourge of racial hatred every day. The beatings by the police are always accompanied by racial epithets. They set dogs on us. The only thing we have to thank the Cuban revolution for, is for restoring the yoke of slavery that our ancestors lived under." In fact, most of the dissidents against the Castro regime (co-founded by the racist/Stalinist honored on Quinton Jefferson’s shoes) are black and have named their group after Rosa Parks (also honored on Quinton Jefferson’s shoes.) If only SNL were still funny they could have a ball with skits on such thundering ironies. “It is simply a sociological fact,” casually remarked an official of the Castro regime (whose co-founder is honored on Quinton Jefferson’s cleats) to a visiting American scholar a few years ago, “that blacks are more violent and criminal than whites. They also do not work as hard and cannot be trusted.” “N**ger!” taunted my jailers between tortures,” recalled the world’s longest suffering black political prisoner* to this writer. “'We pulled you down from the trees and cut off your tail!' laughed my Castroite torturers. For months I was naked in a 6 x 4 foot cell. That’s four feet high, so you couldn’t stand. But I felt a great freedom inside myself. I refused to commit spiritual suicide.” (*Eusebio Peñalver, a black Cuban jailed and tortured by the Castro regime longer –and much more horribly–than Mandela was by South Africa’s–yet utterly unknown to Americans thanks to the U.S. media/Castroite collusion.) https://townhall.com/columnists/humbertofontova/2019/12/07/move-over-colin-kaepernickthis-nfl-star-wears-che-guevara-cleats-n2557608 https://townhall.com/columnists/humbertofontova/2019/12/07/move-over-colin-kaepernickthis-nfl-star-wears-che-guevara-cleats-n2557608
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