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Here is a list of NFL Quarterbacks that are Ohio natives. Some of these has stellar careers, some not so much. These all had at least 2 years in the league. I left off anyone that only had one year or less. I list them alphabetically.  Which ones do you think were the best and the worst?:

 

Art Schlichter, Washington Court House

Help me out with any names I may have missed. Some of what I found went by birthplace. A guy could have been born here and left at a very young age (like Jim Harbaugh).  Others that may have been born elsewhere may have moved here and spent their high school years in Ohio. Know of any?

Appropriate. You mean Art "spends a lot of time in a Courthouse" Schlichter?  What a tragic waste of a life and talent.

From Wiki

Over the years, Schlichter has, by his own count, committed more than 20 felonies. He gambled away much of his NFL, Arena League and radio salaries. Whenever he ran low on money to support his gambling, he stole and conned it from friends and strangers, and frequently passed bad checks. In a 2007 interview for ESPN's Outside the Lines, he estimated that he'd stolen $1.5 million over the years, if not more.

The habit eventually cost him his marriage; his wife left him in 1994 after FBI agents raided their home in Las Vegas in search of money he'd stolen. According to her, Schlichter gambled it away.

Between 1995 and 2006, he served the equivalent of 10 years in 44 various prisons and jails across the Midwest. His various legal problems, including fraud cases and forgery, among others, were often well-publicized. For example, he was so consumed by his habit that he had his public defender smuggle a cell phone into prison so he could place bets.

He later said that he hit rock bottom in 2004, after he was caught gambling in prison. He was placed in solitary confinement for four months.

He was released from prison on June 16, 2006 and resided with his mother. By one estimate, he owes half a million dollars in restitution.

Schlichter founded a non-profit organization, Gambling Prevention Awareness, to educate others about the perils of compulsive gambling, including college and NFL players. He told ESPN that he started gambling because the pressure of being Ohio State's starting quarterback was too much on him, and he wanted to be just a regular guy.

In 2007, Schlichter was listed as the #7 all-time draft bust on the NFL Network's Draft Busts episode. In an updated list aired on April 16, 2010, Schlichter was moved to the #4 draft bust of all time, and in a video listing the top 10 quarterback draft busts of all time, Schlichter was listed #3, behind #2 JaMarcus Russell and #1 Ryan Leaf.

On February 9, 2011, reports emerged that Schlichter was under investigation for fraud. Schlichter was charged with a first-degree felony in connection with the theft of more than $1 million on February 14, 2010.

On September 15, 2011 Schlichter was sentenced to 10 years in state prison for his involvement in a million-dollar ticket scam. While under house arrest awaiting assignment to a state prison, Schlichter tested positive for cocaine while serving a house arrest sentence on federal charges resulting from the same case (and while still on probation from his Indiana sentence) on January 19, 2012.

As a result of the positive drug test, Schlicter was sentenced to 10 years, 7 months in federal prison (up from an original 8 years, 4 months sentence originally agreed to on the fraud case) to be served concurrently with the Ohio sentence, plus $2.2 million in restitution; the Indiana probation was canceled with the federal sentence.

ESPN IS getting worse lately in it East Coast bias.  The Knicks were knocked out what? Friday night.  Sunday morning when I wake up...all ESPN radio is talking about is the Knicks....and this morning....all they talked about is the Knicks.

I mean,  there were these other teams still playing:  Miami/Indy/San Antonio/Memphis   Do you think maybe they could spend a little time talking about the teams still in it? Hell no.  My son's roomate is a Red Sox fan. He was talking about the Boston/New York rivalry....but when I said to him "Boston, New York, it is all one and the same, he looked at me like I was polka dotted or something...so I said "yea...to everyone else one of the teams from those cities winning is no different than another. We would only care as long as they both lose.".

Yup, it's getting worse allright. It's not East Coast bias- call it "Big Market, & Frontrunner Bias". Kobe blows out his knee, ESPN acts like the world just ended. Westbrook getting injured DURING THE PLAYOFFS, WHEN IT ACTUALLY MATTERED gets about 1\100 the coverage. You'd have thought it was the Lakers God ordained right to make the playoffs every year.

Frontrunner mentality- holy smokes, the damn INDIANS get a nice ESPN blowjob on the 6:30 Sportscenter.

 

I love my city. There is something special about our little community. We are all bound together by our misery. It is no secret that Cleveland is nationally viewed as a dying city, trying desperately to rebound. There are hundreds if not thousands of people here that do their best to promote programs to invigorate the town. The Greater Cleveland Sports Commission is one that comes to mind. But if there is one thing that all born and raised Clevelanders share, its our passion for our local sports teams. No matter where we may live, we represent our teams, perhaps even more loudly if you don’t live here.

That’s one of the many things I love most about Cleveland and its residents, yet it is also one of the things that bothers me the most about them as well. Now before jumping all over me, hear me out.

What I can’t understand is the lengths people go in this town to put the Browns on such an extreme pedestal when you compare them with the city’s longest standing Major League franchise, the Indians.

When the Indians go through a bad stretch, the casual fans turn them off and act as uf they don’t exist. Yet a 2-9 Browns team would still get everyone’s full attention.

You can tell me all you want about the disconnect between the Dolan Family Ownership, the front office, and you as a fan. I’m sure you feel as though they have cheated you since buying the team from Dick Jacobs in 2000. Full disclosure, I have not been their biggest supportes either. It is not as if the product on the field has been that spectacular. But consider the 2005 Indians won 93 games and missed the playoffs thanks to a final week Cleveland-esque collapse. 93 wins at the time were the most for any team in the Wild Card era without advancing to play October baseball. In 2007, they ran away with the division and were up 3-1 in the ALCS, one win away from the World Series. I went to 40-plus games that season and in a pennant race in September, the crowds were in the 20,000′s.

 

So the Browns and GM Mike Lombardi, who was said to be high on him, scooped Hoyer up yesterday and added Hoyer to their QB stable.

Yet here we are in Cleveland, talking obsessively about a third string QB signing, dissecting it like it will make any bit of difference, and making it the lead story in town.

I know, I know, this is “Browns Town.” But you know what, it shouldn’t even be more than a blip on the radar because there is a REAL story going on right now, and it is going way too unnoticed for my taste. THE INDIANS ARE IN FIRST PLACE!

 

Is priority right now. They deserve your attention. The signing of a third-string Quarterback in mid-May, doesn’t.

 

OK, I understand what you're saying- BUT. Just because you happen to live in Cleveland (or did) doesn't mean you have to be a baseball fan. For me personally, (for reasons I'll get into)- I'd as soon as watch icicles melt than take in an entire game on the tube. Yeah- I caught an inning or two of the Tigers- Rangers game tonight (my wife is a Tigers fan, at least I was able to convert her from the Lions to Browns)- but I'd as soon as catch some of the Italian Open, or some of the Stanley Cup Playoffs- or the NBA Playoffs.

1) so there's reason #1- there's more action in hockey or basketball (or even soccer) in 5 minutes than there is in an entire baseball game.

2) Baseball has the most f**ked up salary structure of any major sport. You level the playing field, maybe I'd take more interest. Sooner or later, the Yankees and their ilk buy up all the top talent. I felt like puking when the two opposing pitchers in the World Series USED to play for the Indians- you want to make an argument how that isn't screwed up be my guest. No you can't buy a Championship every year- but you sure as hell can buy a competitive team. IIRC, the Yankees haven't had a losing season since 1992.

3) Alluding to the above- the Tribe, and other small market teams have been the feeder system of top talent to the Big Boys in like about forever- and that's not going to change anytime soon.

4) Do you really need a 162 game season? (Other than to pay those inflated salaries?) Yeah, lets play baseball in Denver in April in a snowstorm, or the World Series in October when its 35 degrees. One game in a 16 game NFL season has meaning, on a baseball game, not so much.

4) Well, there's no real explanation of why Cleveland is a football town- unless you want to go all the way back to Canton- Pro football was born in NE Ohio. My personal slant is back in the 60's the Browns were pretty great, and the Indians reliably stunk- every year. It's only May- wake me up in August when the games actually start meaning something. I've lived through the Indians "June Swoon" & "July Dive". The Rocky Colavito for Harvey Kuenn trade- that about did me in right there, (read Belichick dumping Kosar if you want a comparison), and an unabated history since of "we can't afford you anymore, tata!!!" Incidentally, there's a boatload of Browns fans in Dayton who have  have never lived in Cleveland. I've yet to meet an Indians fan here- period. SW Ohio is Reds Country- for the same reason Cleveland is Browns Town. 

So sorry- to be a "true" fan of the Tribe, you have to be a baseball fan first. Just hope you won't have to be like the Wrigley Bleacher Bums and wait like forever for them to win a World Series.  Oh, they keep on winning- the frontrunner bandwagon bus will pick up supporters for sure.

 

No it doesn't.  It says Ward could eventually become the best SS in the division and I've read in one of those analyst live chats he means when Polamalu retires and that Haden should become the top corner in the division and currently I don't see anyone arguing that point.  He's easily top 4 in the division and probably the best right now.  I also agree with Couch on Hensley, I don't like him at all.  Hell I don't like most of what ESPN has to say on anything.  They've got the name recognition so people default to them but for the most part ESPN just annoys me.  I never watch ESPN during the draft because I much prefer Mayock on NFL network for example and those side by side comparisons can carry on all day.  ESPN kind of sucks.

Yeah- that's partly the reason I've soured on ESPN. They've totally morphed into a frontrunner suckup network. I'll give you this (approximate) sound bite from Colin Cowturd as exhibit "A". "Why do you people keep telling me you're tired of hearing about Le Bron & the Heat? Never heard that about Jordan & the Bulls."  Well Colin, because back then you actually heard balanced reporting about the other teams in the playoffs. Now it's all Heat, all the time. Every f**king thing wrong with Wade, and not a peep on how Westbrook's doing. I've heard damn little about the Spurs and Thunder, and jack shit about the Pacers. So just keep sucking on those boys from South Beach. I'm going to have to find another sports network before I start puking listening to your crap.

I have been wondering how those two, Anthony and Arias seem to get all this attention when there are hundreds or thousands of other murder trials that go on in this country.  I can only attribute it to one thing:  they were both "hot white chicks".

Can there be any other reason?

Sure are Gip. Arias may be nymphomaniac hot- but she's not that attractive- and that's not just my opinion either. Interesting the defense tried to make her as UN-attractive as possible during the trial, fake glasses, dye hair from blonde to brunette. Interesting. Personally, her defense attorney is far more attractive.

Those two-  (as well as the Anna Nicole & Scott Peterson trials) are the same reason all the tabloids are in business. The more lurid the details, the better for national TV rankings. Apparently, there's a pretty significant percentage of the population that sucks this sort of stuff up. Anthony allegedly kills her kid, buries her in the backyard. Arias tops that one in spades.

What I don't understand is why the Arias trial dragged on for 4 months- when the prosecution had a slam dunk case. You need to testify for 12 days? I could tell my entire life story with everything I remember in less time. "I wasn't there." "Well, I was there, but two guys broke in and killed him." "I killed him but it was self defense."  Sure it was self defense, stabbing the guy in the back in the shower, stabbing him 20+ more times, cutting his throat, and then shooting him in the head to top it off. Self defense is sufficient force to repel the attack, not butcher your attacker because he pissed you off. Most people who claim "self defense" don't take a powder from the crime scene either, IIRC. Funny how grandpa's gun went missing, you needed a rental car to drive to Arizona, shut off your cell phone on the drive over, and the gun and knife magically disappear in the desert- because your mind went blank. Normally, I'm pro death penalty, but the death penalty is too good for her- unless you want to have a good old-fashioned Wild West Hanging on the town square. HGN could make millions putting that on pay-per-view.