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#1 Solon16

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Posted 07 October 2009 - 04:00 PM

Looking back at 99 draft ...this will be a series....

We drafted 11 guys in 99....not one is even in the league.

Notable first round misses.......still in league....Donovan Mcnabb, Ricky williams , Edgerin James, tory holt, champ bailey, chris Mcallister...etc etc...in round one patrick kearney, jevon kearse, antoine winfield,al wilson....blah

notable second rounders still in league......Dre Bly,jon hansen,mike petersen,mike rucker(just retired this year)Jimmy Kleinssaser....etc etc alot more

third rounders still in league....Chike Okefor, Marty Booker, Joey Porter, jon thornton, kevin Faulk, etc etc

4th Brandon Stokely, rosevelt colvin, aaron smith etc etc

5th kelly gregg, (Eric Barton, David Bowens) lol

6th desmond clark

7th donald driver..............there are a ton of guys still playing from this draft class that I did not mention...alot!!! none of our guys are even in the league. now the year 2000 next...



OUR PICKS: TC, KJ, Daylon McCutcheon, Rahim abdullah, marquis smith, waLI RAINER, DAREN CHIAVERINI, MARCUS SPRIGGS, kENDALL OGLE, jAMES DEARTH, MADRE HILL
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Posted 07 October 2009 - 04:14 PM

QUOTE (Solon16 @ Oct 7 2009, 05:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Looking back at 99 draft ...this will be a series....

We drafted 11 guys in 99....not one is even in the league.

Notable first round misses.......still in league....Donovan Mcnabb, Ricky williams , Edgerin James, tory holt, champ bailey, chris Mcallister...etc etc...in round one patrick kearney, jevon kearse, antoine winfield,al wilson....blah

notable second rounders still in league......Dre Bly,jon hansen,mike petersen,mike rucker(just retired this year)Jimmy Kleinssaser....etc etc alot more

third rounders still in league....Chike Okefor, Marty Booker, Joey Porter, jon thornton, kevin Faulk, etc etc

4th Brandon Stokely, rosevelt colvin, aaron smith etc etc

5th kelly gregg, (Eric Barton, David Bowens) lol

6th desmond clark

7th donald driver..............there are a ton of guys still playing from this draft class that I did not mention...alot!!! none of our guys are even in the league. now the year 2000 next...



OUR PICKS: TC, KJ, Daylon McCutcheon, Rahim abdullah, marquis smith, waLI RAINER, DAREN CHIAVERINI, MARCUS SPRIGGS, kENDALL OGLE, jAMES DEARTH, MADRE HILL



Madre Hill was to be our diamond in the rough next great RB. And What about the next coming of Brian Brennen Mr. Chiaverini. Great draft.


These guys don't even have to pay me to run one of their drafts and I could do a whole hell of a lot better than what we've had the past decade. Maybe I can contact Lerner and save him some jack. (hopefully Mangini bucks the trend)
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Posted 07 October 2009 - 04:28 PM

2000 13 GUYS DRAFTED... ONLY NORTHCUTT STILL IN LEAGUE....caveat lewis sanders is somewhere...

Notable first round misses(as in we missed)and still in league...Chris samuels, Jamal lewis*, thomas jones, Plax, Urlacher, John Abraham, Julian petersen...etc etc

second rd....Mark simeneau, john st. clair*, Damian mcintosh, nate webster....etc

third rd....misses....marvel smith, chad clifton, mike brown, ian gold, adrian klemm etc etc

4th terrelle smith, alvin Mckinley* , cooper carlisle, etc

5th....Clark haggins, Shane lechler, Kabila Gbaja-biamila ,Dante hall....

6th and seventh.....Tom Brady, marc bulger, Dhani Jones, Adalius Thomas, Robaire smith*


Our picks..........

Courtney brown, Dennis northcutt, travis prentice, jajaun dawson, Lewis Sanders, aaron shea, anthony marlborough, lamar champan, eric chandler, rashidi barnes, brad bedell, spergeon wynn manuia sevea


JESUS CHRISTO>>>>>>ONLY NORTHDRP and Lewis Sanders are still in the League... Lewis sanders did a couple stints with us but look at all the misses we had that made there way to us eventually....redonkulous
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Posted 07 October 2009 - 04:36 PM

we can talk about butch davis and savage(and I will) but missing on 22 of 24 players from these two draft classes are why we SUCK!
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Posted 07 October 2009 - 05:10 PM

2001....just sick: 8 players drafted ONLY Gerard warren(1st) and anthony henry(4th) still in league

notable 1st rounders missed (vomit) LT, richard seymour, ....fk just too many to list

round 2....missed Kyle Vanden Bosch, Ochostinko, Ken lucas, Kris Jenkins, fred smoot, Matt light, Chris chambers, Gary Baxter*, Shaun Rogers*,
round three....Mike Gandy, steve smith(wr), Kareem Mckenzie casey rabach, Jonas Jennings....

4th Rudi Johnson, Matt stewart*, correll Buckhalter, Ed Hartwell Floyd Womack*

5th Aj feeley, matt lehr(not much)

6th Cedrick wilson...not much

7th TJ houshmandzadeh

Our picks: Gerard Warren, Quincy Morgan, James Jackson, Anthony Henry, Jeremiah Pharms, Paul Zukaskas and andre(i'll tell) king

as of 2001....we missed on 28 of 32 picks....
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Posted 07 October 2009 - 05:25 PM

2002....8 guys drafted Only Andre davis, Andra davis maybe...... kevin bentley and melvin fowler.... in league still(i know one of these guys are on the street) Missed....1st round ed reed, charles grant lito shepherd, marc columbo...etc etc etc

second... sheldon brown, clinton portis, antonio bryant*

third....brian westbrook, akin ayodele 4th...David thorton, jarvis green, dave zastudil* 5th......Rocky benard, aaron Kampman, scott fujita, robert royal*, Kenyon coleman* (getting rediculous) 6th....CHESTER TAYLOR, justin hartwig, jeb putzer, adrian petersen(bears0 7th...Brett keisel, kevin schaffer* vomit

our picks Willy green, Andre Davis, Melvin Fowler, Kevin Bentley, Ben taylor, Darnell Sanders, Andra Davis, joaquin Gonzales
That's 34 of 40 out of league.... of the 6 in the league...none are with the Browns!
So Again to reinterate ZERO OUT OF 40 STILL WITH THE BROWNS
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Posted 07 October 2009 - 05:30 PM

Stop! Please.....STOP! I'm getting sick..... wacko.gif
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Posted 07 October 2009 - 06:31 PM

No no, keep going. We need to see the carnage. You were saying.........
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Posted 07 October 2009 - 06:35 PM

QUOTE (Solon16 @ Oct 7 2009, 05:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Looking back at 99 draft ...this will be a series....

We drafted 11 guys in 99....not one is even in the league.

Notable first round misses.......still in league....Donovan Mcnabb, Ricky williams , Edgerin James, tory holt, champ bailey, chris Mcallister...etc etc...in round one patrick kearney, jevon kearse, antoine winfield,al wilson....blah

notable second rounders still in league......Dre Bly,jon hansen,mike petersen,mike rucker(just retired this year)Jimmy Kleinssaser....etc etc alot more

third rounders still in league....Chike Okefor, Marty Booker, Joey Porter, jon thornton, kevin Faulk, etc etc

4th Brandon Stokely, rosevelt colvin, aaron smith etc etc

5th kelly gregg, (Eric Barton, David Bowens) lol

6th desmond clark

7th donald driver..............there are a ton of guys still playing from this draft class that I did not mention...alot!!! none of our guys are even in the league. now the year 2000 next...



OUR PICKS: TC, KJ, Daylon McCutcheon, Rahim abdullah, marquis smith, waLI RAINER, DAREN CHIAVERINI, MARCUS SPRIGGS, kENDALL OGLE, jAMES DEARTH, MADRE HILL


Wouldn't it be easier and less painful to just allow someone to beat you over the shins 10 times with 1/2 inch hydraulic hose?

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Posted 07 October 2009 - 07:14 PM

It would be easier just to name the players that are still on our team
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Posted 07 October 2009 - 09:02 PM

2003 7 players drafted.... Ryan Pontbriand only player on our team. one other starts for NO (faine) 3 others spot duty Chris Crocker,Chaun Thompson michael lehan.....(maybe... don't know if lehan still in league) lee suggs and antonio Garay out of league...
in order...:jeff faine, Chaun Thompson, Chris Crocker, Lee Suggs, Ryan Pontbriand, Michael lehan and antonio Garay

1st round misses (not really relevant) because faine starts...but Nnamdi Asomugha, larry johnson, willis McGahee, eric Steinbach*
2nd round misses (this hurts...) Anquan Bolden, Osi Umenyura, gerald hayes, derrick dockery, lj smith, cory redding.
3rd....visanthe shiancoe, justin fargas, Bradie james...
4th .... Asante samual, brandon llyod
5th justin Gage, Dan Koppen, Donald lee, sean mahan, tony pashos
6th cato june, arnaz battle(not much)
7th Tully bunta - cain, Kevin Walter and ethan kelley*

SO 1 GUY OUT OF 47 STILL WITH BROWNS...THE LONG SNAPPER!!! Faine,crocker,pont,and lehan (maybe) still in league....

36 guys we drafted out of the league out of 47 picks......of the 11 still playing only the Long snapper remains on our team....LOL and everyone cried when we took him...ha ha ha. (this is fkn hard work)
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Posted 07 October 2009 - 09:05 PM

QUOTE (Solon16 @ Oct 7 2009, 04:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
2000 13 GUYS DRAFTED... ONLY NORTHCUTT STILL IN LEAGUE....caveat lewis sanders is somewhere...

Notable first round misses(as in we missed)and still in league...Chris samuels, Jamal lewis*, thomas jones, Plax, Urlacher, John Abraham, Julian petersen...etc etc

second rd....Mark simeneau, john st. clair*, Damian mcintosh, nate webster....etc

third rd....misses....marvel smith, chad clifton, mike brown, ian gold, adrian klemm etc etc

4th terrelle smith, alvin Mckinley* , cooper carlisle, etc

5th....Clark haggins, Shane lechler, Kabila Gbaja-biamila ,Dante hall....

6th and seventh.....Tom Brady, marc bulger, Dhani Jones, Adalius Thomas, Robaire smith*


Our picks..........

Courtney brown, Dennis northcutt, travis prentice, jajaun dawson, Lewis Sanders, aaron shea, anthony marlborough, lamar champan, eric chandler, rashidi barnes, brad bedell, spergeon wynn manuia sevea


JESUS CHRISTO>>>>>>ONLY NORTHDRP and Lewis Sanders are still in the League... Lewis sanders did a couple stints with us but look at all the misses we had that made there way to us eventually....redonkulous


Can you really count Plax as still being in the league?
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Posted 07 October 2009 - 09:16 PM

2004.....6 players drafted.....Kellen Winslow(traded2nd), sean jones (moved up to 2nd and gave up 3rd and swapped fifthpicks)3rd nada, 4th Luke McCown 5th Amon Gordon 6th Kirk Chambers 7th Adima---echemandu(JOE)

NONE WITH TEAM......Luke McCown,sean jones backups...Winslow only starter with other team....other 3 out of league.

39 guys out of 53 Drafted NOT IN NFL , 14 players still in league only 1 still on the Browns.
1st round misses (again not really relevent winslow starts but...Ben Rothlisberger, tommie harris, lee evans, vince wilfork
2nd round...Jake Grove, Chris snee, Justin Smiley, Antwan odom, devery hendersen
3rd (all) Darnell docket Max Starks, Bernard Berrian
4th....jericho Cotchery, Jared Allen
5th... DJ Hackett...Errik Coleman
6th...(GET THIS) Corey Williams, Rex Hadnot
7th...Patrick Crayton, Derrick Ward

1 out of 53 guys we drafted still with team angry.gif
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Posted 07 October 2009 - 09:30 PM

keep going hoe!
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Posted 07 October 2009 - 09:55 PM

This is somehow humorous biggrin.gif
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Posted 07 October 2009 - 11:08 PM

2005...7 players drafted.....ONE STILL WITH TEAM....THAT MAKES 2 OUT OF 60 PLAYERS DRAFTED STILL WITH THE BROWNS....4 MORE OUT OF FOOTBALL...... AND FRYE NEARLY OUT........ 43 OF OUR DRAFT PICKS IN THE LAST/First 60 ARE OUT OF THE NFL!OF THE 17 IN THE NFL ONLY 2 PLAY FOR THE BROWNS. (Pontbriand and Pool) 17 of our 60 draft picks are in the nfl ph34r.gif


Braylon Edwards, Brodney Pool, Charlie Frye, Antonio perkins, Dave McMillan, Nick Speegle, and Jon Dunn in order 1~7

1st round missed...again BE is a starter....but Demarcus ware, Shawne Merriman....
2nd round....lofa tatupu, kevin burnett, corey webster
3rd(ouch)round...Channing Crowder, Justin tuck, Ellis Hobbs, leroy hill, nick kaczur, trai essex, dominique foxworth,
4th(even worse) Brandon Jacobs,Marion Barber, Kerry rhodes, Vincent fuller, Jason Brown, Chris Canty, Darren Sproles, Brady Poppinga, Dan Buenning
5th round misses...Trent Cole, Michael Boley, Gerald sensabaugh
6th roun....Bo Scaife, Jovan Haye, Chris Kemoeatu...(get this) CJ Mosely,Derrick Anderson and Daven Holly*
7th round...Reynaldo hill, matt casell, Jay Ratliff
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Posted 07 October 2009 - 11:26 PM

2006...as far as I'm going.......vomit

9 players drafted......4 still with team....(just fkn three years ago)....5 OUT OF NFL .....THAT MAKES 6 OF 69 DRAFT PICKS STILL WITH THE BROWNS SINCE 99 ///////// 48 OUT OF 69 DRAFT PICKS OUT OF FOOTBALL

In order (1)Kam Wimbley, (traded faine and moved up to NO swapped second rounders)...(2)Dqwell Jackson, (3)Travis Wilson, (4a)Leon Williams,)(4b) Issac sowells, (5a)Jerome Harrison, (5b)Demario Minter, (6)Lawrence Vickers and (7)Justin Hamilton

Misses...rd1 nick mangold, Deangelo williams, Santonio Holmes blah blah blah
rd 2...maurice jones drew, Marcus Mcneil, Lendale white, Devin hester, Greg Jennings, Roman Harper
rd 3 Jerious Norwood, David Thomas, Rashad butler, Max Jean Giles
rd4. (fkn sick) Brandon Marshall, leon washington, Barry cofield, Stephen tulloch, Will blackmon, Elvis dumervill , Domenik Hixon, Parys Harleson, willie colon,
rd 5...dawan landry,mark anderson,
rd 6... Omar gaither, Pat McQuistan
round 7 Courtland Finnegan and Marquis Colston


cant do anymore...VOMIT

Building through the draft is absolutely to way to go ONLY IF YOU CAN EVALUATE TALENT! The worst in the NFL bar none....there is no need to look any further into what is wrong with the Cleveland Browns....Can someone figure out those percentages....my brain hurts!
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Posted 08 October 2009 - 12:07 AM

QUOTE (Solon16 @ Oct 8 2009, 12:26 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
2006...as far as I'm going.......vomit
THAT MAKES 6 OF 69 DRAFT PICKS STILL WITH THE BROWNS SINCE 99 ///////// 48 OUT OF 69 DRAFT PICKS OUT OF FOOTBALL


It'd be interesting to see these stats for the Steelers and Ravens from 1999-2006.
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Posted 08 October 2009 - 06:34 AM

10 years of bad GMs and horrible coaches...combined with al being fire happy and randy not letting crennel/savage go soon enough are the real root of the problem...
Randy obviously likes mangini and hopefully will stick with him because thats really what it will take to turn things around...unlike past coaches/GMs im starting to think this regime may be a very solid drafter...

We have yet to see robiskie and velkune but i bet they will both be worth the wait when mangooni deems them ready...im actually feeling pretty good about this regime as their longterm plan becomes more obvious..Daboll needs to add more flavors to his rather stale vanilla plan but that seems to be happening with DA at the helm...wink.gif
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Posted 08 October 2009 - 07:13 AM

QUOTE (Solon16 @ Oct 7 2009, 10:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
2004.....6 players drafted.....Kellen Winslow(traded2nd), sean jones (moved up to 2nd and gave up 3rd and swapped fifthpicks)3rd nada, 4th Luke McCown 5th Amon Gordon 6th Kirk Chambers 7th Adima---echemandu(JOE)

NONE WITH TEAM......Luke McCown,sean jones backups...Winslow only starter with other team....other 3 out of league.

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Oops. i got to know Chambers when he was in town, and he is still with Buffalo (unless something has happened in the last couple weeks). Nonetheless, you're point is well taken.

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