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[OSU Kid]

So how does everyone rank the AFC North Teams draft selections?

[cambridgeho]

It sounds crazy but Cincy is slowly building a very good young team. They will be pretty tough from here on out. Baltimore id give a b- and Steelers get a b-. As for us we addressed some glaring needs and will be surprisingly better this year, but still a year from being able to take the final step to the top of the division.

So,
Cincy
Bal
Pit
Clv(we have one of the top 5 hardest schedules.) 7-9 losing early and winning late.

[Harry Buffalo]

I'm not going to hand out grades but I will just talk about the Bengals real quick cause I honestly don't know what everyone is seeing in their draft. I strongly believe that a draft can't be judged before the guys play but I don't get why everyone is jerking off to their draft and booing at ours.

Kirkpatrick is not a great CB. He is too stiff hipped, doesn't have great hands, and doesn't have the speed to make up for it. Honestly all a WR needs to do is punch him at the line and regardless of their speed they are at least getting a nice long reception. If they move him to say SS he would do better, but they aren't and for the reason the pick isn't great. IMO he should have been a second round pick.

Zeitler is a solid pick up with the 2nd 1st round pick but it is very bland when you realize who they could have gotten instead with their first. But that's not Zeitler's fault and he can be a pro bowler some day. Still is solid DT but from watching Big 10 football every weekend he left me wanting. I think the DT from Washington the Steelers got in the 4th projects a lot better than still. I think Sanu is a good pick up in the 3rd round, could have easily gone in the early 2nd and I think he has enough talent to make a great #2 WR and have some 1000+ yard seasons.

I like Thompson better than our Hughes pick but not by much and honestly I think the Bengals needed DT even less than we did so the pick makes less sense. Charles is a good pick in the 4th but he is also a huge risk player for only being the #2 TE. The only two other guys that I know of their picks are Jones Cal who I think as a good chance of being solid but is going to get swallowed up on the roster and Herron who in my opinion is not that great and won't compliment BJGE very well as a 2nd or 3rd back. I don't understand how a guy with the caliber of Polk goes undrafted but Herron gets taken.

Anyway those are my opinions on their draft. I sure as hell wouldn't be surprised if they pulled another pro bowler out of it and some of the players I don't really like could end up being good but I certainly can't say that I like it anymore than the Browns draft.

[The Gipper]

I don't know if I can grade their drafts, but I can grade them:

Bengals: S
Steelers: SA
Ravens: U.W.C.G.F.T
Browns: C

[Vagitron]

It sounds crazy but Cincy is slowly building a very good young team. They will be pretty tough from here on out. Baltimore id give a b- and Steelers get a b-. As for us we addressed some glaring needs and will be surprisingly better this year, but still a year from being able to take the final step to the top of the division.

So,
Cincy
Bal
Pit
Clv(we have one of the top 5 hardest schedules.) 7-9 losing early and winning late.

How is the Steeler draft ranked 3rd? They certainly had a better draft than Baltimore and for the picks we had I'd argue we had a better draft than the Bengals as well. A guard in the mold of Faneca and a left tackle that should start at left or right tackle as a rookie. Spence is a heat seeking missile and the nose tackle is cut from the Hampton mold. You then add in Rainey in the 5th who A LOT of people compare to LeMichael James and Isiah Pead both who were drafted much higher. The Steelers killed it.

[Harry Buffalo]

How is the Steeler draft ranked 3rd? They certainly had a better draft than Baltimore and for the picks we had I'd argue we had a better draft than the Bengals as well. A guard in the mold of Faneca and a left tackle that should start at left or right tackle as a rookie. Spence is a heat seeking missile and the nose tackle is cut from the Hampton mold. You then add in Rainey in the 5th who A LOT of people compare to LeMichael James and Isiah Pead both who were drafted much higher. The Steelers killed it.

Douche thee name is Homo.

[cambridgeho]

How is the Steeler draft ranked 3rd? They certainly had a better draft than Baltimore and for the picks we had I'd argue we had a better draft than the Bengals as well. A guard in the mold of Faneca and a left tackle that should start at left or right tackle as a rookie. Spence is a heat seeking missile and the nose tackle is cut from the Hampton mold. You then add in Rainey in the 5th who A LOT of people compare to LeMichael James and Isiah Pead both who were drafted much higher. The Steelers killed it.

1st Rainey is not even close to James, the OT will start becuase you have to get younger there. Spence is no where near what you already have as lbs he is more a depth add for now. Your OG is a beast, i will admit.

[Vagitron]

1st Rainey is not even close to James, the OT will start becuase you have to get younger there. Spence is no where near what you already have as lbs he is more a depth add for now. Your OG is a beast, i will admit.

Mayock, Billick AND Charles Davis said Rainey is from the exact same mold. Mike Adams is also one of the few tackles in the draft where several draftniks labeled a tackle with "left tackle feet". He should have never fallen to 56 but because of his "weed" issue he dropped. He went through a lot to get back on the Steeler draft board and met all the criteria. As a result he was drafted at 56. I also agree that spence is depth. Who exactly is he going to start over right now? But he has tremendous instincts and he's rarely out of position. There is a reason several media outlets are labeling the Steeler draft as one of the best if not THE best. I'm not here to toot my teams horn but I thought their draft being ranked 3rd was ridiculous. Great, great draft. You also need to watch some tape on Rainey if you don't think he's James-esque.

[Vagitron]

Douche thee name is Homo.

One of these times you're going to realize I'm not bothered by my childish name change. Grow up.

[Vagitron]

http://profootballta...l-chris-rainey/

Rainey...watch some tape. He's likely going to return kicks and be a special teams gunner BUT he was drafted because of Hailey and being far too good to pass up. Hailey used McCluster effectively in Kansas City. I expect similar use with Rainey. He also lived with the Pouncey brothers for a good portion of his life. Also he and Ben can go out to the bar! (Self zinger!)

[Mike H]

Cincy
Balt
Browns
My left nutt
Steelers

[cambridgeho]

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/04/28/steelers-steal-chris-rainey/

Rainey...watch some tape. He's likely going to return kicks and be a special teams gunner BUT he was drafted because of Hailey and being far too good to pass up. Hailey used McCluster effectively in Kansas City. I expect similar use with Rainey. He also lived with the Pouncey brothers for a good portion of his life. Also he and Ben can go out to the bar! (Self zinger!)

Rainey is like mc cluster alittle. Anyway i live about 3 hours from gainesville and have seen manu gator games and rainey was not that great against SEC teams as a runner, just too damn small. Also when you are ranking a draft your are putting them in order as to how i feel the division did. I did not rataing them on a A,B,C system. I didnt say any one team sucked dick. This is how i rank the draft in our division. As a matter a fact after looking through these picks again i think we had a way better draft than you. .http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/2012/nfl_draft_order_full.cfm
Go through there and honestly tell me our draft was not better than yours on talent and need and depth.

New ranking
Clv
Cin
Blt
Pit

[Vagitron]

Rainey is like mc cluster alittle. Anyway i live about 3 hours from gainesville and have seen manu gator games and rainey was not that great against SEC teams as a runner, just too damn small. Also when you are ranking a draft your are putting them in order as to how i feel the division did. I did not rataing them on a A,B,C system. I didnt say any one team sucked dick. This is how i rank the draft in our division. As a matter a fact after looking through these picks again i think we had a way better draft than you. .http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/2012/nfl_draft_order_full.cfm
Go through there and honestly tell me our draft was not better than yours on talent and need and depth.

New ranking
Clv
Cin
Blt
Pit

Trollie, troller skins. I'm not dumb enough to jump in to this one. Try getting one of the others to bite on your comedy gold. You should probably take this one on the road or at least make a humorous youtube vid. "Factory of Sadness"

[cambridgeho]

Ok bro it is a team by team list of draft picks. Do as you will.

[Vagitron]

Ok bro it is a team by team list of draft picks. Do as you will.

There isn't a realistic person on the planet that would grade the Browns higher than the Steelers. You could argue the Bengals but they also had more picks in the higher rounds. The Ravens had a solid draft but it wasn't all that great and the Browns certainly didn't have a poor draft by any stretch. I think every team in the division improved but the Steelers grabbed some SERIOUS steals, all the way through round 5. It's hard for me to get super excited because you don't know a damn thing until you see them on the NFL field but as of right now it may be the best Steeler draft since 74. The Browns did not have a stronger draft. Period.

[cambridgeho]

There isn't a realistic person on the planet that would grade the Browns higher than the Steelers. You could argue the Bengals but they also had more picks in the higher rounds. The Ravens had a solid draft but it wasn't all that great and the Browns certainly didn't have a poor draft by any stretch. I think every team in the division improved but the Steelers grabbed some SERIOUS steals, all the way through round 5. It's hard for me to get super excited because you don't know a damn thing until you see them on the NFL field but as of right now it may be the best Steeler draft since 74. The Browns did not have a stronger draft. Period.

I guess which ever team has more rookies starting will determine the best draft then.

[calfoxwc]

Considering the dramatic impact on the team, the Browns get an A+++. The Bengals get a C-....
the stupid, ugly stinkin ratbirds get a C...

and the sterioders of the three rivers scum get a C.

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[Vagitron]

I guess which ever team has more rookies starting will determine the best draft then.

Unless one team is of lesser quality across the board than the others. However the Steelers could have 5 contribute immediately. I expect Spence and Rainey to contribute on special teams. DeCastro will start and Adams should as well. I also expect Alameda to rotate in if his camp goes well but he may just go depth this season as he's still a bit raw despite his second round grade by most scouting agencies.

[Vagitron]

Considering the dramatic impact on the team, the Browns get an A+++. The Bengals get a C-....
the stupid, ugly stinkin ratbirds get a C...

and the sterioders of the three rivers scum get a C.

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You don't think DeCastro and Adams will have a dramatic impact on the Steelers? Either way it's all beside the point as it's a matter of personal opinion. I haven't read or heard the Browns being mentioned as the teams that drafted the strongest. I have however seen the Steelers mentioned in that regard.

[cambridgeho]

Unless one team is of lesser quality across the board than the others. However the Steelers could have 5 contribute immediately. I expect Spence and Rainey to contribute on special teams. DeCastro will start and Adams should as well. I also expect Alameda to rotate in if his camp goes well but he may just go depth this season as he's still a bit raw despite his second round grade by most scouting agencies.

Well we drafted our starting rb,qb,rt,og
Johnson and acho will be special teams also
And added dl depth and a decent db to compete,
Also we added Smelley balls and he will be our starting fb by week 1. So we will have 5 rookies starting this yr. So how do you decide if we had a better draft or not.