WinstonLegthigh Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 OK, I know most people's thoughts on Jay Cutler. He has sucked this year, and has some really bad moments. That being said, if/when the bears get rid of him, and if JF sucks ass the rest of the year (or even if he doesn't) would you want cutler?I was having this discussion with my cousin, and thought I would bring it here. At first I was hesitant to the idea, but I'm starting to come around. Cutler is usually a great QB, and he has one of the best arms in the league. I feel we are only in need of a few more key pieces and some depth, and we will be a powerhouse. A good draft of O and D line, a LB or two, and sign or trade for cutler. I dunno what his contract situation is but we could probably get him without giving much up.Anyway, thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Footwear Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Cutler is garbage and poison to a team. You don't want him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 A whiny bitch prone to serious turnovers? We already have one of those at QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 At a greatly reduced rate and in a run first offense, I wouldn't be opposed to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Cutler would have to take a massive pay cut before I would even consider it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinstonLegthigh Posted December 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 At a greatly reduced rate and in a run first offense, I wouldn't be opposed to it. Which is what we are trying to do if I'm not mistaken, run heavy with a great D. In that offense I think he could work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdl15 Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Didn't Broncos trade him to pave the way for Teabag??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 No... No... ... and then... No. He's Jeff George reincarnate. ... and NO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 great arm. no brains. not a good combination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 I'd take his wife Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 There won't be anything left of Jay when the MNF Postgame crew is done with him... So his wife should be available. On another note Cavs' highlights on SportCenter included a number of pinpoint bombs from Kevin Love to LeBron. They then CG'd "Love" to the bottom of the name-list jersey.. right under Johnnie's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalterWhite Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Cutler is the most apathetic QB I've ever seen. IF, and I mean if the Browns go a different direction from Hoyer/Manziel in the offseason, I already have a guy in mind but I think it would require quite a bit to get him: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns1216 Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Cutler would be a downgrade from Hoyer. If the Browns defense plays like they played against the Colts, then all the Browns need is a QB that won't turn the ball over and can keep the offense on the field. They don't need a superstar, just someone serviceable. Between Hoyer, Manziel and Shaw they can find someone competent enough to lead the offense. No new QB, I'd rather see the Browns focus on bulking up the run defense or the O-line and draft a receiver who understands how to run routes and will fight for the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Cutler would be a downgrade from Hoyer. If the Browns defense plays like they played against the Colts, then all the Browns need is a QB that won't turn the ball over and can keep the offense on the field. They don't need a superstar, just someone serviceable. Between Hoyer, Manziel and Shaw they can find someone competent enough to lead the offense. No new QB, I'd rather see the Browns focus on bulking up the run defense or the O-line and draft a receiver who understands how to run routes and will fight for the ball. Amen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Cutler would be a downgrade from Hoyer. If the Browns defense plays like they played against the Colts, then all the Browns need is a QB that won't turn the ball over and can keep the offense on the field. They don't need a superstar, just someone serviceable. Between Hoyer, Manziel and Shaw they can find someone competent enough to lead the offense. No new QB, I'd rather see the Browns focus on bulking up the run defense or the O-line and draft a receiver who understands how to run routes and will fight for the ball. No shit! How the hell can a football team have success if turd running backs cut through the 3 4 defense like it was a stick of warm butter? What other reason is there to run a 3 4 in the first place? And I agree that injuries have taken a big toll on the offensive line and we do need some depth. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 I'm being 100% serious that I'd rather cut Manziel and Hoyer and bring back Derek Anderson, Colt McCoy and Weeden to compete before having Jay Cutler. DA is 2-0 as a starter, where's Lumbergh when you need em? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 No shit! How the hell can a football team have success if turd running backs cut through the 3 4 defense like it was a stick of warm butter? What other reason is there to run a 3 4 in the first place? And I agree that injuries have taken a big toll on the offensive line and we do need some depth. WSS So it's your belief that any team running a variation of a 34 can't stop the run? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 So it's your belief that any team running a variation of a 34 can't stop the run? Uh....no? I'm saying that the three 4 is supposedly a better defense for stopping the run just by its design. And I am saying that makes it even shittier that we can't stop the run at all. sorry if I wasn't clear. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 I'm being 100% serious that I'd rather cut Manziel and Hoyer and bring back Derek Anderson, Colt McCoy and Weeden to compete before having Jay Cutler. DA is 2-0 as a starter, where's Lumbergh when you need em? Id actually rather face Cam than DA this week, they seem "grittier" when Anderson plays. Not gonna matter if we don't put together a gameplan that the Muchkin can execute, they have a talented front seven, gotta get the ball up in the air quickly and effectively, no waltzing around holding the football up by his head like Joe College. Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manzier Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Cutler = no thanks If we can condemn Johnny after one game, why would we think Cutler can do it after 9 years of futility? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Id actually rather face Cam than DA this week, they seem "grittier" when Anderson plays. Not gonna matter if we don't put together a gameplan that the Muchkin can execute, they have a talented front seven, gotta get the ball up in the air quickly and effectively, no waltzing around holding the football up by his head like Joe College. Z I agree with all of that. Just know if you hear a faint "we want Anderson back" chant it's the 25 year old dude in a Browns Santa hat starting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicopee John Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Cutler is the most apathetic QB I've ever seen. IF, and I mean if the Browns go a different direction from Hoyer/Manziel in the offseason, I already have a guy in mind but I think it would require quite a bit to get him: He was a 3rd Round Pick, at least, by the Pats. Imagine if the Browns took Sammy Watkins with their first pick, the CB with their second pick in the first round and Garoppolo in the second round? IF JF proves to be a bust - and I do mean IF - the Browns' FO has to be held 100% accountable. Pretty soon, many of the team's key players will be hitting their peak or, even, start the downslide while the FO continues to look for an NFL QB. It's the FO (again) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Cutler is the most apathetic QB I've ever seen. Walter, that is a perfect word choice... sorry if I wasn't clear. So it's not just when I read your posts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Walter, that is a perfect word choice... So it's not just when I read your posts... Well again that was to somebody else. But were you confused about my 3 4 defense statement? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 Lol. The bears were the team to overvalue Cutler, we weren't and still aren't that dumb. And Jimmy G is the guy I was hoping we'd draft to develop, over Johnny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 So it's your belief that any team running a variation of a 34 can't stop the run? I understood what he was saying. Although I don't agree anymore that any one scheme is superior to stopping either the run or pass...it's all on personnel. You get the best personnel you can and you fit the scheme to what they do best. I don't think we've done that here. There's zero reason to be standing up Kruger and Sheard almost 100% of the game like we do. They don't set the edge any better standing than they do from the 3 point. And both explode harder off the line with their hands down. So if we're not asking two 270'ish lb OLB'ers to drop much in coverage, why on earth are we standing them? Mingo you stand, I get it...cause he is a legitimate threat to drop back and be competent at it. No qb has ever looked at Sheard and Kruger standing up at the line and thought to themselves I wonder if they're rushing or dropping?......and changed the play one itota based on whether the guys were up or down. That's not to say I dont' think edges should ever stand...even in a 4-3 I wouldn't mind the DE's standing up in a two point run defense stance which lets them squat in the bounce lanes. Course that's predicated on the interior then doing it's job. Which ours hasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 But were you confused about my 3 4 defense statement? What was the famous line from "Don't Say a Word"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opal312 Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 Weeks before the draft this past May, I was convinced they would take Mike Evans or Khalil Mack at #4 and Derek Carr or Garapollo at #26. But Farmer wasn't drafting who any of the experts or fans thought he would. So it's a bit disconcerting going into next year's draft knowing we could take a complete unproven in the first round. Did the Front office even show up at the combine? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opal312 Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 Lol. The bears were the team to overvalue Cutler, we weren't and still aren't that dumb. And Jimmy G is the guy I was hoping we'd draft to develop, over Johnny. I'm still mad the Patriots got him. Still think he was the best of the bunch too. Apparently, so does Belicheck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opal312 Posted December 17, 2014 Report Share Posted December 17, 2014 He was a 3rd Round Pick, at least, by the Pats. Imagine if the Browns took Sammy Watkins with their first pick, the CB with their second pick in the first round and Garoppolo in the second round? IF JF proves to be a bust - and I do mean IF - the Browns' FO has to be held 100% accountable. Pretty soon, many of the team's key players will be hitting their peak or, even, start the downslide while the FO continues to look for an NFL QB. It's the FO (again) I screamed for two weeks about Ray Farmer and the draft. Now it looks like another bust! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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