My last Browns' mock (with trades)

[Tiott]

Hi guys ! Here's my new Browns' mock. As you can see i changed my mind once again ! But hey that's the game. So let's talk about it. As you'll see I made a couple of trades. I think the Browns will continue to be agressive just like they were in free agency. They won't hesitate to make trades to pick the guys they want. I just don't think they need all of their 10 picks. They need 3 or 4 game changers to finally become contenders. To me, having 4 picks in the top 40 will turn this team around. So i gave up some mid rounds picks to get it done. This is probably my last mock which means this is what I hope the Browns will do in May. I can't wait !!!

 

4th Pick : Sammy Watkins, WR Clemson

Best offensive player in the draft. Gordon would have more space to operate. He would put our offense on the top. He is just an electric playmaker who would make life easier for our QB. Watkins has elite speed, hands and strenght. He's a bad boy. Best wide receiver since Julio.

 

23rd Pick from Kansas City (trade for our 26th pick and 83rd pick) : Kyle Fuller, CB Virginia Tech

I think it's safe to say that the Chiefs will go either o-line or WR in the first round. Either way they will find what they want at #26 since they don't have the same needs than the Chargers and the Bengals. As for us we need a big time corner to put next to Joe Haden. San Diego and Cincinnati both need a corner. This is possible they take a player we need and want. This is why we should trade up to take Fuller. He is a big strong corner who has tremendous instinct giving him the ability to read routes and create turnovers. Big time against the run. He will learn next to Haden which is also a huge plus.

 

35th Pick : Ryan Shazier, LB Ohio State

Oh boy ! I think this kid is a can't miss early in the second round. He jumped off the screen on every snaps ! He is amazing against the run, is pretty good in the passing game and is a great situational blitzer. Big hitter. A top 10 athlete. Will kill inside in Pettine's defense next to Dansby. He has a huge motor and could be the leader of this defense down the road. He will be a player who "Play like a Brown" and who could change the identity of this team.

 

39th Pick from Jacksonville (trade for our 71st pick, 106nd pick, 127rd pick and next year 2nd round pick) : Zach Mettenberger, QB LSU

This is a trade we need to pull off. Jacksonville needs depth everywhere so i think they could trade this pick. This is where finally we take our Quaterback. And no this is not Johnny Football, not Derek Carr, not Garoppolo... It's the guy that for me, with time, has the best chance to become a true franchise QB. Just watch the tape, he makes amazing throws. He is mobile IN THE POCKET (of course he will not make 30 yards runs), poised and accurate. Can throw the deep ball with ease. Has great touch. He is a tough kid. He learned the position with Cam Cameron. Put him on the bench behind Hoyer and let him learn.

 

145th Pick : Trai Turner, OG LSU

Still very young (20) but huge upside for this poweful guard. He is an all around good player who can use his impressive athletic abilities on the run. Still needs to improve on the pass protection but this would be an instant upgrade. Fits the Shannan system.

 

180th Pick : Isaiah Crowell, RB Alabama State

Typically the type of steal RB Shannan will find in the late rounds. Definitly the type of back he likes and who will fit his system. Crowell is a dynamic powerful back who can break tackles for a big gain. He is quick on his feet and has a big upside. There's some concerns about his attitude off the field, but there's a reason why he is projected this low.

 

193rd Pick from Kansas City (trade for the 23rd Pick) : Lonnie Ballentine, FS Memphis

I'll admit it, I might like his combination of size and athletic abilities more than his game but we're in the late rounds. This is all about potential at this point. And this kid has a huge potential. He put up big time numbers and was one of the most important part of Memphis' defense last year. But he lacks toughness sometimes. Still, he could be a late round home run is he can learn from guys like Wittner and Haden.

 

218th Pick : Colt Lyerla, TE Oregon

This is the boom or bust pick. I think this is something the Browns can try in the 7th round. This kid is one of the best talent at his position in the entire draft. Yes he is (was) a junkie. But why not try him this summer and see how he is. If he is still addicted or an off field problem, cut him. If he balls and stays serious and clean, keep him. They have nothing to loose. He is the most talented "late rounds" player by far.

 

 

Let me know what you think !

[GuNNerGatSKi]

I could very well live with draft bro. Though I do really like Watkins, I think Evans is a better fit for us, but I would be far from angry if we picked him. I agree he is the most explosive receiver to come out since el Julio.

[DownSouthKC]

Seems like a steep price to pay to move up 3 slots in the late 1st round but I really have no idea.

 

It's alright. I don't like Mettenberger so trading up to get him seems dumb. I'd rather get Garropolo or McCarron instead.

 

I hope Colt and Gordon don't become friends or we will be our half of our offense from an ill timed piss test.

[GuNNerGatSKi]

Seems like a steep price to pay to move up 3 slots in the late 1st round but I really have no idea.

 

It's alright. I don't like Mettenberger so trading up to get him seems dumb. I'd rather get Garropolo or McCarron instead.

 

I hope Colt and Gordon don't become friends or we will be our half of our offense from an ill timed piss test.

Lol.... Funny shit (sorta). I Gordon has his head in the game now. After the season he had I think it has dawned on him how truly gifted he is and what a dumb dick he would have to be to throw it all away....

[hoorta]

Let me know what you think !

 

I think we don't need anymore mock drafts. Nice enough, but I doubt the Browns are interested in Shazier. No to Mettlenberger, and no to a trade up in the first. Garrapolo at the top of the second. Anything beyond that is wild guessing, and you have too much time on your hands to research third day prospects.

[gftChris]

39th pick - trade for our 71st pick, 106nd pick, 127rd pick and next year 2nd round pick

 

I disagree with the magnitude of the trade.

[Tiott]

39th pick - trade for our 71st pick, 106nd pick, 127rd pick and next year 2nd round pick

 

I disagree with the magnitude of the trade.

 

In such a deep draft, it is going to be hard to move up early in the second round. I think this is the price to pay. We can still make other trades.

[gftChris]

In such a deep draft, it is going to be hard to move up early in the second round. I think this is the price to pay. We can still make other trades.

But what is that, a third, a fourth, another fourth, and next year's second, for a second? That price is too big, I think Jacksonville would say yes and slam the phone down before you had time to reconsider.

[miktoxic]

But what is that, a third, a fourth, another fourth, and next year's second, for a second? That price is too big, I think Jacksonville would say yes and slam the phone down before you had time to reconsider.

it could be done without touching next year's pick if you're giving away 3 picks from this draft.

[calfoxwc]

Mettenberger? Another Derek Anderson?

 

NO. No to everybody after that. Wasting those later picks on

guys who are dopers, and/or bad characters off the field maybe,

The rb has off the field and drug concerns, the TE is a JUNKIE ? good grief.

 

no. Farmer has higher standards.

 

The FS will surely go higher - he'd be a huge steal there. Only Savage

would pick your TE and RB

 

The first three picks are fine, except then you don't get your qb.

 

There's the problem, and this year's draft is convoluted and impossible to figure to start with.

 

But trading up to the the completely wrong qb is ridiculous. It would be light years

ahead to wait to see if Savage or Brett Smith was there in the third.

[DawgPoundFL2827]

New here but been a huge browns fan myself, worked for them for about 2 years and then with the turmoil the past few years I made a move to FL for sunshine and beautiful weather. I am a huge Virginia Tech fan so call me biased but Kyle Fuller would be a huge get for the Browns. He is a beast, can tackle well has fluid hips and has some good ball skills. Pair him up with Haden and the "No Fly Zone" will be in full effect.

 

GO browns!

[Tiott]

Mettenberger? Another Derek Anderson?

 

But trading up to the the completely wrong qb is ridiculous.

 

I hereby nickname Mettenberger "Lurch".

Can you explain me why you don't like him ? And who is the "completely right" QB ?!

[calfoxwc]

Well, he isn't mobile much. And I've seen him take a too long to make decisions,

and he has made some bad ones where you go "what the hell was he thinking?",

with some throws.

 

He has two outstanding wr's, and a huge, solid oline, and rb and...

 

He just reminds me of Derek Anderson, and that ticks me off, that's all.

[gftChris]

Well, he isn't mobile much. And I've seen him take a too long to make decisions,

and he has made some bad ones where you go "what the hell was he thinking?",

with some throws.

 

He has two outstanding wr's, and a huge, solid oline, and rb and...

 

He just reminds me of Derek Anderson, and that ticks me off, that's all.

A poor man's Derek Carr. which is not a good thing, considering a rich man's Derek Carr is about Brandon Weeden.

 

I think a lot of people around Cleveland have been put off the big, cannon armed, slow footed, slow minded QBs thanks to Weeden and Anderson.

[Tiott]

Well, he isn't mobile much. And I've seen him take a too long to make decisions,

and he has made some bad ones where you go "what the hell was he thinking?",

with some throws.

 

He has two outstanding wr's, and a huge, solid oline, and rb and...

 

He just reminds me of Derek Anderson, and that ticks me off, that's all.

Scouts said the exact same thing about Tom Brady : "isn't mobile enough to avoid the pass rush, isn't quick enough on his decisions blablabla..." Now of course I'm not saying he is the new Brady but this is just highly overrated. I mean look at Nick Foles, Big Ben... They are mobile in the pocket. They won't make an RGIII type of run but they are athletic and smart enough to avoid big guys coming at them. This is something he will learn down the road. But he is absolutly mobile in the pocket.

What is important to me is his throws, his plays againts good defenses (Alabama for example), his decisions under pressure...

Of course he is not perfect. But the tools are here. This is undeniable. Films don't lie.

[calfoxwc]

Here's a top three picks draft for the Browns that I think is creative:

 

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-shutdown-corner/nfl-draft--two-round-mock-draft-projects-trades-up-for-manziel--bridgewater-150816353.html

 

Mathews, OT,

then a trade up with Miami, to get...Manziel !

 

But I'd pass on the wr they pick. I mean, I'd take Allen Robinson, if he's still there,

in a NY second. Wouldn't THAT be crazy !

[PoeticG]

Round 1 Pick 11 (TENN): Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M (A)

Round 1 Pick 13 (STL): Mike Evans, WR, Texas A&M (A)

Round 1 Pick 27 (N.O.): Derek Carr, QB, Fresno State (A-)

Round 3 Pick 19: Carlos Hyde, RB, Ohio State (A)

Round 6 Pick 4: Dri Archer, WR, Kent State ©

Round 7 Pick 3: Kirby Van Der Kamp, P, Iowa State (A)

 

Your Future Picks:

2015 Round 1 Pick

2016 Round 1 Pick

[Tiott]

Round 1 Pick 11 (TENN): Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M (A)Round 1 Pick 13 (STL): Mike Evans, WR, Texas A&M (A)Round 1 Pick 27 (N.O.): Derek Carr, QB, Fresno State (A-)Round 3 Pick 19: Carlos Hyde, RB, Ohio State (A)Round 6 Pick 4: Dri Archer, WR, Kent State ©Round 7 Pick 3: Kirby Van Der Kamp, P, Iowa State (A)Your Future Picks:2015 Round 1 Pick2016 Round 1 Pick

What is that ?

[gftChris]

What is that ?

Not a great draft (I can't stand Carr) but an interesting prospect - we have an awful lot of roster members that can be classified as 'contributors' but are missing top players; how much can we move up if we bundle up all of our lower round pick? Can we get three first round players? Should we?

[Tiott]

Not a great draft (I can't stand Carr) but an interesting prospect - we have an awful lot of roster members that can be classified as 'contributors' but are missing top players; how much can we move up if we bundle up all of our lower round pick? Can we get three first round players? Should we?

No corner and linebacker ?! I mean if we somehow find a way to have 3 first round picks, we have to strengthen those positions in priority.

[gftChris]

No corner and linebacker ?! I mean if we somehow find a way to have 3 first round picks, we have to strengthen those needs in priority.

"not a great draft" - I'm not saying we should draft the guys he's talking about. I hate carr and don't fancy Hyde much. I could live with Evans and Matthews, but the point is, with three first round picks and a third, we could pick up a WR, OL, CB and ILB, and basically be set with at least competent starters at every position.

[Tiott]

"not a great draft" - I'm not saying we should draft the guys he's talking about. I hate carr and don't fancy Hyde much. I could live with Evans and Matthews, but the point is, with three first round picks and a third, we could pick up a WR, OL, CB and ILB, and basically be set with at least competent starters at every position.

I absolutly agree. I would love to have those picks. I would have to make another mock ! But still i dont like the players he wants to select with these picks.

[gftChris]

I'm beginning to wonder if we won't trade some of next year's picks for picks in this draft. Not like for like, perhaps, but next year's 3 with another 3 from this year for someone's 2, something like that.

[miktoxic]

No corner and linebacker ?! I mean if we somehow find a way to have 3 first round picks, we have to strengthen those positions in priority.

 

depends on if we trade down or not, i believe. i think there might be AT LEAST 2 teams making moves ahead of us, that might fuck up our opportunities to do so.

 

so much depends on whether or not the FO of the browns are sold on one of these QBs so much so, that they pick them @4. then the plan would be pretty clear cut in my eyes. CB/LB/OL/WR. in any order. have to find starters at those positions.

 

i mean the only reason to NOT want to trade down is if 'your' guy is still on the board. i think they are really hoping that mack falls, but i also believe that they would have no problem on pulling the trigger on bortles, manziel or carr (it's a reach i know but there is sooo much info tying him to cleveland).

 

if they do trade down then 2 of the top 4 QBs will be gone. watkins and evans will most likely be gone. it'll prob put us in the area of the 2nd best CBs and LBs available and hopefully give us the ammo to move back up into the first and get a couple of another top prospect. if we were to walk away with 3 out of the 5 positions of need taken care of with blue chip players (no matter what position) i'd be happy. as long as we're not talking giving away next year's 1-2 round picks i'm ok with it.

 

but i'm also ok with staying pat. either way i believe these guys know what they're doing.

[Harry Buffalo]

Any mock showing trades or having Mettenburger drafted in the early second isn't worth reading.