gftChris Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Felt this needed its own thread, otherwise it would get buried. Gives his side of the story. https://medium.com/the-cauldron/an-open-letter-to-charles-barkley-co-cb5c4e64cf3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Interesting and forthright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secondwave Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 loved it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 I'm sure he didn't write it, but it certainly hits home on people pre-judging him and the obstacles he has faced/caused. And explains the suspensions. He sure passed a lot of tests. How does someone not let him know that the testing continues after the regular season? Browns? Agent? Mgr? Maybe he needs to get married, his wife would know every detail of any suspension, and every dollar. Zombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 He's got some issues and just doesn't get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiott Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 So what ? It's not others fault. Man up bro. Stop telling us "oh i didn't know, it's not my fault, I thought so bla-bla-bla" You either a pro or you're not. This is all on you buddy. This isn't stephen a or chuck's fault. YOU are the dude that's gonna get suspended ONCE AGAIN. Stop making excuses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Certainly fits what I have always wanted to believe about the test results... and about Chris Carter's pontification. That said, I think the letter fell short in explaining two points: the drinking on the plane; and his poor performance at the end of the season culminating in being late. Mistakes? Yes, but why were they made? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secondwave Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 He's got some issues and just doesn't get it. then i guess you missed the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 then i guess you missed the point. I got Josh's point, he makes mistakes and he owns them but he had a rough go of it so there's the rationalization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 I don't really care. He fucked up once, twice, more then three times too much already. Sayonara. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 If this is indeed what actually happened, then I revoke my previous statement on him not giving a fuck. This letter is a fantastic (clearly ghost written) glimpse into Gordon's psyche and motivations. It shows you where he comes from and maybe where he wants to go. You know what would be a better proof of maturation, however? Playing an entire season. Do that, and we're golden. Stop "making mistakes" or "putting yourself in bad situations". The only suspension I'd accept is the one he gets for knocking Manziel the fuck out and telling him to leave him alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runyon27 Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 I don't really care. He fucked up once, twice, more then three times too much already. Sayonara. Yeah drinking a beer afte rthe season is over is sayonara worthy...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Yeah drinking a beer afte rthe season is over is sayonara worthy...... When you're on probation for a DUI it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 It certainly doesn't seem like he's come to grips with the fact that he has a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 If this is indeed what actually happened, then I revoke my previous statement on him not giving a fuck. You know what would be a better proof of maturation, however? Playing an entire season. Do that, and we're golden. Stop "making mistakes" or "putting yourself in bad situations". This would be my stance with both Josh and Johnny.....simply put.......shut up and prove it. Until then, Im "uninvested"..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Josh Gordon just confirmed what I thought. The guy uses his upbringing as an excuse for being a dumb shit. We get it, Josh. You are not an addict, just a fucking moron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcam222 Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Definitely ghost written.i hate to sound harsh but his "life story" is a match with 100 other NFL guys who don't keep "making mistakes". At this point sad to say if he is truly not an addict or set medicating an underlying medical condition he is a pure dumbass. I personally believe he is firmly in denial but that's just my opinion. I can tell you that when first confronted with friends calling out my addiction I answered with very similar sentiments as Josh. I SINCERELY believed I wasn't an addict for years. I of course was wrong. Thank god I finally figured out it was not my past, not my friends, not my bad conscious decisions, not a few mistakes but a debilitating disease. But hey that's my story perhaps his is different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Not play like a Brown, But SAID like a Brown. At 23 You hope the best is ahead of him, and it is if HE makes it happen.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 That was an interesting read. The one red flag I saw was when JG said he tested positive for pot from second hand smoke. That is not impossible but it is unlikely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Eh call me whatever for this but after reading every word of this I feel no different. I respect Gordon for getting out of poverty and as a personal advocate for social matters can understand how difficult it is to escape that life he grew up in. But you can only cry wolf so many times before I just don't believe it. I don't even think it's an addiction thing just more a guy who doesn't wanna get his life together. Words are words but actions are louder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 The one red flag I saw was when JG said he tested positive for pot from second hand smoke. That is not impossible but it is unlikely. Not at the levels in effect at the time, OBF... it's one of the reasons the levels were changed. I am kinda curious as to the other Browns on the "private flight". Should take all of a week before that info comes out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuNNerGatSKi Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Definitely ghost written.i hate to sound harsh but his "life story" is a match with 100 other NFL guys who don't keep "making mistakes". At this point sad to say if he is truly not an addict or set medicating an underlying medical condition he is a pure dumbass. I personally believe he is firmly in denial but that's just my opinion. I can tell you that when first confronted with friends calling out my addiction I answered with very similar sentiments as Josh. I SINCERELY believed I wasn't an addict for years. I of course was wrong. Thank god I finally figured out it was not my past, not my friends, not my bad conscious decisions, not a few mistakes but a debilitating disease. But hey that's my story perhaps his is different. As is mine Jcam. Even as I was suffering through some gruesome shit still held onto the lie that I had it all under control and that the world was just out to shit on me. I'm not going to sit here and call Josh and addict. That's not my place nor does anyone truely know the asnswer to that question but Flash himself. I will however, from a distance, draw parallels to my own experiences. In reality none of us know a goddamn thing about Flash. I just wish him the best and pray that if he does suffer from addiction that may his fall to the bottom be fast and brutal and his recovery a success. The majority of true addicts do not recover until they have destroyed every trace of their true self. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runyon27 Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 When you're on probation for a DUI it is. What problem are you fixing exactly? An alleged drinking problem or a problem understanding when the league season ends? Perhaps the former Browns WR coach who appears to have been on that same plane should have said something to Josh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 What problem are you fixing exactly? An alleged drinking problem or a problem understanding when the league season ends? Perhaps the former Browns WR coach who appears to have been on that same plane should have said something to Josh. I think the main issue is at what point does an adult have to act like one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 What problem are you fixing exactly? An alleged drinking problem or a problem understanding when the league season ends? Perhaps the former Browns WR coach who appears to have been on that same plane should have said something to Josh. Addiction in general, I have a dear family member that went from one vice to another. Keeping them abstinent from substance usually forces someone to confront themselves and their addictions. And even if the NFL isn't fixing anything, who gives a flying fuck? You're mandated to not consume whilst on DUI - don't do it. Pretty simple math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secondwave Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Some of guys are quick to call it a 'disease'? Like he said, you guys don't know shit. A man opens up to the world about his problems, you guys see excuses. Pity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted January 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Not at the levels in effect at the time, OBF... it's one of the reasons the levels were changed. I am kinda curious as to the other Browns on the "private flight". Should take all of a week before that info comes out. There were pictures a while back, it was the WR group, plus Haden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7moses7 Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Josh Gordon just confirmed what I thought. The guy uses his upbringing as an excuse for being a dumb shit. We get it, Josh. You are not an addict, just a fucking moron. AMEN Brother Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 There were pictures a while back, it was the WR group, plus Haden. Ya I saw the picture on instagram or something. There was a token white guy ... i think the receivers coach that left with Shanny. I guees no one said "Josh are sure it's OK to drink now?" Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 Some of guys are quick to call it a 'disease'? Like he said, you guys don't know shit. A man opens up to the world about his problems, you guys see excuses. Pity. Yeah we should definitely throw a little pity party for every millionaire who fucks up and blames it on their childhood. Sorry if sob stories mean exactly jack shit to me. I grew up rough too and it didn't stop me from living a productive life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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