darren15 Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 I dont know how people manage to do 7 rounds...2 took me an eternity to do ....biggest faller Deshone Kizer...biggest surprises Caleb Brantley and Justin Evans ....tear it to bits guys ROUND 1 Browns Myles Garrett DE 49rs Soloman Thomas DE Bears Jamal Adams S Jags Leonard Fournette RB Titans Marshon Lattimore CB Jets Mitch Trubisky QB Chargers Malik Hooker S Panthers Derek Barnett DE Bengals Jonathan Allen DT Bills Mike Williams WR Saints Reuben Foster LB Browns OJ Howard TE Cards Patrick Mahomes QB Eagles Caleb Brantley DT Colts Delvin Cook RB Ravens Corey Davis WR Redskins Christian McCaffrey RB Titans John Ross WR Buccs Justin Evans S Broncos Ryan Ramczyk OT Lions Taco Charlton DE Dolphins Tre Davious White CB Giants Jabrill. Peppers LB Raiders Jarrad Davis LB Texans Deshaun Watson QB Seahawks Forrest Lamp OG Chiefs Malik McDowell DT Cowboys Marlon Humphrey CB Packers Takk McKinley DE Steelers Zach Cunningham LB Falcons David Njoku TE Saints Haason Reddick LB ROUND 2 Browns Garreon Conley CB 49rs Gerald Everett TE Jags Evan Engram TE Bears Garrett Bolles OT Rams Budda Baker S Chargers Cam Robinson OT Jets Cordrea Tankersley CB Panthers Joe Mixon RB Bengals Raekwon McMillen LB Saints Zay Jones WR Eagles Alvin Kamara RB Bills Teez Tabor CB Cards Adoree Jackson CB Colts Tim Williams DE/OLB Ravens Ryan Anderson OLB Vikings Montavious Adams DT Redskins Marcus Maye S Buccs Samaje Perine RB Broncos TJ Watt LB Browns Marcus Williams S Lions Antonio Garcia OT Dolphins Carl Lawson OLB Giants Demarcus Walker DE Raiders Charles Harris DE Texans Dan Feeney OG Seahawks Kevin King CB Chiefs Deshone Kizer QB Cowboys Obi Melfonwu S Packers Chidobe Awuzie CB Steelers Tyus Bowser OLB Falcons Chris Wormley DE Panthers Cooper Kupp WR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alporcini Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 No indictment of yours darren, just a general observation and question... Why has Cam Robinson been falling into the 2nd round in so many of the mocks I've been following... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren15 Posted April 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Lots of pundits have him as a right tackle only in the NFL .....say he needs to lose weight and pick up speed to be a right tackle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 I was going to dump on a mere, two-round effort, but since you did every team rather than just the Browns, I can't... ... and now I hate you for that... Lots of pundits have him as a right tackle only in the NFL .....say he needs to lose weight and pick up speed to be a right tackle ... and while his BAMA tape was generally good, he showed flaws, e.g., lowering his head into contact and not using his long arms to significant advantage. At best I saw him as a R1-2 cusp prospect. But then the only solid R1 I saw in the entire OL class was Lamp, who I think can perform at OT, but likely excels at OG at the next level. Then Cam's Combine drills ranged from ordinary to bad. Of his measurements only his 5.15-40 and 1.8-ish 10-yd split were close to impressive. He came off a little stiff-hipped in his field drills. Never have seen a Bench press result for him. The plus is Cam's feet. While he's not completely in command of how to use them to greatest advantage yet, e.g., currently shows more of a chopping retreat in PassPro than a kick-slide, he will probably develop that technique... out of necessity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 I was going to dump on a mere, two-round effort, but since you did every team rather than just the Browns, I can't... ... and now I hate you for that... ... and while his BAMA tape was generally good, he showed flaws, e.g., lowering his head into contact and not using his long arms to significant advantage. At best I saw him as a R1-2 cusp prospect. But then the only solid R1 I saw in the entire OL class was Lamp, who I think can perform at OT, but likely excels at OG at the next level. Then Cam's Combine drills ranged from ordinary to bad. Of his measurements only his 5.15-40 and 1.8-ish 10-yd split were close to impressive. He came off a little stiff-hipped in his field drills. Never have seen a Bench press result for him. The plus is Cam's feet. While he's not completely in command of how to use them to greatest advantage yet, e.g., currently shows more of a chopping retreat in PassPro than a kick-slide, he will probably develop that technique... out of necessity. Sure you aren't talking about Brandon Schreff (Iowa?) from a couple years back. This sounds very familiar to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Sure you aren't talking about Brandon Schreff (Iowa?) from a couple years back. This sounds very familiar to me. No way... I dumped on Scherff a lot harder. Can even remember starting with an "I just don't get what others are seeing" type comment and ended with something along the lines of a "maybe at OG, but not at OT". That said, he seems to have done better at OG than I'd have projected, but no one spends the pick WSH did on an OG. Dumped harder on Greg Robinson, too... although for the opposite reason as Cam. Greg's tape was really weak, IMO, but his Combine was great... had NFL folks drooling over his "athleticism". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 No way... I dumped on Scherff a lot harder. Can even remember starting with an "I just don't get what others are seeing" type comment and ended with something along the lines of a "maybe at OG, but not at OT". That said, he seems to have done better at OG than I'd have projected, but no one spends the pick WSH did on an OG. Dumped harder on Greg Robinson, too... although for the opposite reason as Cam. Greg's tape was really weak, IMO, but his Combine was great... had NFL folks drooling over his "athleticism". Pretty sure there were a couple shots called on Schreff's need to be moved to guard. To Cams credit, I see him generate more push up front in the run game than I saw Brandon. This is the area I yield to you on, but would a similar 'draft high, kick him inside' situation happen in this draft?.... Yeah, I can see that happening. I feel Cam would be more effective on the interior than Schreff. Though he has come along nicely for Washington, his rookie year was.... just bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 As is... I can't disagree, but I see OT possibilities in Cam. My biggest question mark this go 'round is Ramczyk... can't warm up to him and can't put my finger on why. I have two "loves" in the OL this class: Lamp and Dawkins. I think both can excel inside, but have a very good shot at being successful at OT to boot. And one value-like, UK's Center, Toth with an honorable mention to cal's guy, Moton. But any takes I have this year have to be looked at in the light that I did not deep dive after FA. I just don't see us as OL players this draft unless it is very late, e.g. tabbing Ole Miss' Justin Senior in the 6th, as I did in my mocks. So all I have are preliminary notes that I never took the time to post. It just seemed like it would be a waste of time. Just as weekly grading did during the 2016 season... still have Week 17 "in the can" in case I get super bored some afternoon, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Dumped harder on Greg Robinson, too... although for the opposite reason as Cam. Greg's tape was really weak, IMO, but his Combine was great... had NFL folks drooling over his "athleticism". I remember Greg Cosell and Ross Tucker being baffled about Greg Robinsons draft status they hated him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Jabrill Peppers, LB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Gerbil Peppers, LB? We don't have an overwhelming need at PR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 I'm asking if the OP actually thinks he's a LB? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren15 Posted April 6, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Sorry I could of had him as a strong safety too but the official school thread has him as a linebacker http://www.mgoblue.com/sports/m-footbl/mtt/jabrill_peppers_906061.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 I think Conley is terrific - but I can't imagine him falling out of the first round. He showed tremendous loose hips, speed, there isn't a reason for him to fall. I think at least six cb's go in the first round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyceRolls Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 I think Conley is terrific - but I can't imagine him falling out of the first round. He showed tremendous loose hips, speed, there isn't a reason for him to fall. I think at least six cb's go in the first round. I agree on the speed and hips, but he'll need to work on his hands at the next level as he never really jams guys at the line. Conley should be taken in the first round, but with this DB class being as deep as it is, it wouldn't be too shocking to see him slip through the cracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Agree... Deep CB class could mean teams go elsewhere after Lattimore is picked. Add that IMO the fall off in talent at other positions is far greater after the top one or two prospects. I think that's what happened in our forum mock which stalled at 3 CBs. Then in our Round 2 they exploded with 6 taken. Safeties followed a similar pattern with 3 in the 1st and 5 in the 2nd. Will be interesting to see how predictive we were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 I dont know how people manage to do 7 rounds...2 took me an eternity to do ....biggest faller Deshone Kizer...biggest surprises Caleb Brantley and Justin Evans ....tear it to bits guys I was going to dump on a mere, two-round effort, but since you did every team rather than just the Browns, I can't... ... and now I hate you for that... Damn good effort Darren.....and I had the same thought as Tour....exactly.....2 rounds?.....whats so hard about that..... Then I open the thread,,,,,and Whoa! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 Agree with Mud. And it's why many of the pro mocks stick to one round. Just too many damn variables when a real draft takes place. I'm off to watch the A&M spring game today. One for sure first rounder in WR Kirk and several new faces on D that will eventually be there too hopefully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 I dont know how people manage to do 7 rounds...2 took me an eternity to do .... Easy one... the inspiration of the paycheck... I'd entirely missed your opening line when I dove into your picks. Still would be unknown to me except for the ever-thorough Mudster... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 Sad Day in Greenville,NC . I have now thrown in my red challenge flag too. My long dream of my hometown guy WR-Zay Jones becoming a Brown has ended. Zay just barely makes it past pick #33 Every damn mock out there including First-pick. He just will not make it to our pick at 52. In a last ditch effort am buying the drinks & Zay's driving Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 Sad Day in Greenville,NC . I have now thrown in my red challenge flag too. My long dream of my hometown guy WR-Zay Jones becoming a Brown has ended. Zay just barely makes it past pick #33 Every damn mock out there including First-pick. He just will not make it to our pick at 52. In a last ditch effort am buying the drinks & Zay's driving Say... Zayonarra... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 Say... Zayonarra... Zambuca Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 There's room on my Taywan Taylor wagon.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 There's room on my Taywan Taylor wagon.... if it's red? with baseball cards in the spooks with shooting fireworks as the sirens? I'd call it a pattie wagon..bring it on..UUURRRRGGG..we are so screwed when he ends up in division....Maybe if you could get Dallas to take him late 1st? Hometown is Dallas & Cowboys Robert Jones is his daddy..Get me Jerry Jones phone number by draft night..Your on the clock ("Mr.Jones Gumby here") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suomi Posted April 8, 2017 Report Share Posted April 8, 2017 BRILLIANT.................... YET ANOTHER FUCKED UP, FAILED DRAFT.................. TRUBISKY is the pick at #1 #1 in this mock 2,3,4,5,6,8, 11 are all better picks than Garrett........... Garrett will be nothing in the NFL. Paxton Lynch has spoken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted April 9, 2017 Report Share Posted April 9, 2017 Having studied these teams in the board draft.. I don't think either Skins or Ravens will go this way. Ravens single dire need this offseason is DL after their lack of edge rush was the sole reason for them not making the playoffs. And they traded Jernigan to Philly.. so there's no way they don't go 3-4DE / OLB in the first and second in some combination. Yes, they need WR, but they drafted Perriman in the first recently and I'd think they'll demand he step up rather than take another rd1 WR. Redskins DL was the weakest part of the team last season and they lost their only useful member of it [baker] to TB in free agency. At present none of the Skins DL [the ridiculous backups they signed in FA] would make the Browns roster, even before Garrett. So there's no way they don't go DL with at least the first 2. They signed Swearinger so they definitely won't draft S before rd3. The RB need is only backup [Kelley is average-to-good]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 9, 2017 Report Share Posted April 9, 2017 if it's red? with baseball cards in the spooks with shooting fireworks as the sirens? I'd call it a pattie wagon..bring it on.. Front-seat's broken and the axle's draggin'... Having studied these teams in the board draft.. BTW... that did show through. Nice job... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren15 Posted April 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 I would make some changes to this draft now ........Especially the Caleb Brantley pick .....I was reading at the time lots of teams had him really high Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 I would make some changes to this draft now ........Especially the Caleb Brantley pick .....I was reading at the time lots of teams had him really high I think most of us would make at least one change, which would cascade to all having to make a couple changes... Maybe we should reconvene for a quick redo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 I've settled between whom I would want and who the Browns would most likely take. 1.1 Garrett/Allen 1.12 Trubs 2.33 Conley 2.52 Mixon (please don't hate me) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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