Clevfan4life Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 Defensively the front 7 looked bad today, but got away with it because there was nowhere for Ben to throw. Amazing. The entire secondary played lights out. You can't give one guy the ball on that unit. Haden, Skrine and Williams all had absolute monster games. They kept a fresh guy on Brown the whole game. Hopefully this wasn't a fluke. Hoyer is amazing. I want Manziel to learn everything from this guy for a couple years. How amazing would it be to start a real pedigree at QB here in Cleveland? I hope they don't do something impulsive like trade Manziel. I hope Manziel himself realizes he just might be in a "really" good situation here learning from a guy like Hoyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taco918 Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 Awful thread title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 Defensively the front 7 looked bad today, but got away with it because there was nowhere for Ben to throw. Amazing. The entire secondary played lights out. You can't give one guy the ball on that unit. Haden, Skrine and Williams all had absolute monster games. They kept a fresh guy on Brown the whole game. Hopefully this wasn't a fluke. Hoyer is amazing. I want Manziel to learn everything from this guy for a couple years. How amazing would it be to start a real pedigree at QB here in Cleveland? I hope they don't do something impulsive like trade Manziel. I hope Manziel himself realizes he just might be in a "really" good situation here learning from a guy like Hoyer. I guarantee Jerrah is gonna come calling and try to get JM away from Cleveland for a song and a dance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tml1138 Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 I caught a bit of the 11 o-clock news post-interview highlights. I laughed when Hoyer said he got a bit bored towards the end of the game. Calling the Steelers boring?...love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 How amazing would it be to start a real pedigree at QB here in Cleveland? Pedigree? Well, you just managed to make the thread title look a lot better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manzier Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 I guarantee Jerrah is gonna come calling and try to get JM away from Cleveland for a song and a dance. He may come calling, but Farmer wont let him go for a song and dance. How about 2 first round picks ??? Pettine was interviewed by Peter King just YESTERDAY and said JFF is ahead of schedule, playing great and STILL the future for Cleveland. What I take from that is we aint trading him and we aint playing him until something bad happens with Hoyer. Heck it could be a few years before we see him, assuming Hoyer stays healthy. The only way I see that changing is if Connor Shaw quietly grows into the backup roll behind the scenes. But there is no "public" reason to downgrade JFF, as he hasn't played. So, IF anyone comes calling, we should play it like he is our future and worth MANY MANY draft picks or we keep him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted October 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 Pedigree? Well, you just managed to make the thread title look a lot better... yeah, you know...passing the torch from one guy to the next. Like how the Steelers have done in the past with their LB'ers. Still think Jones and Shazier are going to annoy Browns fans for years to come, we'll see. But at least in the past there was never a drop off at LB'er for them because one group of players would hand off to the next. I'd like to see that with the whole team obviously but at QB would be awesome. I really hope they don't trade Manziel because I think studying under Hoyer for a couple years is exactly what that kid needs so that when it is his turn, he'll hit the ground absolutely in full stride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 Resign Brian and keep Johnny. Johnny gets to sit, learn and mature, while providing pressure on Brian to keep playing at a high level. Now, if someone offers us a ridiculous amount, then all bets are off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted October 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 Frankly I don't see Dallas Cowboy 1st round draft picks being worth much for years to come. They've got something brewing there. Historically I've never really liked the Cowboys, can't stand Jones.....but Romo, always like him. I kind of hope Romo gets a ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted October 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 Well if we're gonna treat him like the future, which we should, no one is going to offer us anything remotely close to what that's worth. I finally feel good about the Browns QB situation Resign Brian and keep Johnny. Johnny gets to sit, learn and mature, while providing pressure on Brian to keep playing at a high level. Now, if someone offers us a ridiculous amount, then all bets are off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 But Romo has no pedigree... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted October 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 Well this is why Jerry wanted Manziel so bad....he knows Romo is nearing, but certainly not imminently, the end of his career. He wants a kid like Manziel to study under Romo for the last couple years of Romo's career. He's right, that's the way it should be done. Remains to be seen if his sons act of snatching Johnny's draft card out of Jerry's hand works out. If Manziel hits the ground running after Hoyer passes off to him...Jerry's gonna toss his boy out the office window. But Romo has no pedigree... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 I guarantee Jerrah is gonna come calling and try to get JM away from Cleveland for a song and a dance. Not a snowballs chance of that anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenew23 Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 Defensively the front 7 looked bad today, but got away with it because there was nowhere for Ben to throw. Amazing. The entire secondary played lights out. You can't give one guy the ball on that unit. Haden, Skrine and Williams all had absolute monster games. They kept a fresh guy on Brown the whole game. Hopefully this wasn't a fluke. Hoyer is amazing. I want Manziel to learn everything from this guy for a couple years. How amazing would it be to start a real pedigree at QB here in Cleveland? I hope they don't do something impulsive like trade Manziel. I hope Manziel himself realizes he just might be in a "really" good situation here learning from a guy like Hoyer. Front 7 played exacly like they planned to. The D focused on coverage, and less pass-rush. Ben has always been better when the rushes get to him because then he extends plays. If you force him to stay in the pocket, he can be very average which we saw yesterday. Other than being gashed in the running game, the D played well. I think this is our winning gameplan. Give up some rushing yards, but reduce the big-play. Until we have more consistent pass-rush getting to the QB, we have to focus on minimizing the other teams points off big plays... just my 2 cents... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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