Exactly what I've been talking about....

[calfoxwc]

https://www.ammoland.com/2017/07/covert-war-freedom/?utm_source=Ammoland+Subscribers&utm_campaign=ae2c7488d1-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_6f6fac3eaa-ae2c7488d1-20770865#axzz4n6KwSdXn

 

"Trump's election helped to prevent the Left from taking-over the US. The Right has become the protectors of freedom on Earth in our time."

 

The socialist deep state will not quit fighting, for if they did quit, their entire life's philosophy would be destroyed and lost."

[MLD Woody]

God, you eat that up, don't you?

[marcus]

 

https://www.ammoland.com/2017/07/covert-war-freedom/?utm_source=Ammoland+Subscribers&utm_campaign=ae2c7488d1-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_6f6fac3eaa-ae2c7488d1-20770865#axzz4n6KwSdXn

 

"Trump's election helped to prevent the Left from taking-over the US. The Right has become the protectors of freedom on Earth in our time."

The socialist deep state will not quit fighting, for if they did quit, their entire life's philosophy would be destroyed and lost."

My take is both side's lust for control are equally dangerous. Both should be seeking out balance but neither seem to be interested in that and there in lies the problem.

 

I'd be for an all "right" or "left" government if the goal was to restore balance and one side relinquish some power to maintain balance but it'll never be. The concept of our government was to have balance and to listen to one another. Now all either side does is wait to talk.

[MLD Woody]

Um, Marcus, I think you meant to say the Right are the protectors of freedom on Earth.

[marcus]

Um, Marcus, I think you meant to say the Right are the protectors of freedom on Earth.

No what I said was both sides' lust for power and absence of forward thinking towards finding common ground is what is sinking the ship.

 

The right and the left has done little to move us forward as a nation. However when something good happens both sides want to put their names on it. Victory has a thousand fathers and defeat is an orphan.

[MLD Woody]

(I agree with you completely)

[calfoxwc]

God, you eat that up, don't you?

woodypeckerhead again. you can't stop, can you?

[tiamat63]

woodypeckerhead again. you can't stop, can you?

Honestly, Woody is your best friend. If it wasn't for him you'd have a record number of threads with non responses. I'd take some time to appreciate him if I were you.

[DieHardBrownsFan]

Honestly, Woody is your best friend. If it wasn't for him you'd have a record number of threads with non responses. I'd take some time to appreciate him if I were you.

[calfoxwc]

No what I said was both sides' lust for power and absence of forward thinking towards finding common ground is what is sinking the ship.

 

The right and the left has done little to move us forward as a nation. However when something good happens both sides want to put their names on it. Victory has a thousand fathers and defeat is an orphan.

I disagree - not buying that "both sides" biz, at least, for the most part.

 

the dems passed obaMaodoesn'tcare bigtime as a group, often admitting they never read it. They passed it strictly

politically, greedy with the desire for power, bigtime huge bragging rights on "look what we did, vote for us".

The trouble is, now that some years have passed...it's a disaster. a freaking disaster. In colorado, premiums will

go up 27 percent next year....I think it was some state out west that the premiums will go up 43 percent... exchanges are failing

across the country....

 

that's stupid.

 

the reps see it as failing, the whole country knows it, it's blowing up, and now the reps have their turn. The

difference is that the reps are serious and arguing amongst themselves and haven't figured out the right way

to create a real hc system. The reps allow dissent - and they are genuinely trying to solve the problem.

 

If the reps were like the dems, they would have passed Trumpacare unanimously early on. Remember Biden gloating

"this was a big fO&*^Y deal..." ? It got them mad lefty voter base dedication. It was just a stupid lame attempt at

just what it accomplished - votes. But obamaocare solved nothing, created a lot of problems.

 

The reps never went apecrap brownshirt when they lost the election. The dems have.

 

"same" nothin. A cold war...a civil cold war has been started by the left, and they have pushed it too far for us to

go back to "taking turns" at the helm.

[calfoxwc]

Honestly, Woody is your best friend. If it wasn't for him you'd have a record number of threads with non responses. I'd take some time to appreciate him if I were you.

Is that pelosi and warren are Trump's best friends? Schumer doomer is a "best friend" to the NRA ?

The kkk is the "best friend" to black folks?

 

nah. If I wanted a lot of discussion in all the threads I start, I'd pretend to be a liberal leftwing marxist gay somebietch

hater.

 

But that would make me sick in about one minute or less, so that is out.

[MLD Woody]

Earth's Freedom Fighters

[marcus]

I disagree - not buying that "both sides" biz, at least, for the most part.

 

the dems passed obaMaodoesn'tcare bigtime as a group, often admitting they never read it. They passed it strictly

politically, greedy with the desire for power, bigtime huge bragging rights on "look what we did, vote for us".

The trouble is, now that some years have passed...it's a disaster. a freaking disaster. In colorado, premiums will

go up 27 percent next year....I think it was some state out west that the premiums will go up 43 percent... exchanges are failing

across the country....

 

that's stupid.

 

the reps see it as failing, the whole country knows it, it's blowing up, and now the reps have their turn. The

difference is that the reps are serious and arguing amongst themselves and haven't figured out the right way

to create a real hc system. The reps allow dissent - and they are genuinely trying to solve the problem.

 

If the reps were like the dems, they would have passed Trumpacare unanimously early on. Remember Biden gloating

"this was a big fO&*^Y deal..." ? It got them mad lefty voter base dedication. It was just a stupid lame attempt at

just what it accomplished - votes. But obamaocare solved nothing, created a lot of problems.

 

The reps never went apecrap brownshirt when they lost the election. The dems have.

 

"same" nothin. A cold war...a civil cold war has been started by the left, and they have pushed it too far for us to

go back to "taking turns" at the helm.

The same could be said about the housing crisis that's being said about Obamacare. Bush and the Neo Conservatives created the housing bubble by allowing the banks to have a free for all. Despite all the warnings from "real" conservatives. But the same was said circa 2004. "Look even you can have a house even though you don't have a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of." "By the way...we can count your on vote come November?"

 

On another note, balance has zero to do with who's at the helm. I want a Congress and Senate that knows they have more important things to worry about than some emails or who talked to what Russian.

 

I want a Congress and Senate to pass a tax that every person in the U.S. has to pay when they purchase something. I want the Fed Audited and systematically dismantled with our wealth returned to where it belongs, the U.S. Treasury. So that maybe just maybe when we print money it actually has a value attached to it.

 

All this idiotic drivel in Washington is insulting to our intelligence. When are we going to see our representatives actually represent us with the goal of moving all of us forward no matter what side of the political fence we stupidly cling to.

 

Allegiance to either side doesn't strike me as something either House has earned regardless of political affiliation.

[calfoxwc]

gol dang, Marcus. I don't buy that either. Blaming Bush for the housing bubble is nonsense - it started under Bill Clinton.

 

and it wasn't all the dem's fault....either.

 

http://www.factcheck.org/2008/10/who-caused-the-economic-crisis/

 

More succinctly, however, is that it wasn't Bush's fault..not a bit as it was Clinton's fault.

 

https://spectator.org/42211_true-origins-financial-crisis/

 

"There really isn’t any question of which approach is factually correct: right on the front page of the Times edition of December 21 is a chart that shows the growth of home ownership in the United States since 1990. In 1993 it was 63 percent; by the end of the Clinton administration it was 68 percent. The growth in the Bush administration was about 1 percent. The Times itself reported in 1999 that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were under pressure from the Clinton administration to increase lending to minorities and low-income home buyers–a policy that necessarily entailed higher risks. Can there really be a question, other than in the fevered imagination of the Times, where the push to reduce lending standards and boost home ownership came from?

The fact is that neither political party, and no administration, is blameless; the honest answer, as outlined below, is that government policy over many years caused this problem. The regulators, in both the Clinton and Bush administrations, were the enforcers of the reduced lending standards that were essential to the growth in home ownership and the housing bubble."

[calfoxwc]

now, guess who was forcing the lowering of the housing load standards, to create more affordable housing, to those

who couldn't qualify for loans previously...

 

None other than barney frank, major dem in Congress.

 

https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2011/12/hey-barney-frank-the-government-did-cause-the-housing-crisis/249903/

[marcus]

All I've gone on is my personal experiences and I was 10-18 years old through the Clinton Administration so my understanding of the housing market was little to none. However, in 2004 I remember a huge real estate push. There were many people talking about this bubble and sure enough it burst during the Bush administration. So maybe blaming him alone is a bit nearsighted.

 

I will tell you this though. What you showed me confirms my point about this being a bi partisan problem. Much like everything else in this country. Solutions near the middle with both conservative and liberal elements are the best ones. But with both sides at there respective extremes, everything is gridlocked and nothing is getting accomplished. I doubt that's by accident either but who knows.

[calfoxwc]

yes, it is bipartisan, hadn't meant to say anything else...

 

for every action, there is a reaction, and too many people (especially dems, lol) don't consider the reactions part.

[StinkHole]

Stuart

 

Democrats and liberals never solve problems, they only create new ones...from the tragedy that the welfare system has become all the way down to tainting girls athletics by letting a boy who thinks hes a girl compete on a girls track team.

 

Democrats have no interest in meeting half way. It's always been their way or the highway. They shoved down our throats the disaster called Obamacare rejecting every republican alternative or idea that was presented.

 

Now Republicans will be the bad guys for not being able to fix the mess the democrats created. See how that works?

[calfoxwc]

because the dems want all the power, permanently, they don't believe in sharing power, not for a second.

 

and they will lie, false narrative, threaten, malign, and change word definitions on the fly, and interpret any law

to their benefit...etc etc etc..

 

to get and keep it. They know their base is the gov entitlement crowd, and they have been swelling those ranks

with inviting illegals for years, even to the point of the obamao/holder crowd fighting tooth and nail to kick

a nice Christian family who came here to home-school their kids...which was illegal in Germany...OUT of our country.

 

That tells the tale right there.

[FairHooker11]

No what I said was both sides' lust for power and absence of forward thinking towards finding common ground is what is sinking the ship.

 

The right and the left has done little to move us forward as a nation. However when something good happens both sides want to put their names on it. Victory has a thousand fathers and defeat is an orphan.

 

John F Kennedy said that victory quote....

 

if he were alive today, he wouldve switched to being a republican in the 80's then to a disgusted independent shortly after GWBush

[marcus]

 

John F Kennedy said that victory quote....

 

if he were alive today, he wouldve switched to being a republican in the 80's then to a disgusted independent shortly after GWBush

I don't think you're too far off.

[TexasAg1969]

Stuart

 

Democrats and liberals never solve problems, they only create new ones...from the tragedy that the welfare system has become all the way down to tainting girls athletics by letting a boy who thinks hes a girl compete on a girls track team.

 

Democrats have no interest in meeting half way. It's always been their way or the highway. They shoved down our throats the disaster called Obamacare rejecting every republican alternative or idea that was presented.

 

Now Republicans will be the bad guys for not being able to fix the mess the democrats created. See how that works?

 

LOL! And the mess we are in with the Russian bought presidency? I'm sure our eventual surrender will all be on the former Democratic party rather than the former Republican party when we get renamed Trumpistan as a part of the "new" Soviet World Union. You guys need to get off your high horse and realize our democracy is being given away while you bury your heads in the sand on side issues. Start listening to McCain and Graham, two Republicans who are trying to protect you from the treacherous malignancy in the W.H. You will eventually forget Benedict Arnold when all is said and done.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trumps-breathtaking-surrender-to-russia/2017/07/20/bde94e10-6d6c-11e7-96ab-5f38140b38cc_story.html?utm_term=.b4ec0fd4183f

 

https://newrepublic.com/article/143586/trumps-russian-laundromat-trump-tower-luxury-high-rises-dirty-money-international-crime-syndicate

 

Where are the true Reaganites who know we are still dealing with the Evil Empire? Shame on you for not seeing what is happening under this selfish traitor.

[Westside Steve]

These assholes don't give any more of a fuck about the Russians then the republicans did about Bill Clinton getting his Dick sucked or participating in a dirty land deal in Arkansas. Just chickenshit partisan politics any Avenue to fuck with the opponent.

Just the disgusting face of politics no matter which side you look at it.

 

WSS

[calfoxwc]

obamao was happy to keep the russian hacking a secret...didn't want to

taint higgardly's win.

 

But our PRes Trump won. Now they are raising hell. After the dems doing nothing about

BEnghazi and Crimea, etc etc etc.......

 

there is no reason why the russians would not favor higgardly being the next pres.

[marcus]

These assholes don't give any more of a fuck about the Russians then the republicans did about Bill Clinton getting his Dick sucked or participating in a dirty land deal in Arkansas. Just chickenshit partisan politics any Avenue to fuck with the opponent.

Just the disgusting face of politics no matter which side you look at it.

 

WSS

^^^^^^^THIS!!!!!

[DieHardBrownsFan]

 

LOL! And the mess we are in with the Russian bought presidency? I'm sure our eventual surrender will all be on the former Democratic party rather than the former Republican party when we get renamed Trumpistan as a part of the "new" Soviet World Union. You guys need to get off your high horse and realize our democracy is being given away while you bury your heads in the sand on side issues. Start listening to McCain and Graham, two Republicans who are trying to protect you from the treacherous malignancy in the W.H. You will eventually forget Benedict Arnold when all is said and done.

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trumps-breathtaking-surrender-to-russia/2017/07/20/bde94e10-6d6c-11e7-96ab-5f38140b38cc_story.html?utm_term=.b4ec0fd4183f

 

https://newrepublic.com/article/143586/trumps-russian-laundromat-trump-tower-luxury-high-rises-dirty-money-international-crime-syndicate

 

Where are the true Reaganites who know we are still dealing with the Evil Empire? Shame on you for not seeing what is happening under this selfish traitor.

You have to be kidding me with you Washington Post and other references? Are you a combat veteran and really believe their bullshit? Shame the fuck on you.

[StinkHole]

No what I said was both sides' lust for power and absence of forward thinking towards finding common ground is what is sinking the ship.

 

The right and the left has done little to move us forward as a nation. However when something good happens both sides want to put their names on it. Victory has a thousand fathers and defeat is an orphan.

Stuart

 

If every conservative or Republican disappeared and the country were left to only liberals it would implode.

 

I could just imagine compassionate liberals like Woodley and Cleve debating on who gets to give more of their money to baby producing ghetto mamas, or to the newly passed black reparations bill.

Oh you white guilt liberals...what will you do when blacks continue to blame their problems on white racism and the only white people around are you assholes.

 

If the country were made up of only conservatives it would thrive.

[marcus]

Stuart

 

If every conservative or Republican disappeared and the country were left to only liberals it would implode.

 

I could just imagine compassionate liberals like Woodley and Cleve debating on who gets to give more of their money to baby producing ghetto mamas, or to the newly passed black reparations bill.

Oh you white guilt liberals...what will you do when blacks continue to blame their problems on white racism and the only white people around are you assholes.

 

If the country were made up of only conservatives it would thrive.

That's the way you see it. I prefer balance you prefer dominance. I don't understand what's wrong with wanting a more balanced government and the aimless infighting to stop. It's wasting time and stealing our attention from everything thing that matters.

 

You somehow seem to view this thought process as liberalism or favoring liberlism. Wanting things to be balanced and for the government to shrink to an acceptable level, leans more to the conservative side of things I would think.

[Westside Steve]

That's the way you see it. I prefer balance you prefer dominance. I don't understand what's wrong with wanting a more balanced government and the aimless infighting to stop. It's wasting time and stealing our attention from everything thing that matters.

 

You somehow seem to view this thought process as liberalism or favoring liberlism. Wanting things to be balanced and for the government to shrink to an acceptable level, leans more to the conservative side of things I would think.

I get your point but doesn't it seem that the most liberal places, States and cities et cetera are the ones always-on the brink of collapse? More crime ridden more poverty closer to bankruptcy?

WSS

[marcus]

I get your point but doesn't it seem that the most liberal places, States and cities et cetera are the ones always-on the brink of collapse? More crime ridden more poverty closer to bankruptcy?

WSS

That may be the case but I find it difficult to believe that there isn't a small group of liberals and conservatives that can generally get on the same page.