gftChris Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 Well, I'm trying to get the main issue people are having. Whether that's where he's going, the tax payer's expense, or just the vacation in general. If its about the taxpayer, understanding what we're billed for is important to understand IMO It's not the tax payer. Or, it shouldn't be. Did you miss my explanation a page or two back where I broke down the potential points? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 It's not the tax payer. Or, it shouldn't be. Did you miss my explanation a page or two back where I broke down the potential points? Party of income inequality vs spending a lot of money on vacations? Correct? I guess my previous posting is referencing both the issues with the vacation brought up in the OP, as well as those that have been brought up since then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 omg he's doing African line dancing, fuck he must hate us and be mooslim. For sure. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Et5znArBwHs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 . After which he can return to the White House and scold rich people for not being sensitive and having too much money. WSS but he doesn't do that.. Hasn't ever done that. If you're not smart enough to parse the difference between "hey you guys should pay a greater share of taxes since you're worth more" and "hey you guys shouldn't make as much money as you do, calm down with that".....than I dunno dude how do you tie your shoes in the morning? Whether you agree or not agree with liberals wanting rich people to pay more % of their income to taxes, something I don't necessarily agree with btw....I still understand the actual argument being made because, I dunno...I think more? I analyze more? I really am at a loss anymore to explain some of you guys intrinsic lack of perception. Disagreeing with people is one thing, completely whiffing on their point is an entirely different thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 Depends. If his vacation is in his back yard, that's probably all expensable. If it's 4 months in Bora Bora, probably he's going to pay for that himself a bit. Why does it matter? You're not understanding his question from the standpoint of his debate with steve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 What part does the president pay for and what part do the taxpayers pay for? If I were to guess, we got stuck with the whole bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 The question wasn't where can he go. Thr question was where can he go and still talk about income inequality. What vacation would you be ok with him taking if he were to return and talk about a growing income gap? Or is he just not allowed to talk about that at all because he's well off? Asked and answered. He can go Laurie wants and say what he wants and his acolytes will support him. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 but he doesn't do that.. Hasn't ever done that. If you're not smart enough to parse the difference between "hey you guys should pay a greater share of taxes since you're worth more" and "hey you guys shouldn't make as much money as you do, calm down with that".....than I dunno dude how do you tie your shoes in the morning? Whether you agree or not agree with liberals wanting rich people to pay more % of their income to taxes, something I don't necessarily agree with btw....I still understand the actual argument being made because, I dunno...I think more? I analyze more? I really am at a loss anymore to explain some of you guys intrinsic lack of perception. Disagreeing with people is one thing, completely whiffing on their point is an entirely different thing. https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2015/02/02/obama-budget-seek-stabilize-deficit-address-income-inequality/R9TYMVAZHxiw0iDiFJvheL/story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 The question wasn't where can he go. Thr question was where can he go and still talk about income inequality. What vacation would you be ok with him taking if he were to return and talk about a growing income gap? Or is he just not allowed to talk about that at all because he's well off? Something that can be covered by the wages of "the regular guy" that he seems to try to play to while bagging on anyone who is "rich". I expect to see the Obamas at King's Island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 If I were to guess, we got stuck with the whole bill. I believe he pays for everything a "normal" person would pay for (food, lodging, etc) while we pay for all of the additional "president stuff". Like Air Force 1, secret service, etc. I imagine the latter is the bulk of it too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 Something that can be covered by the wages of "the regular guy" that he seems to try to play to while bagging on anyone who is "rich". I expect to see the Obamas at King's Island. That sounds like it would end badly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 I believe he pays for everything a "normal" person would pay for (food, lodging, etc) while we pay for all of the additional "president stuff". Like Air Force 1, secret service, etc. I imagine the latter is the bulk of it too That doesn't cover that the Obamas are taking expensive vacations, whining about rich people, then fitting everyone with a very expensive bill for security relating to these expensive vacations that only 1%s are supposed to go on. I really hate hypocrisy and that applies to both sides of the political coin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 That sounds like it would end badly. Does the Pres hate funnel cake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 That doesn't cover that the Obamas are taking expensive vacations, whining about rich people, then fitting everyone with a very expensive bill for security relating to these expensive vacations that only 1%s are supposed to go on. I really hate hypocrisy and that applies to both sides of the political coin. I was just referring to your post that we front the entire cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 I was just referring to your post that we front the entire cost. I still highly doubt that any president covers their vacations. They have to rent out entire hotels for security purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 I still highly doubt that any president covers their vacations. They have to rent out entire hotels for security purposes. Back to Kings Mountain being a bad idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 Back to Kings Mountain being a bad idea They could enjoy three roller coasters on the edge of the park! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 Cedar Point or GTFO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2015/02/02/obama-budget-seek-stabilize-deficit-address-income-inequality/R9TYMVAZHxiw0iDiFJvheL/story.html ok I read that, did you? It says at the end he's looking to lower the corporate tax rates for companies that stay here and produce jobs here. Even more for manufacturing companies. Sooooo....you're saying I was right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 I see you still don't understand. Ok. Then I think he should visit his grandparents in his town of birth back in Kenya. WSS Isn't a trip to Africa expensive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 ok I read that, did you? It says at the end he's looking to lower the corporate tax rates for companies that stay here and produce jobs here. Even more for manufacturing companies. Sooooo....you're saying I was right? You said he never griped about the income gap. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 Isn't a trip to Africa expensive? Maybe, we could make it one way? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted August 25, 2015 Report Share Posted August 25, 2015 Maybe, we could make it one way? WSS That would save the taxpayers some cash Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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