gftChris Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 Title says it all really. http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/32895057 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 The question came to my mind as to why it is the USA that would be leading this investigation and doing the prosecuting, but then it was explained that the payoff/bribery money was laundered through US banks....thus giving the US jurisdiction over the major criminal issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted May 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 The swiss attorney general has now opened proceedings relating to the award of the 2018 and 2022 world cups, to Russia and Qatar respectively. If there are kickbacks to be found, they'll be in those two processes, I'm guessing. I mean come on, Qatar? With 2m people, a dry state (so pissing off the WC's bigger sponsors like Budweiser), slave labour being used, awful human rights record, now being switched to winter instead of summer, despite ruling that out in the bidding process - this is the place we want to shine a light on and say is a bastion of international soccer? The less said about Russia, the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 The swiss attorney general has now opened proceedings relating to the award of the 2018 and 2022 world cups, to Russia and Qatar respectively. If there are kickbacks to be found, they'll be in those two processes, I'm guessing. I mean come on, Qatar? With 2m people, a dry state (so pissing off the WC's bigger sponsors like Budweiser), slave labour being used, awful human rights record, now being switched to winter instead of summer, despite ruling that out in the bidding process - this is the place we want to shine a light on and say is a bastion of international soccer? The less said about Russia, the better. I suspect bribery and money committed was a main issue on why those places got the WC....but I also think FIFA wanted to be "inclusive"....to other parts of the world. In the past the WCs have been held in Europe 11 times, South America 5 times, N. America 3 times (twice Mexico, 1 time US), Asia (S. Korea) once, (South) Africa once. Never in the middle east.....never in Russia (or any former Soviet state). I can understand that. But they should be able to do the process without bribery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted May 27, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 They also turned down bids from Australia and other places that haven't had it before. I think a wc down under would be amazing. Now you have Qatar where it's no booze, no gays, no kissing, definitely no gays kissing, slave Labour, intense heat and all the other shut things going on in that place. The wc was on a rotation - Europe, elsewhere, repeat. Now I think it is changing to Europe, elsewhere, elsewhere, repeat, so 2026 should be somewhere outside Europe again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted May 27, 2015 Report Share Posted May 27, 2015 They also turned down bids from Australia and other places that haven't had it before. I think a wc down under would be amazing. Now you have Qatar where it's no booze, no gays, no kissing, definitely no gays kissing, slave Labour, intense heat and all the other shut things going on in that place. The wc was on a rotation - Europe, elsewhere, repeat. Now I think it is changing to Europe, elsewhere, elsewhere, repeat, so 2026 should be somewhere outside Europe again. Do you/they consider Russia "Europe"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Corruption in a sports organization, I'm shocked Let's not make Qatar out to be Iran. Qatar has the highest GDP per capita and 14% of their population are millionaires. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Corruption in a sports organization, I'm shocked Let's not make Qatar out to be Iran. Qatar has the highest GDP per capita and 14% of their population are millionaires. Of course they are the richest country. They hate EVERY person, unless they are male and rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted May 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Do you/they consider Russia "Europe"? In football terms,yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted May 28, 2015 Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Just goes to prove that soccer is a corrupt gay sport. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted May 28, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 28, 2015 Just goes to prove that soccer is a corrupt gay sport. Roger Goodell would love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 Of course they are the richest country. They hate EVERY person, unless they are male and rich Sounds like our Founding Fathers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted May 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 Something I neglected to add - the elections for FIFA presidency are happening today, now. There were calls for it to be postponed until this was all resolved, but no. There were calls for Blatter (incumbent) to resign, as any disgraced leader would, be it politics or business or whatever, but no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 Something I neglected to add - the elections for FIFA presidency are happening today, now. There were calls for it to be postponed until this was all resolved, but no. There were calls for Blatter (incumbent) to resign, as any disgraced leader would, be it politics or business or whatever, but no. I hear he got re-elected. Fox watching the henhouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted May 29, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 Yep. Not shocked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted May 29, 2015 Report Share Posted May 29, 2015 I wonder what the guy that withdrew got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted May 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2015 I wonder what the guy that withdrew got. The antidote, probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted May 31, 2015 Report Share Posted May 31, 2015 I wonder what the guy that withdrew got. I believe he needed 2/3s in the first round but fell considerably short. To save face he withdrew, not uncommon I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted June 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 I believe he needed 2/3s in the first round but fell considerably short. To save face he withdrew, not uncommon I guess. yeah pretty much. The election goes something like: First round - if anyone gets a 2/3 majority they win, stop. Otherwise, eliminate candidates who got under x% of the vote (don't remember how much) and proceed to round 2. Second round - if any of the remaining candidates get more than 50%, they win, stop. Otherwise, rinse and repeat by removing the lowest scoring candidate until someone gets a majority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted June 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 And this just in, South Africa made a $10m definitely-not-a-bribe-but-just-to-say-thanks-ahead-of-time payment to FIFA, to host the world cup in 2010, which in a completely unrelated turn of events was redistributed to the association of the head of the central america association, who then in an unforeseeable turn of events managed to convince all the members in his jurisdiction to vote for south africa. Seems legit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted June 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 I know it probably doesn't get so much traction over there, but the world of soccer is currently thanking the FBI very, very much for having the balls to do what everyone else should have done a long time ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 How Blatter has the front to not only not resign, but to again stand up and want to be re-elected is beyond me. FIFA are a disgrace and the WC in Qatar the poster boy for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Gipper Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 And this just in, South Africa made a $10m definitely-not-a-bribe-but-just-to-say-thanks-ahead-of-time payment to FIFA, to host the world cup in 2010, which in a completely unrelated turn of events was redistributed to the association of the head of the central america association, who then in an unforeseeable turn of events managed to convince all the members in his jurisdiction to vote for south africa. Seems legit. You say that money was paid to FIFA....but what I understand is that the payments in question went directly to the Administrators to the tune of millions of dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 I know it probably doesn't get so much traction over there, but the world of soccer is currently thanking the FBI very, very much for having the balls to do what everyone else should have done a long time ago. The World of soccer may be giving thanks....but not the soccer world. If they did then Blatter would be aufed. But....I hear that he may not be out of the woods yet in terms of indictment. Though this very much has a Jimmy Haslam like ring to it, no? The underlings fall on their swords, the top guy gets to stay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted June 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 You say that money was paid to FIFA....but what I understand is that the payments in question went directly to the Administrators to the tune of millions of dollars. The money was withheld from a payment by FIFA to the SA FA. That money was then re-distributed, at the request of the SA FA to Jack Warner and concacaf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted June 1, 2015 Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Criminal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted June 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 1, 2015 Criminal. That's what the FBI is trying to show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted June 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Sepp Blatter, president for the last ~20 years and main 'Jimmy Haslam clone' at FIFA is resigning. I know most of you don't know how amazing this news is, but everybody I know is so, so happy with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted June 2, 2015 Report Share Posted June 2, 2015 Sepp Blatter, president for the last ~20 years and main 'Jimmy Haslam clone' at FIFA is resigning. I know most of you don't know how amazing this news is, but everybody I know is so, so happy with this. So, you say Blatter is stepping down? Who is going to replace him? Ali Haji Sheikh? (Ask Woody why that would make him happy). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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