Clevfan4life Posted April 11, 2016 Report Share Posted April 11, 2016 I didnt see the whole game but from what i saw jimmy butler was all over him like a cheap suit. In a 7 game series if they put butler on him full tome theyd nullify lebron except maybe when he brings the ball up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 Who will be Cavs first round opponent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted April 12, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 The Bulls didn't make the playoffs. The 1st round will be either Detoilet or Indiana. Also I don't think LeBron is done. He just scored 34 points on 13-16 shooting and he didn't even play in the forth quarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 The Bulls didn't make the playoffs. The 1st round will be either Detoilet or Indiana. Also I don't think LeBron is done. He just scored 34 points on 13-16 shooting and he didn't even play in the forth quarter. I should clarify he's done against elite and sub elite opponents. He'll still score his points against the lesser teams but it's all brute force for him now. He looks like he's having a heck of a time getting off his own shot. I saw him resort to the nowitski knee up against Butler. That's bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted April 12, 2016 Report Share Posted April 12, 2016 I should clarify he's done against elite and sub elite opponents. He'll still score his points against the lesser teams but it's all brute force for him now. He looks like he's having a heck of a time getting off his own shot. I saw him resort to the nowitski knee up against Butler. That's bad. Lebron is a great player but he's in the twilight of his career. Playing around 1200 career games is the key number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 Cavs are done. Bulls game proved it. Playoffs are around the corner and the cavs are not even close to peaking. Cavs need to be able to beat teams like the bulls on pure scheme, almost be able to sleepwalk through the game. Everything is a fight....they wont hold up till the finals. Lebrons done too, legs are gone. If he gets steam going from the arc he can still freight train to the hoop but thats it. His finesse skills are completely gone. No legs. His lateral quickness has vanished If his legs are gone he's currently doing a great Charles Barkley imitation. You may have missed it but his 3 point jumper has returned. The Bulls game proved the Cavs Bench blew dead worms, like horrible. Irving was off too. You can't pin that loss on LeBron. Lebron is a great player but he's in the twilight of his career. Playing around 1200 career games is the key number. In minutes played, LeBron just entered the top 40. Kobe is 200+ 48 minute games ahead of him. James may not be considered the greatest player in the NBA anymore- but fer sure, he's still in the top 5. He's probably got around 3 more years before Father Time seriously catches up with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 had we retained wiggins Lebron could have played at a high level till he was 40. Oh well. In any case yeah I didn't see his jumpers returned. From what I've seen his arc is flat and he's barely coming off the ground. If he's getting some set shots in from the arc that's great but he's not gonna see those nor make many of em in the playoffs. He has to shoot a legit jump shot or he's done. If the cavs don't win this year and make an early exit, i'd tear it up. Maybe keep the big 3 but we need to get a guy in Cleveland that's basically Lebrons protégé. That should have been Wiggins but whatever we need a guy like that to come in and take serious minutes off Lebron till the playoffs for the rest of Lebrons career. Lebron has to get his legs back or it's going to be an ugly ugly end to the guys career. Kobe is a lighter guy so he was able to get by albeit not that well cause of those Achilles tears. If not for those injuries Kobe would probably still look a few steps slower right now but he'd still be considered among the best players in the game. But same thing with him in LA, they never got anybody to really take minutes off him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted April 13, 2016 Report Share Posted April 13, 2016 had we retained wiggins Lebron could have played at a high level till he was 40. Oh well. In any case yeah I didn't see his jumpers returned. From what I've seen his arc is flat and he's barely coming off the ground. If he's getting some set shots in from the arc that's great but he's not gonna see those nor make many of em in the playoffs. He has to shoot a legit jump shot or he's done. If the cavs don't win this year and make an early exit, i'd tear it up. Maybe keep the big 3 but we need to get a guy in Cleveland that's basically Lebrons protégé. That should have been Wiggins but whatever we need a guy like that to come in and take serious minutes off Lebron till the playoffs for the rest of Lebrons career. Lebron has to get his legs back or it's going to be an ugly ugly end to the guys career. Kobe is a lighter guy so he was able to get by albeit not that well cause of those Achilles tears. If not for those injuries Kobe would probably still look a few steps slower right now but he'd still be considered among the best players in the game. But same thing with him in LA, they never got anybody to really take minutes off him. EDIT: Get his legs back? Care to bet me LeBron can still elevate a good two + feet over the rim? Not so much getting his legs back- (he still moves mighty fast in the open court) but the physical pounding his body is taking year in and year out with all those drives to the hoop. He gets positively mugged nearly every time. Looks like a rugby scrum. The older you get, the easier is is to get hurt. What's going to be LeBrons end is when he can't out quick defenders to the basket. MHO to have a shot in the Finals- assuming the Cavs even get there is- besides LeBron, the rest of the team has to show up. The talent is there, but the Cavs can't have Kyrie, Love, JR, and Frye tossing up bricks from beyond the arc. Most of Cleveland's recent losses are directly attributable to that. PS I'll still put my money on James to pass Kobe in career points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted April 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 LeBron James is the LEAST of the Cavs problems. They get atleast 1 day off after each game, and sometimes 2 days. The problem I see with the Cavs is Kyrie and Love both have games where they play like crap. Those 2 need to be more consistent and play to there potential, and the Cavs will make the finals without a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted April 16, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2016 By the way, LeBron was named the player of the month, for the 3rd straight month. He's not the problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Cavs have the easiest road to the final and if Lebron, Love and Irving are all playing at a high level the pressure of being in the Finals alone give them a punchers chance at a title. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Cavs have the easiest road to the final and if Lebron, Love and Irving are all playing at a high level the pressure of being in the Finals alone give them a punchers chance at a title. If all three are healthy for the championship I think it's a little better than a puncher's chance. Lebron is still one of the smartest and most talented men in the game. I don't think that he will be able to be overwhelmed by the warriors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted April 19, 2016 Report Share Posted April 19, 2016 Cavs have the easiest road to the final and if Lebron, Love and Irving are all playing at a high level the pressure of being in the Finals alone give them a punchers chance at a title. If you watched the first Playoff game. LeBron, Kyrie, and Kev were all playing at a high level- and still kept everyone on the edge of their seats until the final two minutes. The problem? The perimeter defense in plain English- sucked. I don't doubt the Warriors can put up 52% from three point land like the Pistons did. Don't want to be a negative Nancy, but just calling them as I see 'em. Though I have to hope the shooting night Detroit had was an aberration, and not something they're going to be able to repeat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 Over here in UK bookmakers the Spurs are favoured over the Cavs to reach the finals Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 Over here in UK bookmakers the Spurs are favoured over the Cavs to reach the finals Do you mean to WIN the Finals? They can't be favored to make the Finals because the Spurs play in the Western Conference and the Cavs are in the Eastern Conference. Both teams can reach the Finals....and play each other. The question is, are the Spurs favo(u)red over the Warriors to reach the Finals....or vice versa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted May 8, 2016 Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 Hats off to Lebron James, Teague needs a punch. Barkley's a fucking douchebag, fake tough guy, just like Oakley called him out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted May 17, 2016 Report Share Posted May 17, 2016 Over here in UK bookmakers the Spurs are favoured over the Cavs to reach the finals As Sir Charles pointed out tonight- the Spurs have gone fishin'. Hats off to Lebron James, Teague needs a punch. Barkley's a fucking douchebag, fake tough guy, just like Oakley called him out. Barkladomus called it tonight. Had little hope for OKC, but way to go guys. Lowry and DeRozan need to score another 60+ against the Cavs. Is too much rest beneficial? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted May 25, 2016 Report Share Posted May 25, 2016 Do you mean to WIN the Finals? They can't be favored to make the Finals because the Spurs play in the Western Conference and the Cavs are in the Eastern Conference. Both teams can reach the Finals....and play each other. The question is, are the Spurs favo(u)red over the Warriors to reach the Finals....or vice versa? It was favoured to win yeah I made an error there After another loss for GSW last night though, Cavs are now the favourites to win it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted May 25, 2016 Report Share Posted May 25, 2016 It was favoured to win yeah I made an error there After another loss for GSW last night though, Cavs are now the favourites to win it all. Are they? You mean in the London betting parlors? What do they say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted May 25, 2016 Report Share Posted May 25, 2016 Are they? You mean in the London betting parlors? What do they say? Cavs 5/4 (+125) Thunder 7/4 (+175) Warriors 7/2 (+350) Raptors 40/1 (+4000) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 Warriors -200 Cavs +185 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 I hate to say it.. but Warriors in 6.. the Cavs are still a cream puff team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 Anyone know how many of those teams that came back from 3-1 down in the previous round, then went on to win the finals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 Cavs in 6. I would have said 5, but Cleveland will win it at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 Anyone know how many of those teams that came back from 3-1 down in the previous round, then went on to win the finals? Only 10 times a team has come back from 3-1 down to win a series (including GSW this year) 3 times has a team come back from 3-1 and went on to win the finals: Boston twice (68', 81') Houston once (95') Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted May 31, 2016 Report Share Posted May 31, 2016 Only 10 times a team has come back from 3-1 down to win a series (including GSW this year) 3 times has a team come back from 3-1 and went on to win the finals: Boston twice (68', 81') Houston once (95') Thanks bb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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