miktoxic Posted May 4, 2016 Report Share Posted May 4, 2016 if you are open minded and not stuck in some college football hate pool..... doesn't it just make sense as a gn to look at the best team in the ncaa that play pro-style and won the national championship and try to snag some 3-4 year starters? DUH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted May 4, 2016 Report Share Posted May 4, 2016 doesn't it just make sense as a gn to look at the best team in the ncaa that play pro-style and won the national championship and try to snag some 3-4 year starters? Are you talking about BAMA now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted May 4, 2016 Report Share Posted May 4, 2016 Ah ok. YEAR RD SEL # PLAYER POSITION TEAM 2015 2 37 Devin Smith WR New York Jets 2015 3 92 Jeff Heuerman TE Denver Broncos 2015 4 121 Doran Grant CB Pittsburgh Steelers 2015 6 180 Michael Bennett DT Jacksonville Jaguars 2015 6 187 Evan Spencer WR Washington Redskins 2014 1 15 Ryan Shazier OLB Pittsburgh Steelers 2014 1 31 Bradley Roby CB Denver Broncos 2014 2 57 Carlos Hyde RB San Francisco 49ers 2014 2 59 Jack Mewhort T Indianapolis Colts 2014 5 161 Corey Linsley C Green Bay Packers 2014 7 241 Christian Bryant DB St. Louis Rams 2013 2 49 Johnathan Hankins DT New York Giants 2013 4 129 John Simon LB Baltimore Ravens 2013 7 240 Reid Fragel OT Cincinnati Bengals 2012 2 56 Mike Adams T Pittsburgh Steelers 2012 3 68 DeVier Posey WR Houston Texans 2012 6 191 Dan Herron RB Cincinnati Bengals 2012 6 197 Nate Ebner DB New England Patriots 2011 1 31 Cameron Heyward DE Pittsburgh Steelers 2011 4 113 Chimdi Chekwa DB Oakland Raiders 2011 5 158 Jermale Hines DB St. Louis Rams 2011 6 193 Brian Rolle LB Philadelphia Eagles 2011 6 200 Ross Homan LB Minnesota Vikings 2010 4 116 Thaddeus Gibson LB Pittsburgh Steelers 2010 7 242 Doug Worthington DE Pittsburgh Steelers 2010 7 244 Kurt Coleman FS Philadelphia Eagles 2010 7 252 Austin Spitler LB Miami Dolphins 2009 1 14 Malcolm Jenkins DB New Orleans Saints 2009 1 31 Beanie Wells RB Arizona Cardinals 2009 2 35 James Laurinaitis LB St. Louis Rams 2009 2 36 Brian Robiskie WR Cleveland Browns 2009 4 102 Donald Washington DB Kansas City Chiefs 2009 4 108 Brian Hartline WR Miami Dolphins 2009 5 154 Marcus Freeman OLB Chicago Bears 2008 1 6 Vernon Gholston LB New York Jets 2008 7 214 Larry Grant OLB St. Louis Rams 2008 7 247 Kirk Barton T Cincinnati Bengals 2007 1 9 Ted Ginn Jr. WR Miami Dolphins 2007 1 32 Anthony Gonzalez WR Indianapolis Colts 2007 3 98 Quinn Pitcock DT Indianapolis Colts 2007 4 107 Antonio Pittman RB New Orleans Saints 2007 5 138 Jay Richardson DE Oakland Raiders 2007 5 169 Roy Hall WR Indianapolis Colts 2007 5 174 Troy Smith QB Baltimore Ravens 2007 6 198 Doug Datish C Atlanta Falcons 2006 1 5 A.J. Hawk OLB Green Bay Packers 2006 1 8 Donte Whitner SS Buffalo Bills 2006 1 18 Bobby Carpenter LB Dallas Cowboys 2006 1 25 Santonio Holmes WR Pittsburgh Steelers 2006 1 29 Nick Mangold C New York Jets 2006 3 70 Ashton Youboty CB Buffalo Bills 2006 3 76 Anthony Schlegel LB New York Jets 2006 4 121 Nate Salley DB Carolina Panthers 2006 4 128 Rob Sims G Seattle Seahawks 2005 2 47 Mike Nugent K New York Jets 2005 3 80 Dustin Fox DB Minnesota Vikings 2005 3 101 Maurice Clarett -- Denver Broncos 2004 1 18 Will Smith DE New Orleans Saints 2004 1 28 Chris Gamble CB Carolina Panthers 2004 1 29 Michael Jenkins WR Atlanta Falcons 2004 3 68 Ben Hartsock TE Indianapolis Colts 2004 3 74 Tim Anderson DT Buffalo Bills 2004 3 87 B.J. Sander P Green Bay Packers 2004 3 88 Darrion Scott DE Minnesota Vikings 2004 4 100 Alex Stepanovich C Arizona Cardinals 2004 4 111 Will Allen SAF Tampa Bay Buccaneers 2004 5 148 Craig Krenzel QB Chicago Bears 2004 5 163 Drew Carter WR Carolina Panthers 2004 5 165 Rob Reynolds LB Tennessee Titans 2004 7 209 Shane Olivea T San Diego Chargers 2004 7 227 Adrien Clarke G Philadelphia Eagles 2003 2 58 Mike Doss SS Indianapolis Colts 2003 3 79 Kenny Peterson DE Green Bay Packers 2003 3 86 Cie Grant LB New Orleans Saints 2003 4 112 Matt Wilhelm LB San Diego Chargers 2003 5 154 Donnie Nickey DB Tennessee Titans 2002 2 44 LeCharles Bentley G New Orleans Saints 2002 3 75 Derek Ross CB Dallas Cowboys 2002 4 99 Jonathan Wells RB Houston Texans 2002 4 122 Darnell Sanders TE Cleveland Browns 2002 4 129 Jamar Martin FB Dallas Cowboys 2002 5 167 Courtland Bullard LB St. Louis Rams 2002 6 179 Tyson Walter C Dallas Cowboys 2002 6 205 Steve Bellisari DB St. Louis Rams 2001 1 21 Nate Clements CB Buffalo Bills 2001 1 29 Ryan Pickett DT St. Louis Rams 2001 6 181 Rodney Bailey DE Pittsburgh Steelers 2001 7 214 Reggie Germany WR Buffalo Bills 2001 7 228 Derek Combs DB Oakland Raiders 2001 7 229 Ken-Yon Rambo WR Oakland Raiders 2000 1 24 Ahmed Plummer CB San Francisco 49ers 2000 4 98 Na'il Diggs OLB Green Bay Packers 2000 4 126 Gary Berry SAF Green Bay Packers 2000 5 144 Michael Wiley RB Dallas Cowboys 2000 7 223 James Cotton DE Chicago Bears 2000 7 228 Kevin Houser FB New Orleans Saints This is in the last 15 yrs not including this year crop 'o flops. Only a handful worth a fuck. Looking at the list, I think it is probably about 50/50 good players vs. not so good players. And you listed everyone.....including flyers in like the 6th/7th rounds who don't generally have good chances. I would say OSU has probably done as well as any school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted May 4, 2016 Report Share Posted May 4, 2016 Are you talking about BAMA now? Bama, OSU, and probably a few other schools. People are talking about DeShaun Watson.......what kind of system does he play in college? Pro style, spread, whatever? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted May 4, 2016 Report Share Posted May 4, 2016 Are you talking about BAMA now? bama, osu whoever. what is cleveland allergic to columbus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joedawg69 Posted May 4, 2016 Report Share Posted May 4, 2016 I think Hue Jackson just did not want any of them where we were picking and they had already found the players they wanted. I am not sure how things will end up this year; but, maybe we should remember that this year's draft class was not that great to begin with. Some of them looked like studs compared to the other prospects this year; but, remember everyone was talking about how this year was low on talent compared to earlier drafts. Maybe, and this is just a wild thought, Hue Jackson and Company think next year's prospects will be better and that is why we did what we did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted May 4, 2016 Report Share Posted May 4, 2016 bama, osu whoever. what is cleveland allergic to columbus? Point being that OSU is not pro-style. BAMA is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted May 5, 2016 Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 doesn't it just make sense as a gm to look at the best teamS in the ncaa that VIE FOR the national championship EVERY YEAR and try to snag some 3-4 year starters? Point being that OSU is not pro-style. BAMA is. fixed it. thank god i don't know that much about college football or for that matter, pro football. i'd be the east coast version of PoG, mike h and Retarded if i did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike H Posted May 5, 2016 Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 You're so mad. It's been months since we've interacted in any way, but my names stuck in your mouth like Ghoolie's old shriveled dick. Must be terrible to be old, bitter and filled with regret. At least you're not alone, you have a pretty big group in your situation to commiserate with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted May 5, 2016 Report Share Posted May 5, 2016 You're so mad. It's been months since we've interacted in any way, but my names stuck in your mouth like Ghoolie's old shriveled dick. Must be terrible to be old, bitter and filled with regret. At least you're not alone, you have a pretty big group in your situation to commiserate with. HA! yeah it'll suck for you as well getting old. that is if the world is around long enough for that to happen since you little lazy faggots don't have the balls to go protect this country. when ISIS parachutes into your community college campus (like red dawn) you'll have no where to run, no mommy's skirt to run under and your girlfriend won't be able to fight that battle for ya. yeah you might actually have to put your phone down for a minute to put your hands up while they cut off your head. good luck pal. oh btw, good to hear from ya. when i mentioned you in that post i just picked your name out of a hat of assholes on this board....... so don't feel so special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike H Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 I did six years of service for this country, and continue working for it as a civilian. Glad to know your old ass isn't obsessed with me, and that you don't even remember who you're taking to. Senility and alcoholism doesn't sound fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 I did six years of service for this country, and continue working for it as a civilian. Glad to know your old ass isn't obsessed with me, and that you don't even remember who you're taking to. Senility and alcoholism doesn't sound fun. yeah i'm so obsessed that i knew you were a vet. and alcoholism IS fun. you should try it. maybe people wouldn't think you're such a dried up cunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike H Posted May 6, 2016 Report Share Posted May 6, 2016 you're confusing me with the only ass you've gotten in decades. Now I'm worried Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted May 8, 2016 Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 We failed to get a single Ohio State player going on ten years and we passed on what we need best a RB zeke will be a game changer in the NFL and then we passed on a franchise QB lynch and we picked a shrimp in a NO D conference so here we go again repeating shit and being dumb for getting one shot pick and losing mybe a good one See yall next year after we fire everyone again the buckeyes got 12 drafted three first round five in round three 12 overall...........the Browns kept there record clean drafting crap and not a buckeye for ten years............makes sense for a LOSER When you're done crying - I'm still waiting for your Mo Clarett to gain his 1st yard after Ohio State. Sounds like I better watch the re-airing of "The Longest Yard" to make sure I didn't miss it. We DID draft somebody from Ohio State within the last 10 years - your boy Brian Robiskie in round 2 in 2009. More Rich4needingmemoryedits? My favorite Buckeye in this draft was Zeke Elliott, which isn't much different than Urban Meyer's fave. That said, a FO full of Harvard intellect thought why don't we just bulk up this year's draft volume to 14 guys plus add a 1st and a 2nd round pick to the 2017 draft while we address some glaring weaknesses like edge rush, WR, LB and oline depth? As many previous drafts reminded us - 1 guy can either get injured or never live up to the hype or both. If we've longed for a different approach from our FO, adding draft picks while emphasizing the WR position and edge rushers in a passing era as well as adding RG3 at humbled prices plus drafting a QB with an ideal TD to INT ratio and completion percentage of 67.5 in 3 years of starting at USC is pretty good. Just out of curiosity from all this Ohio State hype, how many times in your life have you seen Ohio State beat USC? Nobody knows why Bosa was suspended but isn't it conceivable that Tunsil, who never once tested positive for marijuana during his SEC tenure, could have smoked it less frequently than Bosa last season? Gee, why would a place like Cleveland need to worry about something like that today? If Bosa didn't wear an Ohio State uniform - you would have been happy to notice the games he brought his C game to wondering if the next Jadeveon Clowney wasn't getting overblown. Willie McGinest wasn't nearly as impressed with Bosa on film as Ohio State homers clinging to their Illinois game. He's good but I don't think asking him to worry about covering the flats more frequently than he's had to makes his transition the piece of cake some are assuming it will be in San Diego. Kam Wimbley had a very good rookie year here when all he was asked to do was worry about sic em and sack em. The next year teams countered with throwing at his flats and guess who never got a 2nd contract in Cleveland? If you want to make Bosa the next the JJ Wattshisname - you put him in a 4-3 with a hand down for sic em, sock em and sack em rather than asking him to worry about back pedaling to a zone coverage. Thinking can cause just enough hesitation to prevent a guy like Bosa from playing fast. Mario Williams will be happy to tell people the difference between a good situation and a bad one for a guy born to rush the passer and I'm sure he can break out the difference in sack volumes to reflect it. This draft has some exciting Buckeyes in it no doubt. We're going to see which ones were drafted too high and which ones were great picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted May 8, 2016 Report Share Posted May 8, 2016 When you're done crying - I'm still waiting for your Mo Clarett to gain his 1st yard after Ohio State. Sounds like I better watch the re-airing of "The Longest Yard" to make sure I didn't miss it. We DID draft somebody from Ohio State within the last 10 years - your boy Brian Robiskie in round 2 in 2009. More Rich4needingmemoryedits? My favorite Buckeye in this draft was Zeke Elliott, which isn't much different than Urban Meyer's fave. That said, a FO full of Harvard intellect thought why don't we just bulk up this year's draft volume to 14 guys plus add a 1st and a 2nd round pick to the 2017 draft while we address some glaring weaknesses like edge rush, WR, LB and oline depth? As many previous drafts reminded us - 1 guy can either get injured or never live up to the hype or both. If we've longed for a different approach from our FO, adding draft picks while emphasizing the WR position and edge rushers in a passing era as well as adding RG3 at humbled prices plus drafting a QB with an ideal TD to INT ratio and completion percentage of 67.5 in 3 years of starting at USC is pretty good. Just out of curiosity from all this Ohio State hype, how many times in your life have you seen Ohio State beat USC? Nobody knows why Bosa was suspended but isn't it conceivable that Tunsil, who never once tested positive for marijuana during his SEC tenure, could have smoked it less frequently than Bosa last season? Gee, why would a place like Cleveland need to worry about something like that today? If Bosa didn't wear an Ohio State uniform - you would have been happy to notice the games he brought his C game to wondering if the next Jadeveon Clowney wasn't getting overblown. Willie McGinest wasn't nearly as impressed with Bosa on film as Ohio State homers clinging to their Illinois game. He's good but I don't think asking him to worry about covering the flats more frequently than he's had to makes his transition the piece of cake some are assuming it will be in San Diego. Kam Wimbley had a very good rookie year here when all he was asked to do was worry about sic em and sack em. The next year teams countered with throwing at his flats and guess who never got a 2nd contract in Cleveland? If you want to make Bosa the next the JJ Wattshisname - you put him in a 4-3 with a hand down for sic em, sock em and sack em rather than asking him to worry about back pedaling to a zone coverage. Thinking can cause just enough hesitation to prevent a guy like Bosa from playing fast. Mario Williams will be happy to tell people the difference between a good situation and a bad one for a guy born to rush the passer and I'm sure he can break out the difference in sack volumes to reflect it. This draft has some exciting Buckeyes in it no doubt. We're going to see which ones were drafted too high and which ones were great picks. Sure Buckeye players are nice.. But picking for sentimental value is not gonna help your team.. Most of us here understand that. It ultimately comes down to the system a team is running and trust.. That is trusting that player to flourish in said system.. However. Im not really big on the system as I am on "talent".. Everything starts with raw talent. Then, learning how to play the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted May 13, 2016 Report Share Posted May 13, 2016 Sure Buckeye players are nice.. But picking for sentimental value is not gonna help your team.. Most of us here understand that. It ultimately comes down to the system a team is running and trust.. That is trusting that player to flourish in said system.. However. Im not really big on the system as I am on "talent".. Everything starts with raw talent. Then, learning how to play the game. yep and ohio state had some of the best talent in the draft this year so....... it's like picking a 2nd stringer from a deep national championship team (whoever/whenever) or some 'sure-fire' guy from a division II school. my bet goes on the 2nd stringer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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