The Cysko Kid Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 Just accept that you don't know what our needs are. Not like the coaching staff does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 Just accept that you don't know what our needs are. Not like the coaching staff does. I would hope not that being said "coaches and GMs" in the last 2 years thought Gilbert, Manziel & Erving filled needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 No one remains that made those picks. Give the damn coaching staff one damn season before you anoint yourself smarter than them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 Erving apparently did fill a need because he's going to be our starting center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakodog Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 What was that other kids name from Bakersfield CA in 14 that couldn't play in the NFL.......Oh ya Derek Carr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 Just accept that you don't know what our needs are. Not like the coaching staff does. Don't ya know that most forum members know the team's needs better than the coaches do, they know the prospective players better than the coaches do, and they already know just how good or bad a drafted player is going to be, by being able to see into the future. The board is loaded with gurus.............. Just ask 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 Erving apparently did fill a need because he's going to be our starting center. By default means little. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 I'm pretty sure it was not a surprise that mack walked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 I'm pretty sure it was not a surprise that mack walked Correct,it wasn't. As it stands Erving is our center by default either way. With such a poor outing his rookie season it Would not surprise me if he's suplanted in camp by either Greco on a position switch or a late round pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erie Dawg Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 I'm not very confident in our center position from what I saw last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 Well it's Hue's ass on the line. And as usual for every new coach it's the first QB he takes that determines his fate.http://sports.yahoo.com/news/browns-stay-no-32-select-oklahoma-states-ogbah-233025962--nfl.html ''Trust me on this one,'' Jackson said late Friday Sorry Hue- I don't. If you had taken him with one of the compensatory 5ths, I wouldn't be 1\2 as POed. From WalterFootball: 93. Cody Kessler, QB, USC D Grade The good news is that the Browns traded down for this pick. The bad news is that they used this pick on a horrible quarterback prospect. Cody Kessler is a small signal-caller with a weak arm. He could be a nice backup in the NFL, but I don't see how Cleveland could ever envision him as a starter. The Browns told Robert Griffin that he'd have to compete with a young quarterback. The only way he'll ever lose to Kessler is if he shows up both drunk and high to practice every day, and even then, it'll be close. Yes Walter- I know- the issue I have is we already have three backup quarterbacks on the roster, and I don't see this guy as being an upgrade over any of them. IIRC, Colt McCoy had an extremely high completion % in college too. If you have 60+% of the forum agreeing with you then it's OK to post Walter football pieces. If not, then Fuck Walter football. You can post stuff from blogs that came from the bowels of the internet if you 80%+ agreement on a particular subject and it's considered gospel. Fuck kessler he's a reach for a guy that won't see anything more than the practice squad.is he able to beat out the 4 we currently have on our roster? See above. Matt Leinert, Mark Sanchez, Matt Barkley and Kessler; Wasted Pick There's a trend Opal. One of the reasons I was against Brady Quinn. Other than Montana, not much to show there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 He's a third round qb. Only in cleveland do we think a third round qb was picked to be a franchise savior.Unless it's Brian Hoyer or worse yet Connor Shaw or frankly anybody that's not currently starting. WSS (but they weren't even third round) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 He is probably better than Austin Shaw. You always want that bottom 3rd of the roster turning over to increase competition. So I'm not against the notion of putting pressure on the QB group... but this guy is only an upgrade at Taxi QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/media-center/videos/EXCLUSIVE-Browns-1st-Phone-Call-to-Cody-Kessler/624eb219-039b-4efa-9521-16d7b37ac7fc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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D Bone Posted April 30, 2016 Report Share Posted April 30, 2016 So far, Ogbah looks and sounds like he's the happiest to be a Brown, with Cody a close 2nd.......... Nassib looks like he's in time-out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggins7919 Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 I'm not thrilled with this pick, but I see why they took him. Hue values accuracy above all else, and this guy has it in spades. Does he have a big arm? Uh...no. He has in fact the noodle arm extraordinaire. But Dalton never had a huge arm, and we saw the results. Kessler also played in pro style offense, so that will help too. Did I like the pick? No...I didn't. I wanted Cook, and I thought it was an easy choice. Especially WHERE we could've gotten him. Hue Jackson wants everyone to trust him, but he hasn't yet earned that trust from a fan base that has heard promises from just about everyone. This pick tells me our coaches have way more faith in RG III than others do, and that's fine. What we don't know about RG III is whether he can drop back, read a field, and fire the ball to the open guy. Can he accurately fire the ball to a wr off a read option fake? Hell yes he can, and he throws a tight beebee spiral too. But surveying the field under pressure is a different ball game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joedawg69 Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 If this was Hue Jackson's first rodeo, then I might be a bit more skeptical; but, he has done well with QBs on a pretty consistent basis. I may not have thought of the pick as a good one but then I am not running the team and I don't know what is best for Hue Jackson's system like Hue does. I guess I will wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoug319 Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 Regardless of what anyone thinks, its clear that Cody Kessler is gonna compete for the starting job, and thats not just coach talk. Did you guys here what Hue and Sashi said? I'd say there's a 20% chance its Kessler day 1, 80% its Griffin. And I think when it's all said and done Kessler will be much better than Griffin at staying in the pocket and diagnosing a defense.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 I agree adoug but I doubt hue will throw kessler to the wolves this year. Rg3 is here to soak up the punishment and will basically be sacrificed to give hue's guy time to develop. Both griffin and mccown are expendable. I think the fans will end up baying for hue's blood by the end of this season because they're dumb but he's gonna stick to his guns and develop his guy and in the end I think kessler might be pretty decent. Not Peyton Manning by any stretch but pretty decent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 After watching the press conference of those five guys, I have to say, Kessler really impressed me. You can see his leadership ability right off the bat, fielding 'general' questions and talking for the whole group. He may not end up be the starter any time soon, if at all, but he's certainly a good guy to have in the locker room, and won't let us down in a spot start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambridgeho Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 I agree adoug but I doubt hue will throw kessler to the wolves this year. Rg3 is here to soak up the punishment and will basically be sacrificed to give hue's guy time to develop. Both griffin and mccown are expendable. I think the fans will end up baying for hue's blood by the end of this season because they're dumb but he's gonna stick to his guns and develop his guy and in the end I think kessler might be pretty decent. Not Peyton Manning by any stretch but pretty decent If he is Chad Pennington good, I will take it. We dont need to throw the ball down the field 40 yards every play. We now have wr's who can catch a 5 yr out and take it to the house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 If he is Chad Pennington good, I will take it. We dont need to throw the ball down the field 4 yards every play. We now have wr's who can catch a 5 yr out and take it to the house. You're a yard shy.... Nice first impression by all of our first five picks. I disagree on Nassib. Struck me as an all-business kind of guy... not unlike a rookie JJ Watt. And I will try not to nauseate everyone with that premature comparison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 great. we drafted a world party. 3 burnt match sticks with eyes, an arab and a jew. don't know if they'll put asses in the seats but the cafeteria will smell like holy hell cooking up lamb jowels and matzah ball soup each day. "get your lamb jowel stew HERE!" how will they serve it? with or without explosives? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 Oh... and as for Kessler. Again, no issue with the pick of the player, it's where he was taken. But that's in the category of a personal problem. I've already begun the process of adjusting to the fact that with this FO we are going to see names: we either never heard of... or never expected taken so early... or both... for as long as this FO is here. May their reign be long because it would mean that they are doing their jobs well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tampadawgs Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 I really really hope Kessler becomes a pro bowl QB, just so I can watch everyone on this board say see I knew he was going to be good....GOD people on here just hammer everything the Browns do. I get it we have sucked for a long time. They piss me off just as much as the next guy, but come on. I do not know alot about Kessler. All I know is HUE is great with QBs so RG3 and all our Qbs will be better for it. AS for the Draft, I thought it was great draft for the Browns 14 picks- ALL POWER 5 CONFERENCE PICKS. We will be drafting in the top 10 next yr again, plus how good will Philly and Tenn really be. So we added almost 19 new players from FA and draft and will more than likely have 2 top 10 picks next year. They blew it, and now rebuilding from the bottom.Unlike years past where they kept putting band aids on everything, and listening to the fans on Bullshit players everyone wanted. They had a plan and stuck to it!!!!! I do not know if this plan will work, but nothing else has. So Great Job Browns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren15 Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 I really really hope Kessler becomes a pro bowl QB, just so I can watch everyone on this board say see I knew he was going to be good....GOD people on here just hammer everything the Browns do. I get it we have sucked for a long time. They piss me off just as much as the next guy, but come on. I do not know alot about Kessler. All I know is HUE is great with QBs so RG3 and all our Qbs will be better for it. AS for the Draft, I thought it was great draft for the Browns 14 picks- ALL POWER 5 CONFERENCE PICKS. We will be drafting in the top 10 next yr again, plus how good will Philly and Tenn really be. So we added almost 19 new players from FA and draft and will more than likely have 2 top 10 picks next year. They blew it, and now rebuilding from the bottom.Unlike years past where they kept putting band aids on everything, and listening to the fans on Bullshit players everyone wanted. They had a plan and stuck to it!!!!! I do not know if this plan will work, but nothing else has. So Great Job Browns WOW a positive fan......we should have you stuffed and preserved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 I agree adoug but I doubt hue will throw kessler to the wolves this year. Rg3 is here to soak up the punishment and will basically be sacrificed to give hue's guy time to develop. Both griffin and mccown are expendable. I think the fans will end up baying for hue's blood by the end of this season because they're dumb but he's gonna stick to his guns and develop his guy and in the end I think kessler might be pretty decent. Not Peyton Manning by any stretch but pretty decent Which means, if Cincinnati is an example, his offense doesn't really need a Peyton Manning. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 Re:Kessler. I've given my impressions of him. That said, in an offense similar to Hue's the only way to keep from having safeties consistently attack forward is having a QB able to take those 5 & 7 step drops, then push the ball downfield. I do trust Hue and his ability to coach and lead young men. However coaching and identifying talent do not necessarily go hand in hand. Kessler is not what Dalton, RG3 or even Campbell were. This is unless of course Hue beleives he'll be able to get more mustard on Cody's throws via conditioning, release/throwing motion and improved footwork. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted May 1, 2016 Report Share Posted May 1, 2016 Oh... and as for Kessler. Again, no issue with the pick of the player, it's where he was taken. But that's in the category of a personal problem. I've already begun the process of adjusting to the fact that with this FO we are going to see names: we either never heard of... or never expected taken so early... or both... for as long as this FO is here. May their reign be long because it would mean that they are doing their jobs well. respect your opinion as usual but when Hack in a bag went to Jets in middle of 2nd the cat(Hack) was out of the bag. Pro style guy all along was going to be Hue's guy & not Cook. At least they decided to take Nassib at top of 3rd knowing they had found a trading partner in Carolina & Hue still got his man going down as far as possible imo. Of course it's always easier to put the blame on other moves but that's my story & am sticking to it. Make me feel a little better about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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