CaineDeSoulis Posted March 16, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000793236/article/cal-qb-davis-webb-i-have-capability-to-learn-any-offenseNice interview of Hopefully the next Browns QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 Watched some tape... not seeing a lot there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyceRolls Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 That video made me cringe. Who is he trying to convince with all that autofelatio? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 well, his ideal qb he emulates IS Tom Brady.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domcucch1994 Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 Davis Webb in the 3rd Let him and Kess battle it out 16-0 BABY!!! WOOOT! SUPERBOWL CHAMPS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Make-Believe Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 Much prefer Peterman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 Much prefer Peterman. Most pro ready in the draft but his arm is weaker than Kessler's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Make-Believe Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 Most pro ready in the draft but his arm is weaker than Kessler's You think so? I didn't get the same sense from him. I'm sure there's a stat somewhere to back one of us up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 Much prefer Peterman. You think so? I didn't get the same sense from him. I'm sure there's a stat somewhere to back one of us up. There was. NFL combine Kessler 55 mph, Peterman 53 mph. This got posted in the Watson undraftable thread. FWIW, a lot of scouts at the Clemson pro day said Watson didn't look lame arm either, though his 49 mph velocity was worse than Connor Shaw. According to the stats that got posted in the spreadsheet I couldn't find, the odds of being a successful NFL qb drop way off if you can't hit 55 mph. IIRC, the only successful qbs drafted since 2008 who couldn't hit that mark were Tyrod Taylor and Dak Prescott- and they both threw with arm issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaineDeSoulis Posted March 17, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 There was. NFL combine Kessler 55 mph, Peterman 53 mph. This got posted in the Watson undraftable thread. FWIW, a lot of scouts at the Clemson pro day said Watson didn't look lame arm either, though his 49 mph velocity was worse than Connor Shaw. According to the stats that got posted in the spreadsheet I couldn't find, the odds of being a successful NFL qb drop way off if you can't hit 55 mph. IIRC, the only successful qbs drafted since 2008 who couldn't hit that mark were Tyrod Taylor and Dak Prescott- and they both threw with arm issues. Actually i saw some scouts saying they could see his arm limitations i'll post a link here in a second Deshaun Watson: Arm-strength concerns have followed Watson for the last two seasons on film and aren't going away after he was clocked at 49 miles per hour on the radar gun in Indianapolis. The pro day workout showed some of these same issues, according to a scout who was there. "He just doesn't have a big arm. That's not who he is. Closer to Alex Smith than Marcus Mariota." Matt Miller ~ Bleacher Report Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Make-Believe Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 There was. NFL combine Kessler 55 mph, Peterman 53 mph. This got posted in the Watson undraftable thread. FWIW, a lot of scouts at the Clemson pro day said Watson didn't look lame arm either, though his 49 mph velocity was worse than Connor Shaw. According to the stats that got posted in the spreadsheet I couldn't find, the odds of being a successful NFL qb drop way off if you can't hit 55 mph. IIRC, the only successful qbs drafted since 2008 who couldn't hit that mark were Tyrod Taylor and Dak Prescott- and they both threw with arm issues. Well if there is a cut-off, there's a cut-off and I'll concede the point. There was some debate in that very thread however as to the validity of those measurements. There's also another thing I read where he completed something like 45% of his long passes... That doesn't speak to arm strength, but it does suggest an ability to get long throws to where his receivers can get to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted March 17, 2017 Report Share Posted March 17, 2017 Well if there is a cut-off, there's a cut-off and I'll concede the point. There was some debate in that very thread however as to the validity of those measurements. There's also another thing I read where he completed something like 45% of his long passes... That doesn't speak to arm strength, but it does suggest an ability to get long throws to where his receivers can get to them. I agree with this perspective all the way.......this whole MPH thing is "suddenly" a vital stat, when it never mattered before??? I think it's BS......either you can make the throws or you cant.......timing, anticipation, ability to read D's all take the lead in important traits for successful QB's.....not mph Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 Far from a QB guru. but I think it gunna take a Gun in our Division. Every Stadium sits beside a lake or River with possible elements & Winds. Ben,Flacco & Red Rifle our not bean bag tossers. Webb's arm motion looks like to me if allowed time he could drive the ball into a receiver.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 Far from a QB guru. but I think it gunna take a Gun in our Division. Every Stadium sits beside a lake or River with possible elements & Winds. Ben,Flacco & Red Rifle our not bean bag tossers. Webb's arm motion looks like to me if allowed time he could drive the ball into a receiver.. We need a mailman....get it delivered.....on time.....wind rain snow...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 We need a mailman....get it delivered.....on time.....wind rain snow...... Problem with Webb, He sometime reminds me of our old #3. Throws it hard, but were just not sure where it is going..A Perfect Mailman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyceRolls Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 Or his brain turns to goose shit under pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TypicalBrowns Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 Trubisky or Watson at 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TypicalBrowns Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 Anything else at 12 means depth for the team and they plan to build around the loch ness Kessler and not draft a qb til rounds 3-4 which Means Mahomes or Webb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Make-Believe Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 Trubisky or Watson at 12 Agreed, although I'd add Peterman as a potential second round guy. I don't think he has the upside of the top end, but I do think he'd beat out Kessler for the starting job and could be our Kirk Cousins if developed properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flugel Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 We need a mailman....get it delivered.....on time.....wind rain snow...... LOVE that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 We need a mailman....get it delivered.....on time.....wind rain snow...... That would make a good nickname....though already used in basketball for Karl Malone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 19, 2017 Report Share Posted March 19, 2017 Where is Carl Malone when you need him? Deshaun Watson: Arm-strength concerns have followed Watson for the last two seasons on film and aren't going away after he was clocked at 49 miles per hour on the radar gun in Indianapolis. The pro day workout showed some of these same issues, according to a scout who was there. "He just doesn't have a big arm. That's not who he is. Closer to Alex Smith than Marcus Mariota."- Matt Miller ~ Bleacher Report Mayock talked about his feet alignment... how it improved and made his throws stronger. Problem is you don't always get to set your feet. I agree with this perspective all the way.......this whole MPH thing is "suddenly" a vital stat, when it never mattered before??? Something had to be the hand size of 2017... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted March 19, 2017 Report Share Posted March 19, 2017 Where is Carl Malone when you need him? He woulda made a nice TE..... Of course, had he been a TE, we woulda called him the mail box...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaineDeSoulis Posted March 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2698763-meet-davis-webb-the-nfl-draft-prospect-who-can-toss-it-75-yards-with-easeAnother Good Article with an in depth interview also interesting stat Davis Webb was 36 of 102 passes over 20 yards in the air for 1,186 yards, 18 touchdowns and five picks. making him the most accurate deep ball thrower in this draft class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suomi Posted March 21, 2017 Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 Go defense at #1 and #12, then trade back into the first round to get Webb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaineDeSoulis Posted March 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 Go defense at #1 and #12, then trade back into the first round to get Webb. Great plan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted March 21, 2017 Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 Great plan great plan yes, but bellicheck & teams above at bottom of draft will have a sticker shock price tag to do so..tick tock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted March 21, 2017 Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 He woulda made a nice TE..... Of course, had he been a TE, we woulda called him the mail box...... A guy to look at if the Browns do want to draft a TE is Adam Shaheen, from Ashland. He WAS I believe an All American Power Forward at his level....D-II. 6'6"HEIGHT 33 1/2"ARM LENGTH 278LBS.WEIGHT 9 5/8"HANDS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 21, 2017 Report Share Posted March 21, 2017 Go defense at #1 and #12, then trade back into the first round to get Webb. The fifth year option is not worth that much... nor is Webb for that matter, IMO... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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