Kvoethe Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/lists/the-15-worst-owners-in-sports-20141125/jimmy-haslam-cleveland-browns-20141125 Uncle Jimmy on the list. 15. Charles Wang, New York Islanders 14. The Wilpons, New York Mets 13. The Ricketts Family, Chicago Cubs 12. Woody Johnson, New York Jets 11. Jerry Richardson, Carolina Panthers 10. David Glass, Kansas City Royals 9. Mike Brown, Cincinnati Bengals 8. Jimmy Haslam, Cleveland Browns 7. Dan Gilbert, Cleveland Cavaliers 6. Clay Bennett and Aubrey McClendon, Oklahoma City Thunder 5. The DeVos Family, Orlando Magic 4. Jerry Jones, Dallas Cowboys 3. James Dolan, New York Knicks/Rangers 2. Jeffrey Loria, Miami Marlins 1. Daniel Snyder, Washington Redskins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Cool Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 The worst of Cleveland's ownership isn't even on the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Lol I smell some politically correct jerk offery here. Dan Snider @ #1. I wonder what criteria comes to play here... WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 (and I assume you mean Dolan by the worst) WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Lol I smell some politically correct jerk offery here. Dan Snider @ #1. I wonder what criteria comes to play here... WSS Well, he's also basically fucked his franchise by trading everything for RG3, disrupting the balance between GM/HC and QB, and now the team is in an utter state. But yeah, I'm sure it's mostly the political correctness thing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 I think Jimmy Haslam being on there is a stretch. He's 10x better than Randy Lerner. Where is the credit for firing Banner and Lombardi? For Hiring Pettine and promoting Farmer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Not really sure why Haslam is on there because it appears that his idea to wipe the slate has worked out for the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tml1138 Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Not really sure why Haslam is on there because it appears that his idea to wipe the slate has worked out for the team. This list is weighted on politics. More than what they actually do as a sports team owner. Because you're right, Jimmy had a rough rookie year as an owner, but he made it right quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_brown Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 i got to agree that dan snyder is the worst....but to baltimore fans it will always be jim irsay, for sure.....hands down.....the cocksucking thief in the night..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Who gives a fuck what the Rolling Stone thinks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Who gives a fuck what the Rolling Stone thinks? Unfortunately 'TopRightNews' and 'TheBlaze' have yet to come out with the definitive list, so until then, we're stuck with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColumbusKing Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 I gotta say fArt Modell, He was such a terrible business man that he ran out of money and HAD to move the Browns. I met his wife once after a Browns game a loooooong time ago, she was a very nice lady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 I think Jimmy Haslam being on there is a stretch. He's 10x better than Randy Lerner. Where is the credit for firing Banner and Lombardi? For Hiring Pettine and promoting Farmer? For that matter what exactly was the problem with Randy Lerner? He spent whatever he was asked to spend. Actually did what the fans wanted by hiring real football people and keeping his nose out of it. What is the bitch with Jimmy Haslam? Cleaned up his mess didn'the? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Well, he's also basically fucked his franchise by trading everything for RG3, disrupting the balance between GM/HC and QB, and now the team is in an utter state. But yeah, I'm sure it's mostly the political correctness thing...Snark aside I'm sure it is too.When the president asks the Department of Justice (or Treasury or whoever) to fuck with a professional football team, and the periodical writing the list [wholeheartedly support that President], I'd say politics has a great deal to do with it. Not to mention all the idiot Browns fans squealing for us to make that deal.... WSS -edit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Eater Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Really? The Richardsons from Carolina are on there? Why? Idiotic list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Unfortunately 'TopRightNews' and 'TheBlaze' have yet to come out with the definitive list, so until then, we're stuck with this. Little smart ass brit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 I can't imagine this has anything to do with football.I can see haslam if you're talking about the truck stop rebates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Lol I smell some politically correct jerk offery here. Dan Snider @ #1. I wonder what criteria comes to play here... WSS LOL, the Rolling Stone's political bent comes into play in that list. For those who never pick up an issue, it makes Barak Obama look like a conservative. This list is weighted on politics. More than what they actually do as a sports team owner. Because you're right, Jimmy had a rough rookie year as an owner, but he made it right quickly. Rolling Stone figures those owners are so rich, they should give everyone free tickets to the games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 i got to agree that dan snyder is the worst....but to baltimore fans it will always be jim irsay, for sure.....hands down.....the cocksucking thief in the night..... You mean Robert Irsay, not Jim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 For that matter what exactly was the problem with Randy Lerner? He spent whatever he was asked to spend. Actually did what the fans wanted by hiring real football people and keeping his nose out of it. What is the bitch with Jimmy Haslam? Cleaned up his mess didn'the? WSS I thought Lerner was disengaged, not interested in the franchise all that much. Disengaged people don't make the best hiring decisions, IMO. And I wasn't bitching about Haslam, I was praising him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 I don't think politics or anything like that goes into that list totally. Maybe a little. I think it is anyone that has come up for scrutiny over some issue that comes into play. E.g. for Snyder it is clearly the "Redskins" name issue (plus some meddling) For Dan Gilbert it was probably the scathing letter he wrote about LeBron when he left (though clearly they hold a grudge over that longer than LeBron does. For Haslam, it is the threat of indictment. Plus since all these magazines are so New York centric they are clearly going to put the owners of bad NY teams at the top. An owner of a team in Sacramento or Kansas City.....or Cleveland (as most of you are right....the Dolans have managed the Indians the worst imo) who is as bad or worse at running a team won't get the same treatment as a NYC team. For the Thunder they are just pissed because those guys move the team out of Seattle. Fair enough. But it that sort of thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darubes Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Jerrry Jones has to be #1 by a long ways. He could have won 2-3 more Super Bowls with the talent he had on that team with Jimmy Johnson. Hell he even won one in spite of Barry Switzer being coach. He insists on being GM of the team and running the show, Snyder is terrible but he still has a way to go to catch Jerry.BTW Haslam and Gilbert on the list but not the Dolans who throw nickels around like manhole covers???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 I thought Lerner was disengaged, not interested in the franchise all that much. Disengaged people don't make the best hiring decisions, IMO. And I wasn't bitching about Haslam, I was praising him. Not you Osiris , I was just asking that question in a rhetorical way. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Gipper says politics has nothing to do with it. Then he says for Snyder it was the name Redskins. Dude that's politics. So remove that sin from Snyders scroll and you have some meddling. Hardly enough to make him Satan in the Hades of owners. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tml1138 Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Of course politics is a lot of it. Rolling Stone is calling Haslam one of the worst owners on more than just the truck stop rebates, but because his company is the top supplier to the drilling and fracking industries. Doesn't get any more political than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tml1138 Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 But to keep it on topic of football on this board, I say they miss on this aspect because Haslam fixed his rookie year mistakes. Likely the best year of Browns football since '99. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 Of course politics is a lot of it. Rolling Stone is calling Haslam one of the worst owners on more than just the truck stop rebates, but because his company is the top supplier to the drilling and fracking industries. Doesn't get any more political than that. So. OK, maybe then the list does not mean that these guys are the worst owners because of the way that they have mismanaged their teams.......or screwed over the fans.......but because these are just the 'baddest guys' out there because of the way they conduct their lives and business. If so, so be it. These are the worst owners from a personal life/political point of view, not a sports management point of view. I guess that is what I get for not reading the article. Edit, OK, after looking at the list it has about half to do with the management competency, and the other half because they are "personally/socially vile". Very well. Fair game I guess for Rolling Stone. Notwithstanding what they say here about these fatcat owners, each and every one of you wants your picture on the cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvoethe Posted December 4, 2014 Author Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 If you read the article it explains rationale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hish747 Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/lists/the-15-worst-owners-in-sports-20141125/jimmy-haslam-cleveland-browns-20141125 Uncle Jimmy on the list. 15. Charles Wang, New York Islanders 14. The Wilpons, New York Mets 13. The Ricketts Family, Chicago Cubs 12. Woody Johnson, New York Jets 11. Jerry Richardson, Carolina Panthers 10. David Glass, Kansas City Royals 9. Mike Brown, Cincinnati Bengals 8. Jimmy Haslam, Cleveland Browns 7. Dan Gilbert, Cleveland Cavaliers 6. Clay Bennett and Aubrey McClendon, Oklahoma City Thunder 5. The DeVos Family, Orlando Magic 4. Jerry Jones, Dallas Cowboys 3. James Dolan, New York Knicks/Rangers 2. Jeffrey Loria, Miami Marlins 1. Daniel Snyder, Washington Redskins Art Modell and Donald Sterling are missing which leads me to believe this means current owners. Otherwise this last would lack any credibility. Also, the reason Haslem is on there mainly has to do with the Pilot/Flying J scandal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted December 4, 2014 Report Share Posted December 4, 2014 i stopped giving a fuck about what rolling stone thought when i stepped into the 80s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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