MLD Woody Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 I'm pretty late to this, but can someone tell me why she is a good choice for Secretary of Education? Never been to a public school, never worried about student loans, has conflicting business interests, etc Though defending against grizzlies is important Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 I think the reason for the Betsy DeVos hatred is the fact that she supports at least some kind of Public Funding for Charter Schools. I have no problem with Charter Schools and the horror stories that one could find online are mostly from teachers union based sites. The grizzly bears remark is a non-issue but I'm not surprised it's getting so much attention. I noticed that the right is concerned that she isn't as anti Common Core as they think she should be and the left is angry that she's not more Pro Common Core. Almost laugh out loud funny but... So what I think is that if the education the kids is the most important aspect then why not help support school choice? The gripe I get from some Teachers Union Democrat friends is that it takes money away from the public schools and doesn't require as many regulations for the charter schools. I haven't been able to get a straight answer out of any of them what those requirements might possibly be. I would imagine that the public schools might be better off without them. But until I know exactly what the offending regulations are who can tell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted January 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 I really don't know how big of a deal people are making out of the grizzly thing, but it's funny. But your post didn't really touch on why she is or isn't qualified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 I really don't know how big of a deal people are making out of the grizzly thing, but it's funny. But your post didn't really touch on why she is or isn't qualified. And your eyes what would make her qualified? Or not qualified for that matter? Let's be frank the Democrats are going to hate anybody Trump puts up. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 http://www.snopes.com/betsy-devos-education-secretary/ Nice work. I see you are getting more information from internet memes these days . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted January 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 http://www.snopes.com/betsy-devos-education-secretary/ Nice work. I see you are getting more information from internet memes these days . Did you read that Snopes article? Or did you pull a Cal? What did I say that was wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted January 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 And your eyes what would make her qualified? Or not qualified for that matter? Let's be frank the Democrats are going to hate anybody Trump puts up. WSS I would like the Secretary of Education to have at least some experience with public schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 I would like the Secretary of Education to have at least some experience with public schools. Like the housing secretary has experience in public housing you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 I would like the Secretary of Education to have at least some experience with public schools. Oh really ANY experience in education, administration & curriculum for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 DeVos is not qualified in any way. She is being chosen to push forward the Republican agenda on charter schools. The grizzly bears remark is a non-issue but I'm not surprised it's getting so much attention. The bears remark may be a non-issue, but the appropriateness of guns in schools is definitely a big issue. If anyone went to a job interview and it went like this, does anyone think they'd actually get the job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 Give it up snowflakes, Trump IS YOUR PRESIDENT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 Give it up snowflakes, Trump IS YOUR PRESIDENT. Hitting that sauce a bit early, I see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 Hitting that sauce a bit early, I see. Lost in the Sauce with Johnny Manziel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 Hitting that sauce a bit early, I see. Shut up snowflake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 Shut up snowflake. Excellent debating skills. Apparently you can't think of anything substantial to say about why Devos should be the Secretary of Education. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 Shut up snowflake. Luh you too, boo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 Excellent debating skills. Apparently you can't think of anything substantial to say about why Devos should be the Secretary of Education. This mofo is a basement dwelling kid trolling the obscure parts of the Internet claiming to be an old man. You know any 60 year olds that troll the web? I sure as fuck don't. It's creepy as shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erie Dawg Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 Breaking news, Trump's cabinet pick for department of agriculture never worked on a farm. Booooooooooo, lets smash the windows out of this building and light something on fire. It's not anything new. I would not have to go back far to find a cabinet pick with no experience other than being a career politician. How about Bills pick for Dept. Of agriculture? Law degree, career politician. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erie Dawg Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 If Trump is who he is in real life, I'm sure getting rid of someone that isn't performing wouldn't bother him in the bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 Breaking news, Trump's cabinet pick for department of agriculture never worked on a farm. Booooooooooo, lets smash the windows out of this building and light something on fire. It's not anything new. I would not have to go back far to find a cabinet pick with no experience other than being a career politician. How about Bills pick for Dept. Of agriculture? Law degree, career politician. So... you're saying you have to go back almost 20 years then? That's quite a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 great. now we have liberals wanting age discrimination on the net. I'm retired, I have more time in the winter. Meanwhile, the liberal bitching about Devos - "True. DeVos does have a degree, just not in education; she graduated from Calvin College in Grand Rapids, Michigan with a bachelor's degree in business administration and political science. She wouldn't be the first Secretary of Education to take office without a degree in the subject, however. Margaret Spellings, George W. Bush's education secretary from 2005 to 2009, had a degree in political science. Bill Clinton's education secretary, Richard W. Riley, had a law degree." "According to a DeVos family spokesperson interviewed by The Detroit News, members of the family have "given millions of dollars" to the Grand Rapids Public Schools over the years." "Invested $200 million in Christian schools and organizations? Undetermined. Through their nonprofit organization, the Dick and Betsy DeVos Family Foundation, Betsy and her husband have given tens of millions of dollars to a great many schools and organizations, some of which are identified as "Christian." For 12 years running, for example, the foundation donated between $200,000 and $300,000 annually to Potter's House, a nonprofit "Christ-centered" elementary school serving underprivileged children in Grand Rapids, Michigan. But they have also contributed large amounts to the Van Andel Institute (VAI), scientific research and education facility, and the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts, among many others." "She currently chairs the American Federation for Children, an organization that promotes "school choice" in the form of education vouchers, scholarship tax credits, and the like. “I am honored to accept this responsibility to work with the President-elect on his vision to make American education great again,” DeVos said: The status quo in education is not acceptable. Together, we can work to make transformational change that ensures every student in America has the opportunity to fulfill his or her highest potential." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 So liberals and the NEA...oops, same thing.... want the new ed sec to be one of them. well, boo hoo, STFU. Being one of them is actually a disqualifier. Did anybody objecting read about her, in the link that Steve posted??? To me, she is PERFECT for the position. Elections have conseqences, but the liberals loved it the last eight years, hate it now and want it to not be true. and no, you don't get a participation trophy for objecting to her with nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erie Dawg Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 So... you're saying you have to go back almost 20 years then? That's quite a while. No probably not, please research if you need. Don't just stop at the highest level. Go to the state level, then the local. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 Breaking news, Trump's cabinet pick for department of agriculture never worked on a farm. Booooooooooo, lets smash the windows out of this building and light something on fire. It's not anything new. I would not have to go back far to find a cabinet pick with no experience other than being a career politician. How about Bills pick for Dept. Of agriculture? Law degree, career politician. great. now we have liberals wanting age discrimination on the net. I'm retired, I have more time in the winter. Meanwhile, the liberal bitching about Devos - "True. DeVos does have a degree, just not in education; she graduated from Calvin College in Grand Rapids, Michigan with a bachelor's degree in business administration and political science. She wouldn't be the first Secretary of Education to take office without a degree in the subject, however. Margaret Spellings, George W. Bush's education secretary from 2005 to 2009, had a degree in political science. Bill Clinton's education secretary, Richard W. Riley, had a law degree." "According to a DeVos family spokesperson interviewed by The Detroit News, members of the family have "given millions of dollars" to the Grand Rapids Public Schools over the years." "Invested $200 million in Christian schools and organizations? Undetermined. Through their nonprofit organization, the Dick and Betsy DeVos Family Foundation, Betsy and her husband have given tens of millions of dollars to a great many schools and organizations, some of which are identified as "Christian." For 12 years running, for example, the foundation donated between $200,000 and $300,000 annually to Potter's House, a nonprofit "Christ-centered" elementary school serving underprivileged children in Grand Rapids, Michigan. But they have also contributed large amounts to the Van Andel Institute (VAI), scientific research and education facility, and the John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts, among many others." "She currently chairs the American Federation for Children, an organization that promotes "school choice" in the form of education vouchers, scholarship tax credits, and the like. “I am honored to accept this responsibility to work with the President-elect on his vision to make American education great again,” DeVos said: The status quo in education is not acceptable. Together, we can work to make transformational change that ensures every student in America has the opportunity to fulfill his or her highest potential." So basically neither of you can defend the selection of DeVos with anything substantial, so you resort to attacking others. Giving money to causes makes her an expert now? Right, I've donated to cancer research, so that must make me an expert at cancer research! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 great. now we have liberals wanting age discrimination on the net. I'm retired, I have more time in the winter. The fuck are you blabbering about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erie Dawg Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 Who did I attack? Re read what I posted. So basically neither of you can defend the selection of DeVos with anything substantial, so you resort to attacking others. Giving money to causes makes her an expert now? Right, I've donated to cancer research, so that must make me an expert at cancer research! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 The fuck are you blabbering about? "This mofo is a basement dwelling kid trolling the obscure parts of the Internet claiming to be an old man. You know any 60 year olds that troll the web? I sure as fuck don't" Tiamsies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osiris Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 Who did I attack? Re read what I posted. So basically neither of you can defend the selection of DeVos with anything substantial, so you resort to attacking others. Giving money to causes makes her an expert now? Right, I've donated to cancer research, so that must make me an expert at cancer research! The 'attack' term was meant more for Cal, but you did criticize Clinton's pick from 20 years ago, which is fine, but irrelevant. It's basically arguing that the precedent makes it okay to appoint someone with no experience. I thought Trump was supposed to be the outsider who was going to do things differently in Washington? So how is appointing someone with zero qualifications different than doing something you claim has been happening in Washington for decades? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 "This mofo is a basement dwelling kid trolling the obscure parts of the Internet claiming to be an old man. You know any 60 year olds that troll the web? I sure as fuck don't" Tiamsies And your point is....? First off, I"m neither liberal nor age discriminating. I'm calling out an obvious troll. Calling me liberal is like saying I'm a Steelers fan because I agree that Ben is a HoF caliber QB. Your logic (not surprisingly) doesn't hold up. But please, carry on with another long winded post I'll be sure not to read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erie Dawg Posted January 21, 2017 Report Share Posted January 21, 2017 So he isn't allowed to do what past administration's have done because a new precedent is set? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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