BaconHound Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 This is not a call to fire Hue but c'mon man. Reporter asks a legit question on why not attempt a FG on the 34 with 1:17 left knowing that you need 2 scores and to get another onside kick as well as score. Kicking the FG leaves you more time if for some miracle you recover the second onside and Hue's response, "more time on the clock means they (Tennessee) have more time to make plays". If Tennessee recovers the ball the game is over. For fuck sake if you can't think fast enough in the pressroom how can you on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 Not sure about the 1:17 mark, but I know I was thinking FG after Kess took the sack for -10 and we called TO at the 0:56 mark. Agree that the Titan end of game decisions are not disqualifiers, but does take me back to my early concerns over a HC also acting as OC and QB "guru". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opal312 Posted October 21, 2016 Report Share Posted October 21, 2016 I was thinking the same thing! Our head coach has no idea how to run a two minute offense. OMG! And at every Press conference he says; "We have to do it better"! "We just have to get better" "We need to play better" "It's on Me, We have to do it better" "We need To Get Better" "The guys are playing hard, We just have to play better" "There's No Quit In these guys, We just have to Get Better" I've been a Browns fan since Paul Brown and Jim Brown GO TRIBE CLEVELAND GETS ITS SECOND CHAMPIONSHIP IN Six Months!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 "We have to do it better"! "We just have to get better TALENT" "We need to play better TALENT" "It's on Me, We have to do it better FINDING TALENT" "We need To Get Better TALENT" "The guys are playing hard, We just have to play better TALENT" "There's No Quit In these guys, We just have to Get Better TALENT" Fixed..I understand we had to put our team into good positions to build thru the drafts. But from here on out..It Better be all about TOP TALENT..Hue's getting the most out of the young-ins but Talent Wins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Fixed..I understand we had to put our team into good positions to build thru the drafts. But from here on out..It Better be all about TOP TALENT..Hue's getting the most out of the young-ins but Talent Wins ^this!! i've heard others say "well wouldn't you move down considering all the holes we need filled?" uh, no. first off we already have a ton of picks. can we at least TRY and pick a keeper in the top ten no matter what the position without trading down? ok, if we have the first pick and we're not drafting QB, which i doubt any team will at #1 cuz there isn't a 'great' qb to be had, then maybe try and get something for a trade down for a couple of spots. but if the #1 pick is going to be the next kahlil mack or joe thomas you have to keep the pick and use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opal312 Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Fixed..I understand we had to put our team into good positions to build thru the drafts. But from here on out..It Better be all about TOP TALENT..Hue's getting the most out of the young-ins but Talent Wins Talent Trumps Quantity every time! Most teams have "that guy"! Julio, Antonio Brown, Jordy Nelson, Gronk, and these guys have QBs so yes we need talent! I wanted Elliot in the worst way and thought Bosa would be someone to go after. I don't think Kessler is the long term answer and still don't like the pick. Dallas has the two guys I wanted. Seems like every year we draft guys who are with the team for an average of two or three years! nuts! Now they need to rebuild the entire offensive line and get a QB thanks to Pettine and Farmer. Not to mention the secondary! Haden just sucks! Overrated and should have been traded long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgojackets Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Are we seriously shitting on Hue fucking 6 weeks in? You gotta think he has to think a little outside the box because we don't matchup well with anybody let alone zero depth everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrownsnMopar Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Are we seriously shitting on Hue fucking 6 weeks in? You gotta think he has to think a little outside the box because we don't matchup well with anybody let alone zero depth everywhere. Not to mention we have 12+ players on IR and We have walking wounded on both sides of the ball!!! A rookie QB and,and,and.....personally I think Hue Jackson & Co. Should be coach o the FUCKING year!!! Ya have to have legos to build ANYTHING!!!...GO BROWNS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Are we seriously shitting on Hue fucking 6 weeks in? You gotta think he has to think a little outside the box because we don't matchup well with anybody let alone zero depth everywhere. Not at all- but outside the box. and "questionable" are two different things. I still haven't forgotten the fake punt that fooled no one. Hue's doing the best he can with the hand he's been dealt. But if he insists Erving is the answer at center and gets Kessler hurt- I may change my mind. Do you have to be blind that you dragged a guy in off the street and he outplayed your first round pick? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medicineman Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Go away Ghoolie. This board is for real Browns fans go back to whatever rock you climbed out from under and root Pisspuke on all you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfooldoug Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 I'm thinking he needs to learn a lot about clock management and the kicking game. Sheesh, fake punt without a punter and go fer 2 too damn early. Those are correctable though. My biggest concern is that he isn't forced to take Hasslams "advice" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted October 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 Are we seriously shitting on Hue fucking 6 weeks in? You gotta think he has to think a little outside the box because we don't matchup well with anybody let alone zero depth everywhere. It was a shitty explanation. I prefaced the comment by saying he shouldn't be fired but is he above criticism? The team is losing because there is little talent but bad calls will doom a mediocre team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 It was a shitty explanation. I prefaced the comment by saying he shouldn't be fired but is he above criticism? The team is losing because there is little talent but bad calls will doom a mediocre team. It is a bit of a double standard,......just imagine if "he who should not be mentioned" was still coaching and making some of these decisions........the lynch mob would be beyond angry...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 ^this!! i've heard others say "well wouldn't you move down considering all the holes we need filled?" uh, no. first off we already have a ton of picks. can we at least TRY and pick a keeper in the top ten no matter what the position without trading down? ok, if we have the first pick and we're not drafting QB, which i doubt any team will at #1 cuz there isn't a 'great' qb to be had, then maybe try and get something for a trade down for a couple of spots. but if the #1 pick is going to be the next kahlil mack or joe thomas you have to keep the pick and use it. YEP!! Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 I fully support Hue. The players obviously are motivated & play hard for him & never quit, but it's a young Team still being built & developed. It takes time. Has Hue made mistakes?....Certainly. Has & will Hue learn from his mistakes?....I believe so. Have Hue & his Staff helped many of these young players improve?....Definitely. As one of my favorite shirts states....."HUE GOTTA BELIEVE". Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 i've heard others say "well wouldn't you move down considering all the holes we need filled?" uh, no. first off we already have a ton of picks. can we at least TRY and pick a keeper in the top ten no matter what the position without trading down? ok, if we have the first pick and we're not drafting QB, which i doubt any team will at #1 cuz there isn't a 'great' qb to be had, then maybe try and get something for a trade down for a couple of spots. but if the #1 pick is going to be the next kahlil mack or joe thomas you have to keep the pick and use it. I agree with you and Canton Mike. Enough of this trade down to get more picks stuff. It cost us Julio Jones and Kahlil Mack. That only works if you get equivalent talent farther down the board, and for the Browns, that's never happened yet that I can recall. The only thing I'll disagree with you Mik is about qb. one (or more) of them invariably rises pre-draft. Anyone on the board can raise their hand and take a bow if they can honestly say they had Goff and Wentz at the top of their boards this time last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 I agree with you and Canton Mike. Enough of this trade down to get more picks stuff. It cost us Julio Jones and Kahlil Mack. That only works if you get equivalent talent farther down the board, and for the Browns, that's never happened yet that I can recall. The only thing I'll disagree with you Mik is about qb. one (or more) of them invariably rises pre-draft. Anyone on the board can raise their hand and take a bow if they can honestly say they had Goff and Wentz at the top of their boards this time last year. I agree Larry... I have always been a proponent of taking TBAA. They always seem to make an impact regardless of the position.. I have always hated drafting solely on "Need" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 We drafted solely on need? It is a bit of a double standard,......just imagine if "he who should not be mentioned" was still coaching and making some of these decisions........the lynch mob would be beyond angry...... Pettine... Pettine... Pettine... and I was staring into a mirror in a bathroom illuminated only by the screen of my laptop... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfooldoug Posted October 22, 2016 Report Share Posted October 22, 2016 We drafted solely on need? Pettine... Pettine... Pettine... and I was staring into a mirror in a bathroom illuminated only by the screen of my laptop... I hope you were also looking into camera 4 as you spoke the name Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted October 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 Clock management? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 Clock management? OK clock mismanagement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 My question for Hue is this..... Why differ and put the worst part of your team (the defense) out first? We have done this 3 times and trailed 7-0 within 5 minutes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted October 23, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 My question for Hue is this..... Why differ and put the worst part of your team (the defense) out first? We have done this 3 times and trailed 7-0 within 5 minutes I think is pretty much standard operating procedure and also believe the Browns are 1-6 on first drive TDs this year and they have only scored a TD three times in seven games in the first quarter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 Hue has had a rough couple of games regarding game day management. Playing conservative and punting today on 4th & 2 before the half was his call, and while I wanted us to go for it, I understood the logic - get to 1/2 time down 4, see how the starting QB is doing, and try to win it in the 2nd 1/2.......... ............ then he called a defensive TO when Cincy was more than content to get to 1/2 time up 4..... Can't play both sides Hue, if you wanted to be aggressive then you should've gone for the 4th and 2, but once you didn't, then you needed to get to 1/2 time like you hoped for when you were on offense... If he doesn't call that TO, then the hail marry never happens. Bad, bad game day management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted October 23, 2016 Report Share Posted October 23, 2016 Hue has had a rough couple of games regarding game day management. Playing conservative and punting today on 4th & 2 before the half was his call, and while I wanted us to go for it, I understood the logic - get to 1/2 time down 4, see how the starting QB is doing, and try to win it in the 2nd 1/2.......... ............ then he called a defensive TO when Cincy was more than content to get to 1/2 time up 4..... Can't play both sides Hue, if you wanted to be aggressive then you should've gone for the 4th and 2, but once you didn't, then you needed to get to 1/2 time like you hoped for when you were on offense... If he doesn't call that TO, then the hail marry never happens. Bad, bad game day management. Hue screwed it up totally...AND...it ended in such a fashion as to HIGHLIGHT his screw ups. If you're too much of a wimp to go for it on 4th and 3 on their 38....why on earth would you ever call time out when the Bengals were willing to let you off the hook and go into half time? Especially since you only have 2 time outs anyway...and you've got a terrible defense.....and you're starting the 2nd half with the ball.... I defended Hue last week for going for the 2 point conversion when he did.....when all of the media people were chastising him....but today scared me. ----- ...and I don't like the idea of running the QB to make yards. We've got Kessler in the locker room....and we're running the QB, and he's not even sliding. Did that make any sense? (having said that...nice TD run by Hogan) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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