PoeticG Posted March 10, 2016 Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 The Cleveland Browns are building through the draft. We've all heard it time and time again. But now what that means is that it's time to get some of our drafted players out there and let them play. We have the talent across the board at all positions. We lost a couple good/great players to FA. Mack was a fan favorite but he walked away so I say if his heart isn't in it then we'll find someone who's heart is in it and he will be the better player for us. Cam Erving was a center drafted last year that was drafted in anticipation of what just occurred. Cam will take the spot and I'm confident that he will be an upgrade from Alex. Schwartz was a right tackle that many give accolades to but from what I was watching he wasn't all that he's cracked up to be. Did I like Mitchell? Sure, but there was an offer there and it was fair for a man of his talents. He decided to walk as well and that's fine. We'll plug another big ugly in there and probably wont see much of a drop off. Yeah our line has been decimated it seems but that same line was often times obliterated during the season. Too many holding calls and false starts and chopping and.... blah blah blah, for a line making that much money I didn't see the value in it. We still have JT, Bitonio, Greco and Erving, we should be able to plug that up just nicely. No need to panic. We lost Travis Benjamin, he was a good player for us. He should have took our offer but in this case it will work out for all parties. We don't have to eat a fat contract for a player that will probably be the #3 or #4 WR for us next year. We have quite the list of talented WRs on the depth chart as we speak. We already know, if he's reinstated, which he should be, Josh Gordon will be the Star Starting WR - #1. Then we have Dwayne Bowe who will play next year, he'll be utilized in some capacity to justify his hefty contract or he'll be gone. Brian Hartline will also be in play for the #2, he showed reliable hands and nice routes to open field last season. There's Hawkins and Gabriel who are a lot like Benjamin, small shifty fast guys with above average hands. We'll likely address a WR at some point in the draft, just to keep the fresh blood coming along. Gipson is okay but he's replaceable. He had a lot of picks but that was because QBs were just tossing them up there because our line was getting pressure. Last year Gipson had two picks and one was taken back by the WR which cost us the game. It's whatever he can go. I wonder if DeSir can play that position? We are stacked at CB anyways, the more you can do and all.. Speaking of CBs; Haden, Williams, Justin Gilbert, Ifo Ekpre Olomu and Charles Gaines are fitting to do work. Still the best secondary in the league. Get Gilbert out there, the guy is lightning. He can probably return kicks and punts better than Benjamin too! Still have Whitner and Poyer and Kwuan Williams. We will be straight in the secondary. We don't need Gipson. Actually, looking at our team now without all the dead weight- Mack, Schwartz, Benjamin, Gipson- that should clear a nice bit of cap and allow us to grow. Pruning some branches helps the tree grow better. This team has talent. This team has money and leadership now. Now it's time to find it's heart, and the fans to find theirs. Quit being so negative. We have like 5 decent RBs and 5 QBs on the roster. I think Duke Johnson is going to be a all-pro next season under a new offense and a screen genius. I haven't given up on Manziel like a lot of fickle fans have. He's still our most explosive weapon on Offense and if he gets his head together we could have an exciting offense to root for next year. Barnidge is as resourceful as it comes and there are a couple younger guys with some talents at TE as well. We have a good football team, you just need to know how to look at it. I think we go Best Player Available throughout the draft as we don't have a specific need anywhere. That means Joey Bosa at #2 and build a QB killing Defense that allows our flying Secondary to reap the benefits of hurried throws to the tune of many, many interceptions. Shelton, Cooper, Bryant, Hughes, Meder and Joey Bosa would be a killer line. And adding another in the second round, a player at #32 overall, it's like we won the Superbowl and are taking the last player in the first round! Make it count, take the best and most talented football player there as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted March 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2016 We should have a ton of cap space available as well ^ on top of all of that ^ Does anyone know the number on where we sit in terms of cap space available as of today? We have to be top 3 in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 And all along I expected a novel touting the positive attributes of Manziel...I feel slighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 ZzzzZZZzzzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 I haven't given up on Manziel like a lot of fickle fans have. He's still our most explosive weapon on Offense and if he gets his head together we could have an exciting offense to root for next year. Tee hee yuk yuk yuk... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 And all along I expected a novel touting the positive attributes of Manziel...I feel slighted. We're not keeping 5 QBs. Manziel (definitely) and Davis (likely) are Gonzo. Other than that PoG, I like your optimistic attitude. At least you didn't suggest trading the Ravens to bring Trent back. Right now, I'll predict 0-16 for the Browns, it can't get any worse- and it could get a whole lot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Post Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 It's FA time and every team wants some action. There's crazy money this year and teams are over paying. Brock O. gets 37 mil guaranteed? That's crazy he's done nothing to get that kind of dough. Just an example of teams overspending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillmotion Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 johnnys out man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMurray Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 The Cleveland Browns are building through the draft. We've all heard it time and time again. But now what that means is that it's time to get some of our drafted players out there and let them play. We have the talent across the board at all positions. We lost a couple good/great players to FA. Mack was a fan favorite but he walked away so I say if his heart isn't in it then we'll find someone who's heart is in it and he will be the better player for us. Cam Erving was a center drafted last year that was drafted in anticipation of what just occurred. Cam will take the spot and I'm confident that he will be an upgrade from Alex. Schwartz was a right tackle that many give accolades to but from what I was watching he wasn't all that he's cracked up to be. Did I like Mitchell? Sure, but there was an offer there and it was fair for a man of his talents. He decided to walk as well and that's fine. We'll plug another big ugly in there and probably wont see much of a drop off. Yeah our line has been decimated it seems but that same line was often times obliterated during the season. Too many holding calls and false starts and chopping and.... blah blah blah, for a line making that much money I didn't see the value in it. We still have JT, Bitonio, Greco and Erving, we should be able to plug that up just nicely. No need to panic. We lost Travis Benjamin, he was a good player for us. He should have took our offer but in this case it will work out for all parties. We don't have to eat a fat contract for a player that will probably be the #3 or #4 WR for us next year. We have quite the list of talented WRs on the depth chart as we speak. We already know, if he's reinstated, which he should be, Josh Gordon will be the Star Starting WR - #1. Then we have Dwayne Bowe who will play next year, he'll be utilized in some capacity to justify his hefty contract or he'll be gone. Brian Hartline will also be in play for the #2, he showed reliable hands and nice routes to open field last season. There's Hawkins and Gabriel who are a lot like Benjamin, small shifty fast guys with above average hands. We'll likely address a WR at some point in the draft, just to keep the fresh blood coming along. Gipson is okay but he's replaceable. He had a lot of picks but that was because QBs were just tossing them up there because our line was getting pressure. Last year Gipson had two picks and one was taken back by the WR which cost us the game. It's whatever he can go. I wonder if DeSir can play that position? We are stacked at CB anyways, the more you can do and all.. Speaking of CBs; Haden, Williams, Justin Gilbert, Ifo Ekpre Olomu and Charles Gaines are fitting to do work. Still the best secondary in the league. Get Gilbert out there, the guy is lightning. He can probably return kicks and punts better than Benjamin too! Still have Whitner and Poyer and Kwuan Williams. We will be straight in the secondary. We don't need Gipson. Actually, looking at our team now without all the dead weight- Mack, Schwartz, Benjamin, Gipson- that should clear a nice bit of cap and allow us to grow. Pruning some branches helps the tree grow better. This team has talent. This team has money and leadership now. Now it's time to find it's heart, and the fans to find theirs. Quit being so negative. We have like 5 decent RBs and 5 QBs on the roster. I think Duke Johnson is going to be a all-pro next season under a new offense and a screen genius. I haven't given up on Manziel like a lot of fickle fans have. He's still our most explosive weapon on Offense and if he gets his head together we could have an exciting offense to root for next year. Barnidge is as resourceful as it comes and there are a couple younger guys with some talents at TE as well. We have a good football team, you just need to know how to look at it. I think we go Best Player Available throughout the draft as we don't have a specific need anywhere. That means Joey Bosa at #2 and build a QB killing Defense that allows our flying Secondary to reap the benefits of hurried throws to the tune of many, many interceptions. Shelton, Cooper, Bryant, Hughes, Meder and Joey Bosa would be a killer line. And adding another in the second round, a player at #32 overall, it's like we won the Superbowl and are taking the last player in the first round! Make it count, take the best and most talented football player there as well. Aqib Talib, Chris Harris Jr, TJ Ward, and Darian Stewart say hi, best secondary in the league my ass. Dude you're delusional, Manziel is gone, I don't even want to tear this post to shreds anymore because it's just depressing at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taco918 Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 Aqib Talib, Chris Harris Jr, TJ Ward, and Darian Stewart say hi, best secondary in the league my ass. Dude you're delusional, Manziel is gone, I don't even want to tear this post to shreds anymore because it's just depressing at this point. You saying a post is depressing? Every single damn post you've made in the past two days has been depressing, woe is me bullshit. And you have the audacity to call the most optimistic member of this board depressing. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 Aqib Talib, Chris Harris Jr, TJ Ward, and Darian Stewart say hi, best secondary in the league my ass. Dude you're delusional, Manziel is gone, I don't even want to tear this post to shreds anymore because it's just depressing at this point. And Bradley Roby to boot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lodilobo Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 Mr. Haslam....please stay off the Browns board, at least until after the draft. You have more important things to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lodilobo Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 Wow!....I never experienced laughing, puking and crying at the same time before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 You saying a post is depressing? Every single damn post you've made in the past two days has been depressing, woe is me bullshit. And you have the audacity to call the most optimistic member of this board depressing. Wow. what i think he's saying is PoG is blind to what is happening around him. staying in a house that is burning up around you. i like Po's post except for the manziel love, but we all knew that was coming. if this is a rebuild then i hope haslam and the fans know this shit doesn't happen overnite. maybe three years from now we might see some upward movements from a smart and dead on draft this year. hope haslam has the patience cuz it's been 2 and done up to this point for a regime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClevelandFanForLife Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 This is a complete rebuild guys. It's going to get rough like '99 and I'm ok with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 This is a complete rebuild guys. It's going to get rough like '99 and I'm ok with that. Someone else said, this is like an expansion team now, more or less. We're not getting close to the playoffs any time soon, but hopefully we are going to build the right way, or this will be extremely bad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 We should have a ton of cap space available as well ^ on top of all of that ^ Does anyone know the number on where we sit in terms of cap space available as of today? We have to be top 3 in the league. Is there a cap minimum? That's the only number we need to be concerned with. Zombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 i like Po's post except for the manziel love, but we all knew that was coming. Did try to slip it past us tho... lil' fella just couldn't help himself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 Is there a cap minimum? That's the only number we need to be concerned with. Zombo Yes. Not sure what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 Yes. Not sure what it is. http://www.dawgsbynature.com/2016/3/8/11181686/cleveland-browns-salary-cap-understanding-the-89-cash-spending Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 Well good, bad or indifferent you have to admit the Browns find unique ways to provide year round entertainment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 Is there a cap minimum? That's the only number we need to be concerned with. Zombo I thought it was like 89% of the cap maximum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 This is a complete rebuild guys. It's going to get rough like '99 and I'm ok with that. Andy, good to see a post from you & I agree. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 I thought it was like 89% of the cap maximum. Averaged out over a four year period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 The Cleveland Browns will be alright. Why?: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furious Styles Posted March 11, 2016 Report Share Posted March 11, 2016 I stopped at,"then we have Dwayne Bowe who will play next year".........LMAO ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 Is there a cap minimum? That's the only number we need to be concerned with. Zombo Yes and the owner gets to keep whatever he doesn't spend. One of Mike Brown's trademarks through the lean years. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joedawg69 Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 Furious, maybe they meant Bowe would be the new towel boy or water boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furious Styles Posted March 12, 2016 Report Share Posted March 12, 2016 Furious, maybe they meant Bowe would be the new towel boy or water boy. In all honesty, the towel and water boys contributiions to the Browns were greater than Bowes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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