bbedward Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 http://abcnews.go.com/US/violent-protests-erupt-charlotte-deadly-police-shooting/story?id=42238697 Basically: - Police went to serve a warrant to a guy - a different guy exited a vehicle. Police say he had a gun, bystanders say he had a book (police said they recovered a firearm at the scene but obviously we should wait for facts unlike the rioters) - Black guy gets shot by black police officer - Instead of waiting for an investigation or facts, there's riots, looting, blocking freeways nearly immediately. And more people chanting the "Hands up don't shoot" lie. BLM continues to discredit their cause Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 it's an old trick, cut out the interior of pages in a book, and use if as a safe. you can even buy them now. Facts don't matter to "revolutionaries" who don't have a cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 WATCH: Charlotte police chief explains why officers shot Keith Lamont Scott "I’m so disgusted right now. These BLM protesters obviously don’t care about facts. All they care is that the man who was shot was black. As it turns out, the cops were once again correct in shooting Keith Lamont Scott. He had a gun and he wouldn’t drop it. I so hate what’s been done to this country by Obama, Sharpton, the Congressional Black Caucus, and Black Lives Matter. They used Trayvon Martin to gin up blacks to go vote for Obama. Then Michael Brown came along and they claimed that he was a gentle giant shot by cops in the back. None of it true. And Freddie Gray and on and on. Obama, Sharpton, the Congressional Black Caucus, Black Lives Matter, and others have now created a protest monster, a monster that assumes racism where there is none. A monster who believes racist white cops are out hunting down black people. This is the legacy of Obama. Instead of bringing the country together, he’s balkanized it for political purposes. And it’s disgusting." http://therightscoop.com/watch-charlotte-police-chief-explains-why-officers-shot-keith-lamont-scott/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 it's an old trick, cut out the interior of pages in a book, and use if as a safe. you can even buy them now. Facts don't matter to "revolutionaries" who don't have a cause. I am guessing the locals are saying it is a book because they want the dumb criminal to seem like a swell guy. "He was just trying to read his Bible and then a murderous policeman arrived." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Hey its still hot out, no job, loot get some free malt liquor and burn some cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 All I'm saying is that same day black people witnessed a black man who simply had a stalled vehicle get murdered with his hands up. You can't not bring that shit up and point fingers at the same time. If I were a black person I'd honestly be terrified of police. Fear brings out the worst in people right or wrong. It's a vicious cycle, and it's a matter of condoning bad activities. It starts with police officers not murdering people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 All I'm saying is that same day black people witnessed a black man who simply had a stalled vehicle get murdered with his hands up. You can't not bring that shit up and point fingers at the same time. If I were a black person I'd honestly be terrified of police. Fear brings out the worst in people right or wrong. It's a vicious cycle, and it's a matter of condoning bad activities. It starts with police officers not murdering people. There is zero justification for torching your own neighborhood and robbing your neighbors. If something makes you afraid or angry, do you walk over to your neighbor's house and steal his TV to show the source of your fear who is boss? Take it up with the cops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 There is zero justification for torching your own neighborhood and robbing your neighbors. If something makes you afraid or angry, do you walk over to your neighbor's house and steal his TV to show the source of your fear who is boss? Take it up with the cops. I'd rather them torch their own neighborhood than mine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 I'd rather them torch their own neighborhood than mine. I would rather they have half a fucking brain and loot no one. Lofty goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 I would rather they have half a fucking brain and loot no one. Lofty goal. You're an idealist. That ain't happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 There is zero justification for torching your own neighborhood and robbing your neighbors. If something makes you afraid or angry, do you walk over to your neighbor's house and steal his TV to show the source of your fear who is boss? Take it up with the cops. People have tried taking it up with the cops and end up dead on the ground for a traffic stop. I'm not justifying it, but it's not like people are looting on no premise. Also, the vast majority of people are trying to do this the right way. It's the bad apples that get the air time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Post Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 I really can't understand... Why it's so bad for Trump to say a bombing is a terrorist act, which it was and it's ok for some to jump to conclusions on a police shooting before the facts come out. Unbelievable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 People have tried taking it up with the cops and end up dead on the ground for a traffic stop. I'm not justifying it, but it's not like people are looting on no premise. Also, the vast majority of people are trying to do this the right way. It's the bad apples that get the air time. You can take it up with the police by organizing for change (ex: collecting money for officer cameras for departments that can't afford them; educating officers and community members on how to deescalate interactions etc.). Not organizing to burn shit. But I guess being mistreated by the police is a premise for burning down your own neighborhood and robbing people on your block but not for actually wanting to change anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 You can take it up with the police by organizing for change (ex: collecting money for officer cameras for departments that can't afford them; educating officers and community members on how to deescalate interactions etc.). Not organizing to burn shit. But I guess being mistreated by the police is a premise for burning down your own neighborhood and robbing people on your block but not for actually wanting to change anything. They have tried taking it up with the police and nothing has changed. They try to trust the police to investigate murders, but they never get tried or get off for killing someone in cold blood. This is exactly the problem. People feel high and mighty making this statement like the system works if it was followed "correctly". That's the damn problem though-the system is broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 They have tried taking it up with the police and nothing has changed. They try to trust the police to investigate murders, but they never get tried or get off for killing someone in cold blood. This is exactly the problem. People feel high and mighty making this statement like the system works if it was followed "correctly". That's the damn problem though-the system is broken. Well then I guess the most logical thing to do is to steal your neighbor's TV. Pooling together money to have a legal team? Nah. Pressure elected officials with public attention to get money raised for police cameras? Nah. Inform communities about the idea of jury nullification in cases where county and state prosecutors are corrupt? Nah. Only option is to get those sweet new kicks from the store down the street after someone puts a cinderblock through the window. Don't give me that horse shit about how nothing can be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 Well then I guess the most logical thing to do is to steal your neighbor's TV. Pooling together money to have a legal team? Nah. Pressure elected officials with public attention to get money raised for police cameras? Nah. Inform communities about the idea of jury nullification in cases where county and state prosecutors are corrupt? Nah. Only option is to get those sweet new kicks from the store down the street after someone puts a cinderblock through the window. Don't give me that horse shit about how nothing can be done. You think we're disagreeing with each other but we're not. Let me break it down based on what you said though These families have had good lawyers-doesn't make a difference. Body Cameras have been put on officers-still not getting charged with murder and getting acquitted with even better footage of the fact now! Jury Nullification-Do you really think that shit would work (it won't). It's easy for you to puff out your chest and say this crap because in theory if the system worked those would be solutions. As I've said three times now, the system is critically broken and shit like what you're suggesting has made no God damn difference. It doesn't mean people should loot, but I can understand the rage of being on the wrong side of a system where people are dead in the street. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted September 21, 2016 Report Share Posted September 21, 2016 You think we're disagreeing with each other but we're not. Let me break it down based on what you said though These families have had good lawyers-doesn't make a difference. Body Cameras have been put on officers-still not getting charged with murder and getting acquitted with even better footage of the fact now! Jury Nullification-Do you really think that shit would work (it won't). It's easy for you to puff out your chest and say this crap because in theory if the system worked those would be solutions. As I've said three times now, the system is critically broken and shit like what you're suggesting has made no God damn difference. It doesn't mean people should loot, but I can understand the rage of being on the wrong side of a system where people are dead in the street. Like I said before, someone with a supposed 'super intelligent brain with their head up their ass'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 You think we're disagreeing with each other but we're not. Let me break it down based on what you said though These families have had good lawyers-doesn't make a difference. Body Cameras have been put on officers-still not getting charged with murder and getting acquitted with even better footage of the fact now! Jury Nullification-Do you really think that shit would work (it won't). It's easy for you to puff out your chest and say this crap because in theory if the system worked those would be solutions. As I've said three times now, the system is critically broken and shit like what you're suggesting has made no God damn difference. It doesn't mean people should loot, but I can understand the rage of being on the wrong side of a system where people are dead in the street. Not once has jury nullification or an organized effort for creating a legal team supplied by the NAACP or BLM been mentioned by the vocal leaders. So if they haven't been mentioned and they haven't been done, then how did they already fail? You just sound like you are whining and hand wringing to justify shitty behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 I would be interested in hearing what you think could or should be done given you think everything ever has been tried and failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinkHole Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 They have tried taking it up with the police and nothing has changed. They try to trust the police to investigate murders, but they never get tried or get off for killing someone in cold blood. This is exactly the problem. People feel high and mighty making this statement like the system works if it was followed "correctly". That's the damn problem though-the system is broken. Stuart What a fuckin bunch of garbage. You know whats broken? The black community is broken. Fix that first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 DISGUSTING: Charlotte rioters try to toss unconscious photographer INTO A FIRE WCCB reports tonight that "protesters" in Charlotte attempted to set a photographer on fire. The reporter on scene stated that they set fire to a trash can, then blocked firetrucks from getting to the fire, and then tried to throw a still photographer into the fire. http://www.redstate.com/absentee/2016/09/21/chaos-charlotteprotest-rioters-attempt-set-photographer-fire/ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfxCDnARNOI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 But OBF that is their only recourse! That photographer oppressed them with his whiteness! I am sure he knoww a cop and that is guilt by association. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 It bothers me when I see police stand idly by while rioters loot and burn stores and business and other forms of destruction. There should be a zero tolerance for rioters. When rioters get by without consequences for their actions it just encourages more of it. There is a huge difference between rioting and protesting. Protesting is fine...rioting should never be tolerated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Rioting and protesting are both worthless as long as you're not addressing the root cause of your grievance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted September 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Some of the rioters are hurting+shooting each other, I thought black lives mattered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldBrownsFan Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Don’t expect the DOJ to investigate this hate crime.It goes against their narrative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted September 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 I don't see how somebody like jrb can defend this frankly, the very least they can do is wait for facts. People act like cops go around slaughtering blacks and that is false. I mean 1) I would never never get out of my car with my gun in my hand unless I was prepared to use it 2) if I refused to drop said gun in hand after multiple police told me to I think my chances of being shot would be pretty high. The number 26% of police shootings are against blacks (50% against whites) isn't that crazy racist given the per capita crime rate in their communities. Many times we see black officers doing the shooting, are they uncle toms that are just butchering their own race? It's a perfectly reasonable cause to want to reform the police - make them smarter when it comes to using deadly force, hold them accountable. The fact that the entire cause is about race and nothing else has discredited the entire thing though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Post Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 If a cop shoots anyone and the police investigates wrong doing by the officer...the officer needs to go to prison. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted September 22, 2016 Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Wrong. If you send the cops to prison for doing their job you're promoting lawlessness. Why have cops? Why not just live in the middle east or Africa or somewhere similarly anarchic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted September 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2016 Everytime a cop shoots someone it gets investigated Anytime anybody shoots someone it gets investigated Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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