The Gipper Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 The statement that the ban was horseshit was what I was referring to Trust me, none of your statements are hard to comprehend. It is very obvious what you're attempting to say or troll Who said anything about the ban being horseshit or not. I am simply saying that without the ban, an 12-0 Ohio State team would have to be considered a contender for a national title. Is there anything about that you disagree with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 If I remember correctly, OSU could have self imposed the bowl ban the year before when they went 6-6, but Gene Smith chose not to. I think he thought they were bullet proof. It is also hard to praise the transparency of the athletic department when the issue surrounded a coach lying to the NCAA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 Who said anything about the ban being horseshit or not. I am simply saying that without the ban, an 12-0 Ohio State team would have to be considered a contender for a national title. Is there anything about that you disagree with? My original post in the chain was a response to Cysko's. It sounded like, to me at least, he was describing the bowl ban as horse shit. I don't remember all of the teams at the top that year (was that the ND vs Bama year?) but yes, OSU would have been strongly in consideration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 At least Vagitron trolls for a good team I don't think you understand what trolling is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 I don't think you understand what trolling is We have our own definition of trolling: If you are not a Browns fan and you post on this forum.....you are a troll. And we don't give a damn how "nice" you may be. For the "College Football Forum" I guess it can be different. This isn't the "Buckeyes Board"....so even though you are a fan/alum of that team up north....you may not be a troll per se. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 My original post in the chain was a response to Cysko's. It sounded like, to me at least, he was describing the bowl ban as horse shit. Well, the punishment for the whole selling of trinkets.....trinkets which belonged personally to those players....for tattoos or a little bit of cash....is pure pettiness given that we are pretty certain that the SEC throws around hundreds of thousands of dollars under the table for their players. It really warranted nothing more than a slight slap on the wrist. But, yes, the failure to disclose those technical violations is what got the team/coach in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 If I remember correctly, OSU could have self imposed the bowl ban the year before when they went 6-6, but Gene Smith chose not to. I think he thought they were bullet proof. It is also hard to praise the transparency of the athletic department when the issue surrounded a coach lying to the NCAA. OSU offered to self impose the bowl ban but the NCAA kind went "meh" until they threw down their own little gauntlet. One coach lying to the NCAA hardly befits the narrative that the athletic department wasn't "transparent". I'll also give Tressel this credit, once the emails were out there - he fully cooperated. Again, this in stark contrast to what you see/saw at USC and Miami with allegations that make what happened at tOSU look like nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 He fully cooperated after he got caught lying? Hard to give Tressel any benefit of the doubt with the track record he had before that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted January 28, 2015 Report Share Posted January 28, 2015 Gipper, the punishment for the players caught selling stuff was their suspensions. Which got waived for the Biwl Game and some just left without having to sit out. I agree though, the SEC does much worse stuff on a daily basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 Gipper, the punishment for the players caught selling stuff was their suspensions. Which got waived for the Biwl Game and some just left without having to sit out. I agree though, the SEC does much worse stuff on a daily basis. Well, they would have probably had like a one game suspension for that.....which could have been served at some point in the season. There would have been no bowl ban for that. Tressel not being forthcoming got the bowl ban. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted January 29, 2015 Report Share Posted January 29, 2015 I understand the bowl ban resulted from Tressel lying. I thought the players suspensions were 4 games starting the next season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 I understand the bowl ban resulted from Tressel lying. I thought the players suspensions were 4 games starting the next season? I don't recall what they were....but 4 games would have been absurd. For selling or trading your own property for very little? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted January 30, 2015 Report Share Posted January 30, 2015 The rule is dumb, but rules are rules. I agree with you, they should be able too. But there is no grey area there. And they got to play in the bowl game, so they probably extended it to make up for it Didn't Dez Bryant lose an entire season for something even dumber? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Tressel any benefit of the doubt with the track record he had before that. Record before that ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Start at YSU and go from there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 Start at YSU and go from there So 5 National Titles and going 9-1 against meatchicken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted January 31, 2015 Report Share Posted January 31, 2015 So 5 National Titles and going 9-1 against meatchicken. So 5 National Titles and going 9-1 against meatchicken. Ya... Just that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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