calfoxwc Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 they won't accept Israelis/Jews...... if you favor a "palestinian state"... may as well favor a separate state for the KKK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 To be fair, even Israel has programs and benefits that are only given to Jews. They will be going tit-for-tat until the end of time. I can see Israel's point of never wanting Palestine to be its own sovereign country but I don't pretend that Israel is an angel in all of it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Why would Palestinians accept Jews at this point after all they've done to them? Would you tell a Ukrainian at this point to accept the Russians in his country along with Tsar Putin? And the russians haven't done a fraction to the Ukrainians that the Israeli's have done to the palestinians. And equating palestinians with the KKK is some kind of medical/psychological cry for help, it's gotta be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Why would Palestinians accept Jews at this point after all they've done to them? WSS What might that be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legacy Fan Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 WSS What might that be? Not turning the other cheek? Oh wait.. that was teaching from Jesus.. umm.... I'm stumped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted September 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Sorry, I went too fast again, and didn't get the link pasted. http://mondoweiss.net/2010/08/israel-says-video-of-crying-palestinian-boy-was-staged And, Cleve? Seriously? What the "palestinians" have done to THEM? Like, giving up the Sinai, Gaza strip, and most of the West Bank for peace? You think THAT worked??? Again, Cleve - man, you need to read up on history before you vent. http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Peace/peace_with_Egypt.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab%E2%80%93Israeli_War Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted September 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Learn history. The "poor palestinians" are poor because of their historical hatred for Jews, their lack of a state of their own is of their own making. Israel has been declared war on in 1948 - because of arab hatred for Jews. and again in 1967. The palestinians have created their own hell, they forced it upon themselves in refusing to stop hostilities toward the EXISTENCE of Israel and Jews in general. http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=7&x_issue=83&x_article=2116 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbluhm86 Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Peace in the Holy Land is never going to happen as long as Islam, Christianity and Judaism are involved in the process. Jews claim that Israel was promised to them by God and that their ultimate goal is to rebuild the Third Temple in Jerusalam, which is made worse by Zionist Jewish groups like the Temple Mount Institute and Chai Vekayam, who would seek to do so violently. Then you have the Muslims who have their Al Aqsa mosque, sacred to Islam, currently sitting where the Jews want to build their Temple. If you think that Muslims get upset just by seeing drawings of their prophet in cartoons, then I can only imagine the bloodshed from attempting to destroy one of their holy sites. And then you have Christian elements who either want the Holy Land for themselves or are willing to stop at nothing to help Jewish groups destroy the mosque and rebuild the Temple as part of some crackpot plan to bring about the end of days/messianic era. So as long as religion plays a significant roll in the process, peace in the Middle East is simply not going to happen. If this was simply a land dispute, this would have been resolved long ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted September 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 Only because the arabic muslims refuse to share Jerusalem with Jews. Not the other way around. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/a-quiet-street-in-jerusalem-becomes-a-new-front-line-between-israelis-palestinians/2015/09/28/30ed8562-617a-11e5-8475-781cc9851652_story.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 If this was simply a land dispute, this would have been resolved long ago.But it is simply land dispute and it was settled years ago. The West Bank and Gaza were decided when Israel was attacked, and the invaders driven out. Simple as that. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairHooker11 Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 and the Sinai Peninsula that was siezed in the 67 war was given back to Egypt many believe that the 1st and 2nd temple were positioned where the muslim shrine is now. when many others believe that site is part of an old roman fort and the actual temple site was just east of the wall near the Kidron valley http://www.generationword.com/jerusalem101/18-gihon-springs.html and Gihon springs. temple sacrifice required water and a way to "clean up" the remains but there were no such systems at the temple mount site - verified by limited excavation only. * The second temple built by Herod wouldve been built on the same site as the 1st - but the bible says it was destroyed completely by the romans after Jesus said it would be. Mark 13:1-2 *archeological digs in the jewish quadrant in Jerusalem did find a roman coins underneath one of the foundation stones of the western wall. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2065254/Coins-Jerusalems-Western-Wall-hints-sacred-site-older-Herod.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairHooker11 Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 so biblical prophecy and its history are equally acurate. and the construction of that 3rd temple will in no way create strife between the jew and the muslim.... but of course we all DO know and can predict that the outcry once the wheels are in motion for the next and FINAL temple - will be the usual violent reaction given by the worlds most misunderstood religion of peace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairHooker11 Posted September 30, 2015 Report Share Posted September 30, 2015 And then you have Christian elements who either want the Holy Land for themselves or are willing to stop at nothing to help Jewish groups destroy the mosque and rebuild the Temple as part of some crackpot plan to bring about the end of days/messianic era. I can see the ecumenical CHRISLAM movement led by the catholics in that endeavor to hold such a claim but as things are, the christians and jews are at peace with one another and are not the instigators to violence..... maranatha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted October 1, 2015 Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 Sorry, I went too fast again, and didn't get the link pasted. http://mondoweiss.net/2010/08/israel-says-video-of-crying-palestinian-boy-was-staged And, Cleve? Seriously? What the "palestinians" have done to THEM? Like, giving up the Sinai, Gaza strip, and most of the West Bank for peace? You think THAT worked??? Again, Cleve - man, you need to read up on history before you vent. http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Peace/peace_with_Egypt.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab%E2%80%93Israeli_War what did any of those links have to do with or even refute the fact that the western powers after ww2 forcefully evicted the Palestinians who had been living on that land for almost 2000 years in order to create a zionist state for the Jews? If you hold some christian zionist views that the messiah won't return until the Jews reclaim babylon, that's fine..and I know that's what this is about with you btw. But you still have to have "some" empathy for a people that got evicted from their lands for no reason other than biblical entitlement. The palestinians did absolutely nothing to deserve that. Did the Arab nations surrounding that land want a Jewish state in their midst? No they didn't. So western christians forcibly created a doomed to fail nation in teh middle of muslim country. YEah well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted October 1, 2015 Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 guess who ceases to exist if anythign major were to happen to the U.S where we had to contract and not be able to support our allies as much as usual. Think the country with zero allies and no trading partners in it's immediate vicinity? yeah right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted October 1, 2015 Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 guess who ceases to exist if anythign major were to happen to the U.S where we had to contract and not be able to support our allies as much as usual. Think the country with zero allies and no trading partners in it's immediate vicinity? yeah right. Everyone who counts themselves a part of the civilized world. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted October 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 Well, Cleve - it's baloney. Read and learn. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2941775/posts http://science.co.il/History-Palestine.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted October 1, 2015 Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 Well, Cleve - it's baloney. Read and learn. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2941775/posts http://science.co.il/History-Palestine.php "Israel Science and Technology Homepage". You linked me an article from what basically amounts to the propaganda wing of Israeili intelligence. Well done cal. In any case I can already see the age old case they were trying to make...because the Palestinians didn't have some kind of officially recognized country it was ok to move them off land they had been living on for 1800+ years, into refugee camps. Where a bunch still are. These are stone hard facts. Period, end of discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted October 1, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 ah. so the link you bitch about, and then you have no link to support your rambing and changes of subjects every time you end up tasting your own shoes. par for the course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted October 1, 2015 Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 no link necessary here, this is common history. I don't need to furnish links to internet sites that prove the sky is blue either. You're just licking your own balls again for fun apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted October 1, 2015 Report Share Posted October 1, 2015 and there are zero subj changes out of me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted October 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2015 http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/10/03/palestinian-kills-two-israelis-wounds-toddler-in-jerusalem-hamas-praises-heroic-attack/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted October 7, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2015 http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/10/06/israeli-stabbing-survivor-details-how-palestinian-bystanders-stood-by-and-laughed-while-her-husband-bled-to-death/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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