Boehner the pansy panty-waist to resign

[Pumpkin Eater]

What a douche, too much of a wimp to stand up to Obama, the weakest president in history.

[Clevfan4life]

too much crying, srsly. I wanted to email his office to tell them to get him a script for some testosterone. I mean it's perfectly ok for a man to cry when, say, his dog dies or something. But this dude would cry during press conferences and state of the unions. Literally left me speechless like dude..wtf are you doing?

[DieHardBrownsFan]

He was worthless anyway.

 

[OldBrownsFan]

To me Boehner is the poster child for why we need term limits. After too many years in DC he "got wobbly" on us.

[Browns149]

The guy would cry if he ordered bacon and got sausage on his grand slam breakfast

[OldBrownsFan]

if true no wonder the republican voters don't trust the GOP establishment.

 

Ted Cruz Slams Outgoing John Boehner Over ‘Early Reports’ That He ‘Cut a Deal’ With Nancy Pelosi Before Resigning

 

 

WASHINGTON — Hours after House Speaker John Boehner announced that he would be resigning from Congress, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz added fuel to the fire by saying he’d heard “early reports” that Boehner cut a deal with Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi to continue funding some of President Barack Obama’s most controversial measures.

“I will say, the early reports are discouraging. If it is correct that the speaker, before he resigns, has cut a deal with Nancy Pelosi to fund the Obama administration for the rest of its tenure, to fund Obamacare, to fund executive amnesty, to fund Planned Parenthood, to fund implementation of this Iran deal — and then, presumably, to land in a cushy K Street job after joining with the Democrats to implement all of President Obama’s priorities, that is not the behavior one would expect of a Republican speaker of the House,” Cruz told reporters at the conservative Values Voter Summit in Washington.

 

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/09/25/ted-cruz-slams-outgoing-john-boehner-over-early-reports-that-he-cut-a-deal-with-nancy-pelosi-before-resigning/

[DieHardBrownsFan]

Fucking pussy.

[Pumpkin Eater]

Rino douchebag

[Browns149]

Maybe now he can hitch his quitter coat tails to the next Republican nominee

[Dste Ace]

Ironic justice.

 

Boehner was the original Let's-bring-all-semblance-of-governance-to-a-screeching-halt-in-

order-to-deny-the-Negro-the-smallest-of-accomplishments-even-if-it-was-our-idea-in-the-

first-place.

 

The revolution always eventually eats it's young.

[Clevfan4life]

Ironic justice.

 

Boehner was the original Let's-bring-all-semblance-of-governance-to-a-screeching-halt-in-

order-to-deny-the-Negro-the-smallest-of-accomplishments-even-if-it-was-our-idea-in-the-

first-place.

 

The revolution always eventually eats it's young.

 

well put.

[Westside Steve]

Ironic justice.

 

Boehner was the original Let's-bring-all-semblance-of-governance-to-a-screeching-halt-in-

order-to-deny-the-Negro-the-smallest-of-accomplishments-even-if-it-was-our-idea-in-the-

first-place.

 

The revolution always eventually eats it's young.

Do you guys have such a dearth of ideas that you have to play the race card on each and every issue?

 

The president would be an arrogant empty suit no matter what color he was. And if you listen to the Democrats the United States has turned the corner and is on the shining path to prosperity thanks to President Obama. So if the evil John Boehner has thwarted him at every turn how could that be?

 

WSS

[Dste Ace]

I probably didn't need to refer to race, but the fact remains that Boehner was an architect of the

"say no to everything he attempts" faction. Since 2008, Republicans have had a visceral reaction---

just like they did with Bill Clinton in the 90's---to Obama. It has been evident since day one---before

Obamacare, or Iran, or Planned Parenthood---that there is absolutely nothing Obama could do to

please Republicans.

 

Boehner was run out of town by the extremists precisely because he didn't thwart Obama at every turn.

His sin was that he recognized that although the Republicans control the House, that doesn't mean that

they get everything they want when they want it. There is still the Senate filibuster and the Presidential

veto---checks and balances---to be dealt with. You can vote 50+ times to overturn Obamacare and vote

to defund Planned Parenthood until you're blue in the face but it is just pissing in the wind if you don't have

60 votes in the Senate and Obama sitting back with veto pen at the ready.

 

And that isn't going to change no matter how far right the new Speaker is.

[calfoxwc]

Ace, that's ridiculous.

 

this dirtbag president you are defending is an anti-American bastard.

 

Trying to stop obamaocare is preventing the "blacks from accomplishing" ....

 

lol. Stop it.

 

And, trying to stop the mass murder of so many babies, most of them black....

is stopping...

 

think before vent.

[Dste Ace]

Well, I certainly wasn't trying to get involved in this boards typical "Democrats suck! No! Republicans suck!" melee.

I'm on record on this board as holding both D and R's in equal contempt.

 

I was trying to point out the overall irony of Boehner being brought down by the very people he welcomed and cultivated.

Once again, Boehner was the original architect of the "We will stonewall everything THIS PRESIDENT tries to do, even if

it was originally our idea". In 2010 the Tea Party came along, and Boehner and the rest of the R's said "Oh, you hate the

President? So do we! Come on in!"

 

And I don't know where the fuck you got that I'm defending Obama or baby killers or blacks or any such nonsense.

What I said is that controlling the House does not give the R's an open highway to do whatever they want. They still

need 60 votes in the Senate and are still roadblocked by the Presidential veto pen. That's not defending Obama or the

mass murder of black babies or Nazi brownshirts----that is merely recognizing simple math.

 

You can have vote after vote after vote to repeal Obamacare or defund Planned Parenthood but until you have the votes

in the Senate you're just pissing in the wind. The extreme wing wants to shut the government down (again) but that is a really

bad idea if the R's want to actually win the WH in 2016. Like it or not, fairly or unfairly, the majority of the American electorate

will blame the R's if there is a government shutdown. And Boehner recognized that and paid dearly.

 

The fact of the matter is that the R's snatched defeat from the jaws of victory in 2012. Obama was weak and very beatable.

But then came legitimate rape and vaginal probes and the 47 percent and the next thing you know Obama is reelected and

Jindal is saying we have to stop being the party of stupid. And now the D's are even weaker---Hillary is circling the drain and

there is no way in blue hell that Bernie Sanders or Joe Biden should have a chance in hell of being elected President---but the

TP wants to shut down the government over Planned Parenthood and Boehner recognized what a loser idea that is and he was

brought down by the same extremists he cultivated in 2010.

 

Ironic justice.

[MLD Woody]

Well, I certainly wasn't trying to get involved in this boards typical "Democrats suck! No! Republicans suck!" melee.

I'm on record on this board as holding both D and R's in equal contempt.

 

 

i've never seen that fight on here...

[calfoxwc]

well, the answer to that, is that the left plays vicious hardball, while the

rino right plays backgammon.

 

When they did shut down the gov, it was with frightened leadership that

didn't embolden any dems.

 

And the dems claimed all sorts of wild eyed stupidass claims, you know, "fear mongering" that they

label Reps with...

like "social security will stop and people will die". etc etc etc etc etc.

And a lot of people were terrified. But none of that was true. Essential services still got paid.

 

It's the slugs of society prominent dems play to, emotionally, regardless of how much a lie....

because with the low information voters - it plays well.

The truth is - Obamaocare was a giant lie. The need for a solution was genuine - the dems asswipe answer

was a gigantic control freak bunch of lies - a huge political power gambit.

"if you like your dr, you can keep your dr." "will lower everybody's med ins premiums by 2500 dollars a year".

lies. Blatant, intentional political expediency's sakes...lies. Now, Obamaocare is a gigantic clusterfook.

 

Boehner promised peelosi that he wouldn't use the nuclear option. Hell, the DEMS did it ... and at one point,

they locked republicans out of the chambers !

 

And, Ace, you're a fool to think the tea party folks are extremists. I've been to a few rallies, and I know tea party people.

Lower taxes, smaller gov.

And boehner was never an architect of anything. That's bs.

 

read up on it - the beginning of the Tea Party started with Rick Santelli's rant on the merchantile exchange in Chicago.

 

"Do we really want to subsidize the losers' mortgages?" he asked. "This is America! How many of you people want to pay for your neighbor's mortgage that has an extra bathroom and can't pay their bills?" He went on to suggest that he would organize a Chicago Tea Party in July, where capitalists would dump "some derivative securities into Lake Michigan." The video of his tirade became a YouTube hit, and the movement was born. Within weeks, Tea Party protests were sprouting up all over the country. The Tea Party name, a clear reference to the American colonists' dumping of tea into Boston Harbor to protest taxes imposed by King George, stands as an acronym as well: Taxed Enough Already.

Santelli, however, can't claim credit as the sole mastermind of the movement. Prior to his appearance in Chicago, Keli Carender, a Seattle at-home mother also known as Liberty Belle, had been using her blog to get the word out about the populist "Porkulus Protest" she was organizing against President Barack Obama's proposed $750 billion stimulus package. About 100 people showed up for her event in mid-February. Similar events inspired by both Santelli and Carender, followed in quick succession in Denver; Mesa, Ariz.; Tampa, Fla.; and other cities. Tea Party organizers claim that the first nationwide Tea Party protest took place on February 27, 2009, with coordinated events occurring in more than 40 cities.

http://www.infoplease.com/us/government/tea-party-history.html

[calfoxwc]

how to the dems always vote when they have no chance of passing a bill ?

 

they don't give a frak. They vote for bills that have NO chance of being Constitutional, or being

anything more than a minority dishonest theatrical performance. And if they stray from a

cohesive vote - the long arm of the higher level of lefties in politics will financially doom

their careers.

 

Bringing race into the discussion is just ignorant. Remember a lot of dems voted for the obamaocare bill

out of politics - since many even admitted they sure the hell never read it first.

 

And fighting to save the lives of millions of unborn and born children - out of principle and honor...

is never a bogus fight. And a lot of dems seriously questioned the Iran deal - but later, one by one, they

were intimidated to vote along with the dems in power.

 

And voting to force Obamao to accept or veto is the right thing to do. Wilting like cowards and dishonest players

is never the right thing to do. Political expediency that sends our country further into severe debt, and moral decay,

and way larger gov overreach into Americans' lives - is sure not the right thing to do. That is why Boehner resigned -

he's been called out on being a sissy, whining coward.

 

when the dems had control over congress, they played vicious to the hilt. They go for "low blows" like raccoons go

for sandwiches left out overnight in a campground.

[Dste Ace]

Oh, absolutely, the D's play hardball. R's like to make fun of Nancy Pelosi but, from everything I've read,

the woman is tough as nails and brooks no bullshit. She runs a tight ship and keeps everyone (D's) in line.

 

As far as TP being extremist, well, sometimes perception is reality.

 

Look, bottom line is the D's a vulnerable. I haven't had a conversation with one single person over the last

two months who thinks the nuclear agreement with Iran is a good deal. Our ME policy has seemingly devolved to

shrugging our shoulders and saying "Eh, whatcanyado?" Hillary is taking a torpedo in the side on a daily basis.

The backbone middle class is a fond memory.

 

R's want to repeal Obamacare, defund PP and drive the filthy queers back under a rock like the good ole days?

Then take back the White House. Line the SC with a couple more Clarence Thomas' and Anthony Scalias.

The D's are handing you the WH on a silver platter. TAKE the fucking thing!

 

The American people are waiting for a leader. Shutting down the government over PP plays well to the base

(a minority in the electorate BTW) but to the majority of the electorate it indicates narrow thinking. Doing away

with gay marriage plays well to a small sliver of the base but the majority of Americans are OK with it. Candidates

need to recognize these realities and stop rushing to Kentucky to stand onstage with a woman who is widely

perceived as a narrow-minded nutjob. Focus on the prize and stop being distracted by the squirrels.

 

Obama won 50 percent of the vote twice. Only three other U.S. Presidents in history have done that. These

narrow issues that only play to a minority of the base are not going to put R's in the WH. How many times are

R's going form the circular firing squad before it sinks in?

[Westside Steve]

Of course all of that is true Ace, but keep in mind that job number 1 of the houses is to stop the president if he's a member of the other party. Nancy Pelosi proudly stated the intention to stop bush. That's how it works. And the party in power is job is to force it through the strainer no matter whether or not they understand it or if it's good for the Country. Those two cases would be Obamacare and the nuclear deal respectively. And I think you guys know I was a lukewarm supporter of Obamacare but think they fucked it up by forcing it through too quickly. And for those who bray about Republicans just being obstructionist look at the time they tried to force the president to put it on hold for a year to figure things out. What happened? Outrage! The people blah blah blah. And then what happened? They found out that they're fucked up Bill was so flawed if they had to postpone it for a year anyway, avoiding a win-win for both parties. But sure as long as the empty suit has the Senate filibuster and the veto pen there's not much the Republican party to do to stop him. So you might as well fight?

 

I don't think you need to be an extremist to hate the Iran deal or wish that Obamacare has been constructed properly.

(you do have to be an extremist to push the deal through just to make Obama look good)

WSS

[Dste Ace]

Hey, I'm certainly not defending how Obamacare was implemented. Don't even get me started on the economic stimulus

bill passed in 2009. R's called for increased infrastructure spending but D's ignored them and added an assload of pork

or, in the words of Carl Bernstein, "$200 billion worth of nonsense." I was appalled that Obama, without giving any

specific guidance to Pelosi, basically told her to pass an economic bill and the result was the old Potomac Two-Step.

 

I don't consider myself an extremist and I think the Iran nuclear deal is bad. When Iran develops a working nuclear device,

they aren't going to announce on al-Jazeera that the push to destroy Israel is beginning. No, they'll give it to Hezbollah or Al-Queda

and let the crazies do their work for them. But that's another rant.

 

No, the answer for Republicans is to win the White House. The Democratic front runner has a last name that is synonymous with

duplicity and sketchy ethical behavior. 70 percent of Americans say that she isn't trustworthy. But in just about every poll I've seen

she leads the Republican candidates head-to-head. And that is in no small part because the R candidates are allowing themselves

to get sidetracked by Kim Davis and ranting about gay marriage and abortion---issues that a majority of Americans approve of.

 

I am certainly not a fan of John Boehner, nor am I defending him. He made his bed with the TP and now he gets to sleep in it.

But Boehner and the rest of the hated "establishment" recognize that the ultimate prize is the White House and they look at the

polls and the mood of the majority of the American electorate and they understand that shutting down the government over

Planned Parenthood will just be another nail in the coffin for 2016.

[Westside Steve]

Could be ace. I do see a lot of Kim Davis coverage but hoping I don't sound too jaded but I believe that the left leaning media has made more of a deal of that then it probably would be otherwise. Why? It helps their team. Also while I don't really think the approval is all that strong I'd say most Americans, like me, figure live and let live and leave me alone.

Voters have never been given a choice between gay marriage and a strong social contract for anyone. I think most voters would be happy with that compromise. I'm personally just slightly to the left but...

As for Planned Parenthood we should at least stop pretending that their main goal is providing medical services for poor women. I haven't seen any numbers so I couldn't say with certainty but my take is that the lion's share of women getting abortions could easily afford them. Its the dregs of the earth that squirt out the pups one after another and they are all certainly eligible for free abortions. They don't want them. Middle class educated white chicks on the other hand.....

 

And isn't Kim Davis a Democrat?

 

WSS

[Westside Steve]

I'd like to see Kim Davis take on her own party who seem to be the ones attacking her and let them take a big stand against one of their own.

 

WSS

[OldBrownsFan]

I'd like to see Kim Davis take on her own party who seem to be the ones attacking her and let them take a big stand against one of their own.

 

WSS

 

Steve I saw the other day where Kim Davis switched parties to republican.

[Westside Steve]

 

Steve I saw the other day where Kim Davis switched parties to republican.

Well I'd say that's a bad move strategically. It could have served to underscore the intolerance withim the Democrat Party.

 

WSS

[Dste Ace]

Oh, there's no doubt that the left-leaning media slants their coverage to make their side look good.

Same way that Fox slants it's coverage.

 

When there is a breaking political story I enjoy flipping back and forth between MSNBC and Fox. It's

very entertaining how differently each network covers the same story. To bring home how badly the networks slant their coverage,

read an article on BBC.com. It's almost startling how American news networks politicize each and every story.

[calfoxwc]

well, Ace, I'll just say this -

 

the reps knew they had to win the wh after the first stupid ass obamao term,..

and boehner and mcconnell being lambs to the slaughter didn't help that election, either -

and nominating bland, rino type, nitwillies to run for pres didn't help either.

 

The left plays vicious politics - and the right needs to stand on principle, and kick ass right back.

Smarting off to Tea Partiers didn't help win the last two pres elections - why not start standing

on serious kick ass moves to reverse the direction this country is going in?

[Westside Steve]

Oh, there's no doubt that the left-leaning media slants their coverage to make their side look good.

Same way that Fox slants it's coverage.

 

When there is a breaking political story I enjoy flipping back and forth between MSNBC and Fox. It's

very entertaining how differently each network covers the same story. To bring home how badly the networks slant their coverage,

read an article on BBC.com. It's almost startling how American news networks politicize each and every story.

Yes indeed but I don't count Fox as the national media. Nor MSNBC, we know which way they lean.

 

Still the bulk of Americans probably get what little knowledge of politics they absorb from the major networks and the newspapers. Anybody that listens to Rush Limbaugh or Rachel Maddow are already on board.

 

WSS