BadNewsBrowns Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Jim Haslam officially majority owner of Browns. Joe Banner new CEO / Team President, Holmgren to retire. http://espncleveland.com/common/more.php?m=49&post_id=6511 http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8511711/mike-holmgren-cleveland-browns-sale-official-sources-say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Jim Haslam officially majority owner of Browns. Joe Banner new CEO / Team President, Holmgren to retire. http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/8511711/mike-holmgren-cleveland-browns-sale-official-sources-say Need to change your name to Good News Browns. Zombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunt Daddy Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 That was fast. Fire Shurmur! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brown Skids Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Well I was never a fan of the Walrus, but he and Heckert did leave us with plenty of young talent to compete in the future. I'm kind of bittersweet about this, but it is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanInNYC Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Not sure what to make about this. There is an old expression 'better the devil you know". I am excited about the young team that the Holmgren regime has put together, and hope that all this front office stuff is not a big distraction for the players and coaches. This is a little off topic, but I would like cheerleaders and new uniforms. I think the old school uni's are stale, and would be all for a more modern design. I am torn about changing the helmets as part of it, but if the design was right I would be cool with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 This is a little off topic, but I would like cheerleaders and new uniforms. I think the old school uni's are stale, and would be all for a more modern design. I am torn about changing the helmets as part of it, but if the design was right I would be cool with it. Cheerleaders are lame...who really cares that we don't have them? Is that a reason to go to the game? Changing the uniforms is an absolute no. If Haslam wants to piss of the entire fan base, he'll decide to change the uniforms or helmets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadNewsBrowns Posted October 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Not sure what to make about this. There is an old expression 'better the devil you know". I have a lot more faith in Haslam, clean house,start anew, get rid of everything that has Lerner taint still on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadNewsBrowns Posted October 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Cheerleaders are lame...who really cares that we don't have them? Is that a reason to go to the game? Changing the uniforms is an absolute no. If Haslam wants to piss of the entire fan base, he'll decide to change the uniforms or helmets. What's wrong with a little T & A ? I'd say the fan base is split 60/40 on uniforms, with the majority in favor of keeping them the same. Haslam has stated he is open to making changes from a marketing standpoint which includes uniforms, and personally I think it'd be great to start this new era with a fresh look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 I think it would be an atrocious idea. He's been talking about the great tradition and history of the Browns franchise. Well, the uniforms and colors are part of that tradition and history. Changing them would be a PR disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halfsane Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Homgren - fine.. get his fat ass outta here. Hecket needs to be fairly evaluated. I think he has earned his stay. Shurms could save his job this year if the team keeps making strides. They are improving nearly each week and until they stop improving, shurmur should be retained (even if i do want to punch his face). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dusty Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 What's wrong with a little T & A ? I'd say the fan base is split 60/40 on uniforms, with the majority in favor of keeping them the same. Haslam has stated he is open to making changes from a marketing standpoint which includes uniforms, and personally I think it'd be great to start this new era with a fresh look. We don't need cheerleaders. We don't need new uniforms. Put together a winning team and the marketing will take care of it's self! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadNewsBrowns Posted October 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Homgren - fine.. get his fat ass outta here. Hecket needs to be fairly evaluated. I think he has earned his stay. Shurms could save his job this year if the team keeps making strides. They are improving nearly each week and until they stop improving, shurmur should be retained (even if i do want to punch his face). I'd rather start with a clean slate, Heckert is overrated, Shurmur is a fairy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRREBEL Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Thank god!! Bye bye Holmgren!! Holmgren should take Shurmur and his west coast offense to the Cleveland Crush.. I am sure they cold turn them around! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadNewsBrowns Posted October 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Haslam will be live on ESPN Cleveland. http://www.espncleveland.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brown Skids Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 There were some things I did despise about Pussy as well, like forcing his system on players and hiring the worst coach in the league in Vagina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TheClevelandSound Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 I think it would be an atrocious idea. He's been talking about the great tradition and history of the Browns franchise. Well, the uniforms and colors are part of that tradition and history. Changing them would be a PR disaster. ^^^ this. And Heckkkkkert better stay. He is the best thing that has happened to Cleveland since 1999. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 NFL network to carry the Haslem presser at 1:20 pm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 We don't need cheerleaders. We don't need new uniforms. Put together a winning team and the marketing will take care of it's self! Cheerleaders are a marketing expense- you think they're going to work for free? I've been to plenty of away games, and to me cheerleaders are a distraction (Ben-gals). You want cheerleaders, go to your local High school game or Ohio State's. IMHO don't need cheerleaders. Start playing exciting football, and the cheering will take care of itself. You want to see T&A, there's plenty of great free porn available 24\7 on the Internet. & We've been through this 1,000 times on the board. The uniforms have already been "tweaked" a bunch of times. Orange pants, Brown pants. One thing that should NEVER be changed is the helmet. As the only team in the NFL that doesn't have a logo on the helmet- that makes it unique. You probably would think Penn State should put a Nittany Lion (whatever the hell that is) on their helmets too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadNewsBrowns Posted October 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 And Heckkkkkert better stay. He is the best thing that has happened to Cleveland since 1999. That's arguable, and even if it were true it still doesn't mean he's good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 The presser is on now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanInNYC Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Cheerleaders are lame...who really cares that we don't have them? Is that a reason to go to the game? Changing the uniforms is an absolute no. If Haslam wants to piss of the entire fan base, he'll decide to change the uniforms or helmets. Cheerleaders are not lame. I think it would be an atrocious idea. He's been talking about the great tradition and history of the Browns franchise. Well, the uniforms and colors are part of that tradition and history. Changing them would be a PR disaster. I am not saying to change the colors, but a new design and mixing it up with some different combinations of orange and brown as well as something fresher than just stripes at the shoulder pads would be cool with me and all of my friends who are Browns fans. I like what the Seahawks did with their uni's for example. I think "PR disaster" is a bit exaggerated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheClevelandSound Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Haslam: "We are going to look at everything...except for the helmet" Yay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Haslam: "We are going to look at everything...except for the helmet" Yay! I just heard that too in Haslam's presser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 I just heard that too in Haslam's presser. Good to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark O Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Haslam: "We are going to look at everything...except for the helmet" Yay! That works for me. I like him. He seems like a no nonsense kind of guy who is going to be involved with everything. Good times are ahead I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brown Skids Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Who edited my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brown Skids Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 That's arguable, and even if it were true it still doesn't mean he's good enough. If we do fire Penis, there's always a chance the new GM is a "Savage" like GM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squintz Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Cheerleaders are a marketing expense- you think they're going to work for free? I've been to plenty of away games, and to me cheerleaders are a distraction (Ben-gals). You want cheerleaders, go to your local High school game or Ohio State's. IMHO don't need cheerleaders. Start playing exciting football, and the cheering will take care of itself. You want to see T&A, there's plenty of great free porn available 24\7 on the Internet. & We've been through this 1,000 times on the board. The uniforms have already been "tweaked" a bunch of times. Orange pants, Brown pants. One thing that should NEVER be changed is the helmet. As the only team in the NFL that doesn't have a logo on the helmet- that makes it unique. You probably would think Penn State should put a Nittany Lion (whatever the hell that is) on their helmets too. You're right - we HAVE been through this a thousand times. And for the 1,000th time, I think this is archaic thinking and the Browns fan base needs to recognize that change isn't necessarily bad. If you stand by the "If they win it doesn't matter" mentality, then you should also accept this the other way. If they win, why do you care if they want to change the uniforms or add cheerleaders? Newsflash: The new owner is a smart businessman. Newsflash: Haslam understands marketing. His wife is one of the top marketing execs in the world. Newsflash: Jimmy knows if would NOT be a PR disaster because the true fans that continued to flock and follow this team through the crappy-ass Lerner era won't turn away from their team if it adds another color, changes the uniforms, adds cheerleaders, etc. Simply put - If you/we ARE truly die-hard fans, our support won't waiver if changes like this are made. Randy was too much of a pussy to make changes and didn't have the balls to do anything. This is why his team continued to fall behind the rest of the NFL on the field and in the marketing realm. Hell, his idea of getting feedback from the fanbase was to bring in the moronic dawgbone-hat wearing buy that WELCOMED Chad Johnson into the Dawg Pound after he scored against us (I'm sooooo glad Lerner is gone)... To this day I feel that a-hole fan should be banned from the stadium. Haslam comes off like a take-charge guy that won't take shit or be swayed by idiots. He will do what he thinks is most beneficial to A) Win games B ) Make money. Marketing goes hand-in-hand with point B, so I would recommend everyone to be prepared for changes all around. I, for one, am excited for ALL changes. Again, if you want to play the "Win, and the uniforms don't matter" argument, then understand what you are saying. Because it is the same as "Win, and new uniforms/colors/cheerleaders/etc don't matter". You are, in essence, okay with the changes as long as they win. You are also okay with no changes if they win. If you are implying that if they make changes and lose, then you will no longer be a fan, then you are just lying to yourself. Because this is the Browns. This is our city and our team. We will follow and support them unconditionally because we are the best fans in the NFL - period. It doesn't matter if they make changes or not. Plus, we can always look forward to the few times per year they put the throwbacks on again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 That works for me. I like him. He seems like a no nonsense kind of guy who is going to be involved with everything. Good times are ahead I think. Haslam reminds me of a retired Marine Corps officer. He isn't going to put up with any BS. Sometimes having an activist owner works- sometimes it doesn't. (Jerry Jones) However- and I'll let Ghoolie comment on this- Haslam was in charge of the biggest chain of Truck Stops in the country. He didn't get that way hiring Bozos to run his gas stations. + he had time as minority owner of the Squealers to investigate how an NFL franchise is run properly. Time will tell. It certainly was time for Lerner to sell out, move to England to watch Aston Villa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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