htownbrown Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000801347/article/alabama-lb-reuben-foster-had-positive-drug-test-at-combine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren15 Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 Someone spiked his Reuben ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 Only ever eaten one reuben and it was in Cleveland, I still think it's possibly the best thing I have ever eaten. I did say no sauerkraut beforehand though, fuck that German shit.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 Sure he didn't eat at the Black Swan Restaurant in Vegas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 "Diluted sample." Still on my board since he called me to explain... Only ever eaten one reuben and it was in Cleveland, I still think it's possibly the best thing I have ever eaten. I did say no sauerkraut beforehand though, fuck that German shit.... Dude! It ain't a reuben without the kraut! It's just a grilled corned beef and swiss! I hope you at least did the 1000-island dressing dips... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htownbrown Posted April 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 "Diluted sample." Still on my board since he called me to explain... Dude! It ain't a reuben without the kraut! It's just a grilled corned beef and swiss! I hope you at least did the 1000-island dressing dips... sure in round 2... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 Ray Lewis killed a guy.. Tunsil looked like a fool, Not Now.. Shane Ray had some in a ashtray in DC. They seem to have tackled their problem on & off the field..Just don't get stupid..You will be tested..Straight into Rogers Drug program..G D LUCK!! (why do playoff teams still get better drafting late?Here's your sign..) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htownbrown Posted April 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 Ray Lewis killed a guy.. Tunsil looked like a fool, Not Now.. Shane Ray had some in a ashtray in DC. They seem to have tackled their problem on & off the field..Just don't get stupid..You will be tested..Straight into Rogers Drug program..G D LUCK!! (why do playoff teams still get better drafting late?Here's your sign..) To this point, how much better are we for taking Gordon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 Dude! It ain't a reuben without the kraut! It's just a grilled corned beef and swiss! I hope you at least did the 1000-island dressing dips... Oh, erm, I think it had that dressing on it. In hindsight I may just have had a corned beef and cheese sandwich, still, I'll take the memory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaineDeSoulis Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 not even slightly surprised... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyceRolls Posted April 20, 2017 Report Share Posted April 20, 2017 Considering that gordon's 2013 season was better than any season a vast majority of our 1st rd picks have ever logged.... out I'm ok with the 2nd they dropped on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 To this point, how much better are we for taking Gordon? For a season Gordon was the best in the league..Than he got stupid on the test of telling him when his test was going to happen..over 40% of players can pass a drug test. They know when it's coming..Just pass being Stupid..Sure, Foster lost money today. but what he does about it next is all on him..I pull for people just like this. I myself was young & dumb. but than came a good job, a wife, 3 children..Being stupid can stop all by yourself.millions or not..I did it on my own for over 35 years now..Now where's my legal beer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 Scroll down. Nick Saban: We've never had an issue with Reuben Foster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 I hydrated myself. LOL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choco Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 I don't get anywhere near this kid. Many reasons why other than this, but the like is always worse than the crime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggins7919 Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 Can someone explain what a diluted sample means? I remember Josh Gordon had one (I think) and it was because he had something called "dilute" in his system, that can be used as a masking agent. From what I read about Foster, it sounded more like his urine sample was diluted and not strong enough? I'm confused. If a sample wasn't "strong enough", wouldn't they just test again an hour later? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
choco Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 You drink enough water to saturate your urine, diluting out the contaminates so they will be less concentrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaineDeSoulis Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 You drink enough water to saturate your urine, diluting out the contaminates so they will be less concentrated. it can also mean adding chemicals to the sample or taking diuretics or other drugs to mask the urine or produce a diluted sample. SOP for this is retesting in an hour and the most likely reasoning is that he was intentionally trying to hide something. Though it is possible that it was accidental IE he was nervous and drank too much water. Unfortunately he was kicked out of the combine for threatening violence against the staff. likely the same staff doing this particular testing. Now instead of just popping hot for THC he has a diluted sample as his only sample which is much more likely to be an attempt at hiding something than it is to be a anomaly combined with the fact he lost his chance to retest because of his attitude problems. It all adds up to serious character issues. What if he were hiding Cocaine or Methamphetamine or Prescription Pills. These are now a possibility that teams need to consider when drafting foster as some of the worse case scenarios. I would feel A LOT better about drafting Foster if it were just a Pot failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htownbrown Posted April 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 Considering that gordon's 2013 season was better than any season a vast majority of our 1st rd picks have ever logged.... out I'm ok with the 2nd they dropped on him. While that is indisputable, would you spend the 2nd again knowing you will only get 1 year out of the guy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyceRolls Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 It's better than spending a 2 on Massoquai or Robiskie. It isn't that it's an ideal situation, it's that given the Browns draft record, Gordon was still far more successful than a lot of guys who had longer,shittier careers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 Yea, maybe he will slip to #33. Though, fact is, Browns are better off at ILB than just about any other position on the field except along the OL now. If he could play OLB/DE/DT it would be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiggins7919 Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 I guess I don't see how in the world a diluted sample can be counted as a positive. I mean, I drink a BUNCH of water every day, and I'm pretty sure my sample would be diluted. Just seems strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htownbrown Posted April 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 I guess I don't see how in the world a diluted sample can be counted as a positive. I mean, I drink a BUNCH of water every day, and I'm pretty sure my sample would be diluted. Just seems strange. Well for that one day you have to drink juice I guess. And by juice I don't mean roids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htownbrown Posted April 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 It's better than spending a 2 on Massoquai or Robiskie. It isn't that it's an ideal situation, it's that given the Browns draft record, Gordon was still far more successful than a lot of guys who had longer,shittier careers. Haha. Kinda like the 'she didn't let me cum, but at least she let me in' argument. Right now drafting Foster sounds like when I tell you Jessica Alba is going to give you a hand job with sandpaper gloves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren15 Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 Hell if he falls to 33 ....BOOM ...do it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 Haha. Kinda like the 'she didn't let me cum, but at least she let me in' argument. Right now drafting Foster sounds like when I tell you Jessica Alba is going to give you a hand job with sandpaper gloves. It could still be worth it to let Jessica Alba give me a hand job with sandpaper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htownbrown Posted April 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 It could still be worth it to let Jessica Alba give me a hand job with sandpaper. I guess it depends on the grit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 I guess it depends on the grit. A little sand on the lips wouldn't be a big problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 Can someone explain what a diluted sample means? I remember Josh Gordon had one (I think) and it was because he had something called "dilute" in his system, that can be used as a masking agent. From what I read about Foster, it sounded more like his urine sample was diluted and not strong enough? I'm confused. If a sample wasn't "strong enough", wouldn't they just test again an hour later? OK, I worked in a hospital lab for many years. "Dilute" is measured by a thing called specific gravity. It's weight\volume, and pure water is the standard = 1.000 . Ha, to digress- lead is around 11.0, meaning a given volume of lead is 11X heavier than the same volume of water. "Normal" specific gravity of urine is around 1.010 to 1.030, though it can go higher (dehydrated) or lower (diabetics). I don't know what the NFL cutoff is, but I would flag anything lower than 1.003 as "suspicious". 1.000 definitely- someone is peeing pure water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcam222 Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 After the josh Gordon experience and examples on a host of other Teams it would be insane to spend anything higher than a fifth on this guy. Anyone that we drafted guy in the second round but also pound they're heading to concrete till their brain fell out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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