Canton Dawg Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Browns beat reporter Daryl Ruter just tweeted. . . Hue Jackson meeting at length with Haslams post game is alarming. Right after losses is not the time to have those discussions IMO, sorry Does anyone think that Jimmy could be planning on cutting the Hue Jackson experiment after one year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 I will be done with browns football. I cant watch another restart. I cant do it. Because it basically ensures another 1-2 win season if not another o-16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Haslam should be forced to sell the franchise if he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob806 Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 No way. Read the article, he's safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 By the end of 2016 the browns will have paid off 6 coaches for 16 years of non-service coaches from pink slips..To the tune of $49Million$..Palmer,Davis,Crennel,Mangini,Shurmur & Chud..From Clev.com article in 2014, Haslam own words were"These are expensive moves" But not the Guiding Factor either"...IMO, Hue would have to quit on Haslam & Team..Just don't see it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaineDeSoulis Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Could be we'll see... Coaches are brought in to win games and he has at best under performed. All the other first year coaches are performing much better aswell... It could depend on who is available come firing/hiring time aswell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 U can never compare other teams situations to ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren15 Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Maybe we could trade for that speedy Taylor Gabriel at Atlanta ....... I have high expectations that we will put in our seasons best performance next weekend ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 If he does this, the NFL would have to consider adopting some collection of "Haslam Rules," similar to the Stepien Rules in the NBA, which limit the ways you're allowed to suck at trading draft picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 I bet Haslam's trigger finger is gettin' twitchy. We cannot pressure their passer....and we can't block for ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Chicks dig the concussion protocol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Maybe we could trade for that speedy Taylor Gabriel at Atlanta ....... I have high expectations that we will put in our seasons best performance next weekend ..... LOL! They were just laughing at the Browns during the Sunday Night Football halftime show for letting him go as they were showing his speed and TDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Post Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 I will be done with browns football. I cant watch another restart. I cant do it. Because it basically ensures another 1-2 win season if not another o-16.Cleveland fan for life? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Browns beat reporter Daryl Ruter just tweeted. . . Hue Jackson meeting at length with Haslams post game is alarming. Right after losses is not the time to have those discussions IMO, sorry Does anyone think that Jimmy could be planning on cutting the Hue Jackson experiment after one year? Unless Jimmuh met with Hue to tell him "get your head out of your ass, if we're going 0-16 play those young guys." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfooldoug Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Who will be the one to call the Haslam out? The suck starts with him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Cleveland fan for life? Cant be if they keep one and done'ing coaches. Im supposed to sit and watch yearly scheme and personnel changes in the hopes that this highly touted d3 high school coach is the next big thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stillmotion Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Who will be the one to call the Haslam out? The suck starts with him true, hue has no talent to work with yet is taking all of the accountability..... it's not his fault he has a close to 40 year old journeyman, no o-line, and a bunch of undrafted free agents and rookies to work with. let's see how it plays out because we need to get a solid core of blue chip playmakers in the next couple drafts. no trading down to the bottom of the first round or second round the next two years.... take the best player available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beare Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 few thoughts 1) far as gabriel its not like he ever did anything here so not so sure can blame that 1 on browns 2) HUE- i agree cant keep starting over but at same time i find funny how people have basically complain coach after coach fire him but hue goes 0-12 most want keep him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Hue blows. What's the gold star on his resume? Couldn't get a PB QB to play up to a level to make it 2 games into the post season ever? Tying your wagon to marvin lewis or getting canned in oakland when they realized what they hired? Pederson in philly walked into a team in redeuz and looks pretty good doing it with a rookie signal caller and we got S. H. I. T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Oh and btw, i love the nonchalant attitude of everyone involved in the org that 'we don't care about winning this season' as this team is breaking franchise and long-storied nfl records for suckage. Love the browns but who wants to be the guy in the club house shitter talking proudly of sticking by the all-time worse football team in history? It's like you bragging that you threw a counle of hundred down on Skin The Cat as Secretariat goes across the line winning by ten lenghts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfooldoug Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 true, hue has no talent to work with yet is taking all of the accountability..... it's not his fault he has a close to 40 year old journeyman, no o-line, and a bunch of undrafted free agents and rookies to work with. let's see how it plays out because we need to get a solid core of blue chip playmakers in the next couple drafts. no trading down to the bottom of the first round or second round the next two years.... take the best player available. I agree with you but we still have the same GM making the picks that we have had the past few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Oh and btw, i love the nonchalant attitude of everyone involved in the org that 'we don't care about winning this season' as this team is breaking franchise and long-storied nfl records for suckage. Love the browns but who wants to be the guy in the club house shitter talking proudly of sticking by the all-time worse football team in history? It's like you bragging that you threw a counle of hundred down on Skin The Cat as Secretariat goes across the line winning by ten lenghts. What's he supposed to say? "Yeah we wanted at least 5 wins from Hue because we like the number 5 and it's a good number, if he doesn't get them he's fired" or "I don't understand why we're not in the playoffs, we're so great and all our players should be pro bowlers" or "Honestly we knew we wouldn't be in the playoffs and this year won't be judged on wins and losses" Which one seems reasonable? Which seems deluded? Which applies unnecessary additional pressure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 I agree with you but we still have the same GM making the picks that we have had the past few years. We still have Ray Farmer making the picks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfooldoug Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 We still have Ray Farmer making the picks? Haslam has been the common thread in all our picks. It's pretty common knowledge around here that he is and has been our GM. Joe Jones called him the Dollar General store version of Jerry Jones. Remember, Jimmy and Dee Dee are half the Gm quadrafuck we have going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Haslam has been the common thread in all our picks. It's pretty common knowledge around here that he is and has been our GM. Joe Jones called him the Dollar General store version of Jerry Jones. Remember, Jimmy and Dee Dee are half the Gm quadrafuck we have going on. I'm not completely sold on him interfering any more to be honest. I can't see guys like Sashi and DePodesta signing on - and Sashi with full knowledge of the situation - if there was going to be any shenanigans from up top. I think (read: I hope) Jimmy learned his lesson from Johnny 'bums on seats' Manziel and the Hobo and doesn't require our brain trust to 'make a splash' so to speak. But it wouldn't shock me to find out it's still the case, for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Hue and the whole front office needs to go. It can't get any worse then it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfooldoug Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 I'm not completely sold on him interfering any more to be honest. I can't see guys like Sashi and DePodesta signing on - and Sashi with full knowledge of the situation - if there was going to be any shenanigans from up top. I think (read: I hope) Jimmy learned his lesson from Johnny 'bums on seats' Manziel and the Hobo and doesn't require our brain trust to 'make a splash' so to speak. But it wouldn't shock me to find out it's still the case, for sure. Stosh and the Pud are purely numbers guys. Neither one has any qualifier's to pick NFL talent. Sure there's a scouting team out there but when it comes down to crunch time...JIMMY! If you look at things like Jimmy being in charge of talent for the past 3 years, it all makes sense. He cannot judge talent for shit but sure wants to keep meddling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingfooldoug Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Hue and the whole front office needs to go. It can't get any worse then it is. Bet it can get worse. We said the same things years ago and it never started uphill. Just more down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Don't see how it can get worse then what we have now. Palmer would be better then Hue. The guy is terrible. Sashi needs his dumb ass out also along with anyone else hired with Hue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted November 28, 2016 Report Share Posted November 28, 2016 Stosh and the Pud are purely numbers guys. Neither one has any qualifier's to pick NFL talent. Sure there's a scouting team out there but when it comes down to crunch time...JIMMY! If you look at things like Jimmy being in charge of talent for the past 3 years, it all makes sense. He cannot judge talent for shit but sure wants to keep meddling. There's a scouting team, a vastly experienced coaching team, talent evaluators, and then one guy (Sashi) who brings all of the information together to get a consensus of the best players/fits. I've never understood this need for the GM to be a supreme talent evaluator, the guy is going to spend so much of his time churning the roster that he's not going to ever really have much time to do his scouting, and even if he does it won't be on all 350 or so college guys and the hundreds of NFL free agents every year, so he's for sure going to need to lean on his scouts very heavily anyway. If anything, it's probably a good thing that you don't have someone at the top who is driven by ego and will disregard the scouting advice and just go with one man's opinion (hi Ray Farmer, Mike Holmgren, Mike Lombardi...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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