Josh Gordon, Marijuana and the Playoffs.

[PoeticG]

I'm excited to have Josh back for next season. We should be a much better team when he returns. I can only hope that he's staying up-to-date in the playbook and with his training. It's a shame that he's not allowed to even be involved with team activities. Having said that though, it appears he is doing the right things to have a major comeback and help us where we need it most. A big target(besides Barnidge) would open up the passing game for these smaller wideouts and even contribute exponentially to the run game.

 

I still believe the Playoffs are within reach this season, but the time is now, we have to win this weekend. We have too. If this team can string together a couple wins before the BYE and go in at 5-5 we would be in good shape... well, a lot better than 3-7...

 

I think it's time that the War on Drugs be fixed so that it is really about 'drugs' and not a harmless plant. I physically cannot drink, it makes me sick. I would love to be able to 'take the edge off' of a hard day's work without feeling like a criminal. It's time Ohio.

[bringbackbrownie2]

Gordon was suspended again due to alcohol not weed.

[Canton Mike]

I voted "no" on being excited about Gordon's return because I need to see a committed & consistent effort from him on the field before I get excited.

We'll see.

 

Mike

[medicineman]

wont Josh be a FA next year? He is gone from Cleveland. He will go to Dallas or Cinci where they welcome that kind of person

[MLD Woody]

10 people against legal weed?

 

Why?

[medicineman]

I could not care less about weed but just because it is legal don't mean the NFL will allow it. I like what Josh can do on the field but is off the field issues will get him in trouble again.

[Canton Mike]

10 people against legal weed?

 

Why?

 

Because I have as much right to vote "no" as you have to vote "yes". That's all you need to know, that not all of us think the same, & that's actually okay.

 

Mike

[Tour2ma]

1. No... because of what I saw last year.

2. No... because there are too many teams between us and a WC slot.

3. Yes.. but kinda outta state.

 

wont Josh be a FA next year?

No... Gordon is under contract to us for two more years assuming his game 17 suspension in 2014 is upheld. If it's overturned, then we still have him for one more year.

[jcam222]

10 people against legal weed?

 

Why?

I am overall undecided longer term on how I feel about legal weed. I am however smart enough to see through the well orchestrated ads about poor little children who can't get medical weed and job creation. If their genuine concern were anything like The ads they"d have no issue with growing for personal use and licensing smaller caregiver farms. The bill is a straight cash grab that counts on either sympathy or the fact many don't care about the bullshit as long as they can buy weed. It's a bad bill.

[Opal312]

When I was young and naive I might have voted for weed. But it dumbs you down, makes you lazy and destroys brain cells. Just what the people of Ohio need; More dumbasses living off the government and mooching off tax payers.

As for Josh Gordon; How old will he be next year? Do you really think he's having an ephiny right now? He's,got a greenhouse full of marijuana growing while he watches reality TV all day eating Crispy Creams. Sure, he'll make a difference.

[Browns_Fucking_Rule]

Hope people go out and vote for issue 3... dont matter if you think its a good bill or not... the law against it right now is the biggest crime already and anything would improve the situation... or i guess we can keep throwing weed smokers in jail while real criminals roam free

[Browns_Fucking_Rule]

And I have to add one more post on this subject... Do people really believe that weed makes people dumber than alcohol? I think people believe too many stereotypes without actually investigating issues themselves.

[gumby73]

No Gordon is under contract to us for two more years assuming his game 17 suspension in 2014 is upheld. If it's overturned, then we still have him for one more year.

This ^^ Tells me Josh does not want to be here period.. When shit goes bad on the Field. Josh goes bad on the streets. Peer pressure with friends for years has shot this kid in the foot. Josh after 10 game suspension looked lost on the playbook & not in the best shape on endurance. All fixable with full camp but Josh's heart & head has got to be back in his game..

[jcam222]

Hope people go out and vote for issue 3... dont matter if you think its a good bill or not... the law against it right now is the biggest crime already and anything would improve the situation... or i guess we can keep throwing weed smokers in jail while real criminals roam free

They are counting on people like you. Vote yes even if we think it's a bad bill? If you really feel passionate about it lobby for a GOOD bill.

[thenew23]

I could care less if people smoke weed legally or illegally, but I don't like issue 3 because it basically says:

 

"These 10 rich people are allowed to create a monopoly and control every aspect of this particular market, from production to distribution to sales, without competition from anybody...... and by the way, you can smoke weed legally"

 

If you like are willing to give those people that much power and money, just so you can get high and not worry about a slap-on-the-wrist misdemeanor... then you're ____________ (insert favorite synonym for 'crazy'). Issue 2 is a great law that prevents people from ever being able to "write into law" a monopoly on any market. Once issue 2 passes, issue 3 will basically become null-and-void anyway...

 

If the people actually put an amendment into the constitution that ONLY says "marijuana legalization - for age appropriate (I think 25 and older) people, with strict restrictions about driving while high / smoking in a public place / accepting public assistance while using / accepting unemployment while using / accepting Medicaid while using / etc..." Then I will gladly vote for the hard-working American to be able to come home and light up if that's what they want...

[Harry Taintsniffer]

I could care less if people smoke weed legally or illegally, but I don't like issue 3 because it basically says:

 

"These 10 rich people are allowed to create a monopoly and control every aspect of this particular market, from production to distribution to sales, without competition from anybody...... and by the way, you can smoke weed legally"

 

If you like are willing to give those people that much power and money, just so you can get high and not worry about a slap-on-the-wrist misdemeanor... then you're ____________ (insert favorite synonym for 'crazy'). Issue 2 is a great law that prevents people from ever being able to "write into law" a monopoly on any market. Once issue 2 passes, issue 3 will basically become null-and-void anyway...

 

If the people actually put an amendment into the constitution that ONLY says "marijuana legalization - for age appropriate (I think 25 and older) people, with strict restrictions about driving while high / smoking in a public place / accepting public assistance while using / accepting unemployment while using / accepting Medicaid while using / etc..." Then I will gladly vote for the hard-working American to be able to come home and light up if that's what they want...

Agreed. That is not how a free market should work. It is bullshit.

[The Gipper]

 

Because I have as much right to vote "no" as you have to vote "yes". That's all you need to know, that not all of us think the same, & that's actually okay.

 

Mike

Will you smoke it when it passes?

 

Weed is now like alcohol was in the twenties....forbidden but commonly utilized. Soon "Prohibition" against weed will go the way of prohibition against alcohol...and prohibition against gay marriage.

[The Gipper]

wont Josh be a FA next year? He is gone from Cleveland. He will go to Dallas or Cinci where they welcome that kind of person

No, I don't think so. The Browns have him at least through 2016...if not beyond....if they want him.

[The Gipper]

When I was young and naive I might have voted for weed. But it dumbs you down, makes you lazy and destroys brain cells. Just what the people of Ohio need; More dumbasses living off the government and mooching off tax payers.

As for Josh Gordon; How old will he be next year? Do you really think he's having an ephiny right now? He's,got a greenhouse full of marijuana growing while he watches reality TV all day eating Crispy Creams. Sure, he'll make a difference.

Of course, all the same things can be said about booze.....only its worth. (and I suspect that far, far more people....if any do at all....mooch off taxpayers because of booze than they do because of marijuana.)

[MLD Woody]

Of course, all the same things can be said about booze.....only its worth. (and I suspect that far, far more people....if any do at all....mooch off taxpayers because of booze than they do because of marijuana.)

Anything to support that claim?

[MLD Woody]

 

Because I have as much right to vote "no" as you have to vote "yes". That's all you need to know, that not all of us think the same, & that's actually okay.

 

Mike

Right, you can vote for whatever you want. I generally base my decisions on the evidence presented. I'm curious what reasoning you have to keep weed illegal?

 

 

And if we're making weed illegal, why not alcohol or cigarettes too?

[gftChris]

Woodster, keep it in your pants boy

[The Gipper]

I could care less if people smoke weed legally or illegally, but I don't like issue 3 because it basically says:

 

"These 10 rich people are allowed to create a monopoly and control every aspect of this particular market, from production to distribution to sales, without competition from anybody...... and by the way, you can smoke weed legally"

 

If you like are willing to give those people that much power and money, just so you can get high and not worry about a slap-on-the-wrist misdemeanor... then you're ____________ (insert favorite synonym for 'crazy'). Issue 2 is a great law that prevents people from ever being able to "write into law" a monopoly on any market. Once issue 2 passes, issue 3 will basically become null-and-void anyway...

 

If the people actually put an amendment into the constitution that ONLY says "marijuana legalization - for age appropriate (I think 25 and older) people, with strict restrictions about driving while high / smoking in a public place / accepting public assistance while using / accepting unemployment while using / accepting Medicaid while using / etc..." Then I will gladly vote for the hard-working American to be able to come home and light up if that's what they want...

Let's put it this way.....when they legalized casino gambling they basically did the same thing.....except that there were even fewer people to rake in the dough. So this would not be any different.

And, by the way, they could have vastly opened up casinos in this state.....as they did in at least one state (besides Nevada)....Montana. When I went there last year, every restaurant, truck stop, gas station had a small casino in them.

Ohio could have done the same but didn't.

But....in both the casino and the dope grower situation....once you let the cat out of the bag, more cats could follow. A number of other people could apply for a casino license. The new law for dope would allow for expansion of the list of "growers".

Let's put it this way:

There are probably really no more than 10 actual suppliers and distributors of gasoline operating in this state. And that commodity is far more ubiquitous than dope will be. The Circle Ks and the Speedways and the Duke and Duchess stores all get their gas from the same source. So the "dope" monopoly doesn't concern me any more than the gas or the gambling monopoly does.

[The Gipper]

Anything to support that claim?

Yes, years of experience as an attorney and as a magistrate. Far, far more issues that cause the taxpayers money are caused by alcohol than are caused by marijuana. Honestly....almost universally the worst infraction that I have ever seen caused by marijuana is basically just the technical legal infraction of possessing it.

In 35 years I cannot tell you that I have dealt with any OVIs that were strictly cannabis related.

 

Other than alcohol, far more cases of OVI were charged by the use of prescription drugs.......and half of those were probably where the person actually had a prescription for those drugs.....the vicodins, darvocets, etc.

[TypicalBrowns]

It doesn't matter what anyone thinks, it will be legal soon if not this year. It's funny cuz ppl voting no are just delaying the inevitable, were fucked anyways cause our country is poor and stupid and wants socialists as president to keep everything fair for ppl that don't want to work. Weed is the least of my worries

[Canton Mike]

Will you smoke it when it passes?

 

 

 

Nope. Never have smoked it before & have no interest in ever trying it.

 

Mike

[The Gipper]

 

Nope. Never have smoked it before & have no interest in ever trying it.

 

Mike

So, you get your buzz from the smell of fish! Right?. (sorry, just yanking your chain)

[Canton Mike]

So, you get your buzz from the smell of fish! Right?. (sorry, just yanking your chain)

 

I DO like fish! LOL

[jcam222]

It doesn't matter what anyone thinks, it will be legal soon if not this year. It's funny cuz ppl voting no are just delaying the inevitable, were fucked anyways cause our country is poor and stupid and wants socialists as president to keep everything fair for ppl that don't want to work. Weed is the least of my worries

I don't think you comprehend the fundamental issue I and others have with the bill. I am somewhere on the no side of neutral on legalization. I am 100% opposed to the 10 idiots preying on your desire to get high. I will vote against for sure. IF the bill was amended to allow licensed open market AND remove edibles I'd obstain. If the bill did both of the above AND was only medical I'd vote yes. The bill as it stands is common political practice on all bills. Put a shiny diamond on a pile of shit knowing most people won't look past the diamond.

[Browns_Fucking_Rule]

I'm going to put this as simply as possible. If you vote no on issues 3 you are voting to support terrorism and criminal wealth. Do you guys know how much weed gets imported to this country from the cartels? Seriously its a lot... almost all the cheap weed in this country is brought in from mexico. So in light of that is this bill really all that bad? someone is going to get rich because legal or illegal weed is still going to be here and a lot of it... so maybe its better to actually put that money into the state and the citizens of the state instead of funding the cartels. People can always vote to reform the bill later on if they want to adjust it.