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Obama 'JV Team' Calls For Elimination of Christianity In Egypt


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Christians are genocide victims and should get priority in refugee order

 

This weekend, ISIS released a video calling for the full elimination of Christianity in Egypt. The star of the video was the alleged perpetrator of December’s terrorist bombing within the complex of Egypt’s most important Coptic church, for Christian persecution in Egypt continues to escalate. In the province of Minya alone there have been more than 75 attacks in the past five years.

 

ISIS warned us three years ago, “[we will] break your crosses, and enslave your women . . . If we do not reach that time, then our children and grandchildren will reach it, and they will sell your sons as slaves at the slave market.”

 

Now, the Christian population in Syria stands at less than 500,000, significantly less than the 2 million it was just five years ago. Iraq’s ancient churches and monasteries are in rubble across the Nineveh Plain, and countless people have been displaced and lives have been lost. In Egypt, terrorists must feel especially emboldened: The parliament even passed a law governing the building or renovation of churches in the country.

 

While politicians, pundits and judges spar over whether religious minorities ought to still be prioritized in the latest iteration of President Trump’s executive order on refugees, Islamic extremists continue to follow through on genocidal threats against Christians.

 

Of course, no one is suggesting that the Islamic community is not deserving of assistance as well. In fact, more Muslims have been killed or displaced by terrorists than any other ethno-religious community in the Middle East. It’s just that the Christian, Yazidi and other minority communities have faced the threat of genocide in the Middle East -- of total eradication.

 

The other consideration, as Rabbis Abraham Cooper and Yitzchok Adlerstein noted presciently in The Wall Street Journal in 2015, remains that “unlike some others, Middle East Christians have nowhere else to go . . . present policy does not take into account the uniquely precarious situation of displaced Christians . . . Christians are profoundly disadvantaged.”

 

In a less apoplectic time, the prioritization of threatened, religious minorities in President Trump’s executive order would have been applauded by Republicans and Democrats alike.

 

It still should be.

 

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2017/02/21/christians-are-genocide-victims-and-should-get-priority-in-refugee-order.html

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Disingenuous point 1: Subject Header claiming Obama has a real (as opposed to imaginary) relationship with Daesh.

 

Disingenuous point 2: The threat of genocide is not the same thing of genocide. My local mosque received a letter from a rightwing nutjob saying "Trump will exterminate Muslims." Would you say Muslims are under threat of genocide in America?

 

And nobody is dying fighting them more than Muslims. The Egyptian army has been fighting them non-stop in the Sinai. In fact, Egypt has been kicking their asses. Egypt's army is composed of mostly Muslims. How about some special dispensation for Egyptian soldiers then? Or should we deny them visas too should they want to come to the USA.

 

http://www.timesofisrael.com/sinai-attacks-decline-as-egypts-fight-against-is-yields-results/

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you mad, bro?

 

Posted Today, 09:34 PM

NOT Disingenuous point 1: Subject Header claiming Obama has a real (as opposed to imaginary) relationship with Daesh.

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Baloney. Your obaMao called them a JV team, which means, he knows so much about them, that he doesn't consider

them a real threat... like a varsity team playing a junior varsity team. LIke, he was a scout for a football team,

and said the other team was not worth worrying about. This was stupid.

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NOT Disingenuous point 2: The threat of genocide is not the same thing of genocide. My local mosque received a letter from a rightwing nutjob saying "Trump will exterminate Muslims." Would you say Muslims are under threat of genocide in America?

 

And nobody is dying fighting them more than Muslims. The Egyptian army has been fighting them non-stop in the Sinai. In fact, Egypt has been kicking their asses. Egypt's army is composed of mostly Muslims. How about some special dispensation for Egyptian soldiers then? Or should we deny them visas too should they want to come to the USA.

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The threat of genocide is terror, as is, actually committing genocide. Both are terror. STFU

Know this: Bringing our new president into it is PISD -

 

Let me explain this to you - the radical, crimes against humanity most certainly do murder some Muslims,

but they don't threaten the murder of ALL Muslims; they think THEY are Muslims.

 

Therefore, the threat of Christians across the board is a very, very hideous event, intended to do worse

than with Muslim citizens of those countrys.

 

Know this, too, His Highness Osiris - the article is about an ISIS threat. Nobody is saying Muslims don't

fight isis. That is stupid. You didn't open the link? or you just want to emotionally knee jerk?

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The header only shows how wrong Obama was in misjudging ISIS referring them to the JV team.

 

And there is a difference between threat of genocide and actually working to accomplish the goal and that is happening with churches being destroyed and Christians being killed over nothing but their faith.

 

Christian Persecution in the Muslim World: Christians as ‘Target Practice’

 

Mideast Christian: "Where are the leaders of the West, Ban Ki-Moon, the EU, WHO, and other Christian organisations?”

 

http://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/264001/christian-persecution-muslim-world-christians-raymond-ibrahim

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If christians in the middle east arent string enough to protect themselves they should die off right? I mean thats the law of the strongest right? The same argument made every time a christian power plowed a native people into the ground. No different. If they cant fight off some towel heads in a 1990 toyota tacoma than fuck em right?

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Isn't ISIS the one chopping heads off? ISIS isn't the school yard bully that barks but never bites. ISIS will, if possible, carry out their threats. It would be foolish to think of them as only threatening.

I understand how some of you want to argue your "side", regardless of factual information. But to argue that a threat of genocide isn't genocide when the threat is coming from ISIS is absurd. Correct, it isn't genocide, but we can't take their threats lightly or try and argue away anything ISIS says.

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Disingenuous point 1: Subject Header claiming Obama has a real (as opposed to imaginary) relationship with Daesh.

 

Disingenuous point 2: The threat of genocide is not the same thing of genocide. My local mosque received a letter from a rightwing nutjob saying "Trump will exterminate Muslims." Would you say Muslims are under threat of genocide in America?

 

And nobody is dying fighting them more than Muslims. The Egyptian army has been fighting them non-stop in the Sinai. In fact, Egypt has been kicking their asses. Egypt's army is composed of mostly Muslims. How about some special dispensation for Egyptian soldiers then? Or should we deny them visas too should they want to come to the USA.

 

http://www.timesofisrael.com/sinai-attacks-decline-as-egypts-fight-against-is-yields-results/

Mainly because ISIS is shifting it's power more to Southwest Asia (Afghanistan/Pakistan) and out of the middle east.

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Isn't ISIS the one chopping heads off? ISIS isn't the school yard bully that barks but never bites. ISIS will, if possible, carry out their threats. It would be foolish to think of them as only threatening.

 

I understand how some of you want to argue your "side", regardless of factual information. But to argue that a threat of genocide isn't genocide when the threat is coming from ISIS is absurd. Correct, it isn't genocide, but we can't take their threats lightly or try and argue away anything ISIS says.

 

It isn't absurd. What is absurd is people running around like chickens with their heads cut off claiming "ISIS ISIS ISIS everywhere!" You are unaware of facts on the ground in Egypt. I, however, am aware of facts, being born in that country and having visited it dozens of time in my life, including this last December. I am aware of the fact that the Egyptian military has ISIS on the ropes in the Sinai peninsula which is the only place in Egypt where they have a foothold. I'm aware of the fact that Egypt recently managed to kill the leader of ISIS in Egypt.

 

It's hilarious that you think I am arguing my side regardless of factual information when your "side" gave up caring about facts years ago and are trying to substitute 'alternative facts' for real ones.

 

Fact, the majority of Christians in Egypt live in Alexandria and Cairo.

Fact, Alexandria and Cairo are Egypt's two largest and most important cities.

Fact, these cities are not in the Sinai where ISIS operates.

Fact, Egypt's military is the 12th strongest in the world.

 

Put all these facts together and you have yet another fact: ISIS will not be able to commit genocide on the Christians of Egypt unless they are able to defeat the 12th strongest military in the world and take over Egypt's two largest and most important cities. Under Egyptian law, the 12th strongest military in the world has in legal right to conscript as many men and women to the army as they need to make sure that never happens.

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sorry, Os, but your palestinian sunglasses make everything in egypt look

peachy.

 

it isn't.

 

ISIS Celebrates Egypt Terror Attack at Coptic Church as 'Blessed Act'
www.christianpost.com/.../isis-celebrates-egypt-terror-attack-coptic-church-blessed-act...
Dec 12, 2016 - ISIS Celebrates Egypt Terror Attack at Coptic Church as 'Blessed Act' ... Cairo's Coptic cathedral, following a bombing, in Egypt December 11, 2016. .... ISIS' 'Sickening' Genocide Against Christians: Why Is the UN Still Silent, ...
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How Egyptian Muslims Are Persecuting Coptic Christians

By Alaa Al Aswany On 6/18/16 at 5:00

http://www.newsweek.com/how-egyptian-muslims-persecuting-coptic-christians-470406

 

Egypt’s wave of persecution continues as mob stabs Christian to death

http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/news/2016/07/19/egypts-wave-of-persecution-continues-as-mob-stabs-christian-to-death/

 

Special Report: Growing Christian Persecution in Egypt and Libya

https://www.christianfreedom.org/special-report-growing-christian-persecution-in-egypt-and-libya/

 

Persecuted and forgotten: Egypt's Christians

Anti-Christian violence is on the rise in Egypt. Just a month ago, 45 churches and buildings were burned to the ground. But will Egyptian security forces do anything to stop it?

http://www.dw.com/en/persecuted-and-forgotten-egypts-christians/a-17089692

The persecution of Egypt's Coptic Christians

"60 Minutes" reports on the Copts, Egypt's Christians who have suffered one of their worst periods in nearly 2,000 years

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/persecution-of-egypts-coptic-christians/

In post-Arab Spring Egypt, Muslim attacks on Christians are rising

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/in-post-arab-spring-egypt-muslim-attacks-on-christians-are-rising/2016/11/13/f50a18e2-84fc-11e6-b57d-dd49277af02f_story.html?utm_term=.04a4aa16c403

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It isn't absurd. What is absurd is people running around like chickens with their heads cut off claiming "ISIS ISIS ISIS everywhere!" You are unaware of facts on the ground in Egypt. I, however, am aware of facts, being born in that country and having visited it dozens of time in my life, including this last December. I am aware of the fact that the Egyptian military has ISIS on the ropes in the Sinai peninsula which is the only place in Egypt where they have a foothold. I'm aware of the fact that Egypt recently managed to kill the leader of ISIS in Egypt.

 

It's hilarious that you think I am arguing my side regardless of factual information when your "side" gave up caring about facts years ago and are trying to substitute 'alternative facts' for real ones.

 

Fact, the majority of Christians in Egypt live in Alexandria and Cairo.

Fact, Alexandria and Cairo are Egypt's two largest and most important cities.

Fact, these cities are not in the Sinai where ISIS operates.

Fact, Egypt's military is the 12th strongest in the world.

 

Put all these facts together and you have yet another fact: ISIS will not be able to commit genocide on the Christians of Egypt unless they are able to defeat the 12th strongest military in the world and take over Egypt's two largest and most important cities. Under Egyptian law, the 12th strongest military in the world has in legal right to conscript as many men and women to the army as they need to make sure that never happens.

Okay, great, thanks for the news update. However, until ISIS is defeated and gone, you can't take them lightly. I understand that we shouldn't be crying wolf. HOwever, ISIS has and will continue to murder, whomever and wherever they like, even it if is random acts of terrorism, or through military capture and mass executions. We can't paint a rosey picture using the blood of ISIS's victims, and in some ways, that's what you are doing.

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actually, we didn't provide it, isis took it from the Iraqi army that fled because

Americans left under obaMao and they had no confidence to fight.

There's an interesting if yet unsubstantiated link between the top brass of Isis and st dept and/or military intelligence. As well as Iraqis claimimg to AP reporters that they see american aircraft re supplying Isis positions

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Okay, great, thanks for the news update. However, until ISIS is defeated and gone, you can't take them lightly. I understand that we shouldn't be crying wolf. HOwever, ISIS has and will continue to murder, whomever and wherever they like, even it if is random acts of terrorism, or through military capture and mass executions. We can't paint a rosey picture using the blood of ISIS's victims, and in some ways, that's what you are doing.

 

Nobody is painting a rosy picture of them. Their is plenty of reason to fight them in every corner of the world without having to cry that a Christian genocide is imminent.

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If I could click my fingers and eliminate not only Christianity, but judaism and Islam from the entire world I would do that without a second thought for the true believers. Religion is a blight upon mankind and is doing nothing but hampering our progress and, in fact, harming everyone who comes in contact with it. There is not a plus side to religion. Some people will argue that it makes people live by a value system but that's utter nonsense. You should be doing that anyway, you shouldn't need to be threatened by the mysterious sky-man to do it.

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If I could click my fingers and eliminate not only Christianity, but judaism and Islam from the entire world I would do that without a second thought for the true believers. Religion is a blight upon mankind and is doing nothing but hampering our progress and, in fact, harming everyone who comes in contact with it. There is not a plus side to religion. Some people will argue that it makes people live by a value system but that's utter nonsense. You should be doing that anyway, you shouldn't need to be threatened by the mysterious sky-man to do it.

 

I would take a country that had a freedom of religion like the United States over a country like North Korea that doesn't. If getting religion out of the picture truly created a utopian society it seems like North Korea should be the poster child for it.

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Utopian? No. There is no such thing as utopia. Human nature doesn't allow for it. There's always problems. There will always be problems. Religion is a huge one. There is no plus side to it. Show me what a benefit to religion is that couldn't be attained through other than religious means.

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Utopian? No. There is no such thing as utopia. Human nature doesn't allow for it. There's always problems. There will always be problems. Religion is a huge one. There is no plus side to it. Show me what a benefit to religion is that couldn't be attained through other than religious means.

 

One example is that I know people who were drug addicted and thieves before coming to faith in Christ and have since gone on to be very successful in life. They had been through all the secular drug programs and counseling etc..and it wasn't until they accepted Jesus as Lord and Savior that they were able to rise up from addiction and go on to live productive lives. Christianity transcends religion in that it is a relationship and not just a list of rules of do's and dont's. There is a freedom in Christianity but it is not total freedom. Freedom within a fence would be the best way to describe it.

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Fuck that. Drug addiction is 100% of the time a symptom of an underlying cause. Hurt, abuse, neglect something they can't deal with. facing up to your problems is the way to overcome drug addiction. A psychiatrist could do the same if that person could bear to talk to one and conclude what the root cause of their problem is.

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You can believe what you want and I am happy we live in a country where people have the freedom to believe what they want or not at all if they want. The people I spoke of had been through plenty of secular treatments and psychology that didn't work. They found something that worked. Faith in Christ, faith in the gospel. Nobody forced this on them, it was all free will which is the way it should be.

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And, before Cal looks that particular quote up, piss in Karl Marx's dead face. You don't need religion to be a good person. You shouldn't have to be threatened with hell or promised everlasting paradise not to do terrible shit.

I agree with this, actually. I think goodness comes from natural law.

 

Today of course we have many different opiates of the masses.

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