The Gipper Posted April 9, 2015 Report Share Posted April 9, 2015 I did a survey of about 100 Mock drafts from the WalterFootball Database, and here were the choices, first for the Browns #12 pick then for then for the #19 pick. The number reflects how many times each player was taken. I ignored trades: Pick 12: Danny Shelton selected 25 times Devante Parker: 20 Kevin White: 8 Amari Cooper: 7 Malcom Brown: 5 Marcus Mariota: 4 Arik Armstead: 4 La'el Collins: 4 Erick Flowers: 3 Bud Dupree: 3 Vic Beasly: 3 Shane Ray: 3 Randy Gregory: 2 Andrus Peat: 2 Brandon Scherff: 1 Trae Waynes: 1 Landon Collins: 1 TJ Clemmings: 1 Jordan Phillips: 1 Breshard Perriman: 1 Todd Gurley:1 The #19 pick was even more all over the place: Malcom Brown: 15 Jaelen Strong: 9 Alvin Dupree: 8 La'el Collins: 8 Erick Flowers: 6 Andrus Peat: 5 Breshard Perriman: 5 Danny Shelton: 5 DJ Humphries: 4 TJ Clemmings: 4 Eddie Goldman: 3 Dorial Green-Beckham: 3 Randy Gregory: 3 Maxx Williams: 3 Melvin Gordon: 2 Benardrick McKinney: 2 Jordan Phillips: 2 Arik Armstead: 2 Nate Orchard: 1 Brandon Scherff: 1 Trae Waynes: 1 Bryce Petty: 1 Shaq Thompson: 1 Cameron Erving: 1 Devin Funchess: 1 Devante Parker: 1 Devin Smith: 1 Brett Hundley: 1 Jaelen Collins: 1 If we go by this the Browns will sure bolster their defensive line with both Shelton and Brown. What would you think about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Two nose tackles? Conditional probablility is a thing -if we get Shelton at 12, no way we go brown at 19. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Just 3 more weeks of torture Torquemada. LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 I'd be interested to see a breakdown by position, and with drafts linked - so, in x% of drafts you have DT/WR, in y% you have WR/OT, in z% you have OT/DT etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Totally 180 degrees different from Mel Kipers latest. http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/04/mel_kiper_has_the_browns_think.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Taking a RB in round 1 makes zero sense for the browns. I can see us going edge-rusher and WR though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenew23 Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Just 3 more weeks of torture Torquemada. LOL! What are you talking about!?!? Only 4 days until the uniforms are unveiled... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 What are you talking about!?!? Only 4 days until the uniforms are unveiled... Only if the cheerleaders are unveiling them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren15 Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Anyone picking an OT in the first round needs hanging by their balls.....you do not use picks in rounds 1 and 2 for depth ........ DT, DE/OLB ILB WR please with first 4 picks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 I'd be interested to see a breakdown by position, and with drafts linked - so, in x% of drafts you have DT/WR, in y% you have WR/OT, in z% you have OT/DT etc. Well, you could take the list I posted and do the breakdown yourself......I thought about posting their positions, but since I was doing lot of typing I skipped that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Anyone picking an OT in the first round needs hanging by their balls.....you do not use picks in rounds 1 and 2 for depth ........ DT, DE/OLB ILB WR please with first 4 picks Thanks, Ghoolie. The problem is, historically, when the Browns have taken an OL in round one, they have done well (JT/Mack/Faine). When they have taken offensive skill players, they have been busts.....Quinn/Weeden/Braylon/JFF/William Green/Richardson/K2 I guess, for me, it is a matter of trust. Clearly they can't pick a quality offensive skill players (at least not one that doesn't turn brain dead and flame out...like K2/Braylon).....but they can pick OL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Thanks, Ghoolie. The problem is, historically, when the Browns have taken an OL in round one, they have done well (JT/Mack/Faine). When they have taken offensive skill players, they have been busts.....Quinn/Weeden/Braylon/JFF/William Green/Richardson/K2 I guess, for me, it is a matter of trust. Clearly they can't pick a quality offensive skill players (at least not one that doesn't turn brain dead and flame out...like K2/Braylon).....but they can pick OL. That would be valid if Farmer had picked all of those players. He's picked one skill player, high (literally?) that didn't work out in Manziel. But that's not exactly indicative. We are pretty set at OL, for starters at least, IMO. We also have Bowie who seems to be featuring in Pettine's plans as well for depth/competition. I wouldn't be outraged by another OL at some point, but I wouldn't like it in round 1, when we have very pressing needs, and quality players available to fill those needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 That would be valid if Farmer had picked all of those players. He's picked one skill player, high (literally?) that didn't work out in Manziel. But that's not exactly indicative. We are pretty set at OL, for starters at least, IMO. We also have Bowie who seems to be featuring in Pettine's plans as well for depth/competition. I wouldn't be outraged by another OL at some point, but I wouldn't like it in round 1, when we have very pressing needs, and quality players available to fill those needs. Bowie? Do you mean Bowe WR? Speaking of Bowie and football, if London got a team what would you think of naming them The Spiders? (just fyi, Cleveland once had a major league baseball team named The Spiders: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_Spiders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Bowie? Do you mean Bowe WR? Speaking of Bowie and football, if London got a team what would you think of naming them The Spiders? (just fyi, Cleveland once had a major league baseball team named The Spiders: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_Spiders No, I mean Michael Bowie, OL, signed last year and stashed on IR. I did not think Dwayne Bowe, WR, would be OL depth/competition. London Spiders? Nah, we're good thanks. It'll end up being bulldogs, knights, or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 No, I mean Michael Bowie, OL, signed last year and stashed on IR. I did not think Dwayne Bowe, WR, would be OL depth/competition. London Spiders? Nah, we're good thanks. It'll end up being bulldogs, knights, or something like that. You think because your avatar is a Bulldog that London would be entitled to use that name?!! No sir. That belongs to NEOhio (three champions: Canton Bulldogs/Cleveland Bulldogs). We reserve that name. Ka-nig-its....OK. The Broils....better yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Or just "The London Smog" There's a team here called London Blitz which is decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 If we go by this the Browns will sure bolster their defensive line with both Shelton and Brown. What would you think about that? I think that would be idiotic. The only reason Shelton does not dominate our 12 pick more than he does is that he did not make it to 12 in most mocks. The same reason explains why Brown ranks as high as he does at 19. Taking a RB in round 1 makes zero sense for the browns. I can see us going edge-rusher and WR though. Mel does much better at evaluating players than he does team needs... and he never seems to consider a GM's proclivities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Speaking of Bowie and football, if London got a team what would you think of naming them The Spiders? (just fyi, Cleveland once had a major league baseball team named The Spiders: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cleveland_Spiders Lime green unis for the London Limeys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Lime green unis for the London Limeys The London Bridges.....but they would have to make a trade for the Vikings QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 If they have any balls.... The London Beefeaters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren15 Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 The London Eyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Are they actually getting a team? So players will dread being part of it having to travel that far so often? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Nothing even close to official yet. But I can't imagine it being a decade away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 We are just having fun with flags....err, I mean sports team name. The London Rippers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted April 10, 2015 Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 We are just having fun with flags....err, I mean sports team name. The London Rippers. Too soon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 10, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2015 Too soon... The London Double Deckers? The London Mashers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Barksalot Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 London Werewolves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyceRolls Posted April 11, 2015 Report Share Posted April 11, 2015 The London Londons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2015 London Werewolves Theme song already in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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