Mudfly Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 happy to see the NFL administer a fair penalty.....and that they punished one of the perps, instead of the entire fan base... Looks like Goodell read my memo..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opal312 Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 I think it was fair. You're right Mudfly, they didn't penalize the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdl15 Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 How about baby shanny? He had his phone on his person, turned on and checked the incoming text... Where's baby shanny's punishment?? ( Same place the Pats' punishment is) so what you're saying is that this whole situation is shanahans fault? Classic. I never read any word that Shanahan actually checked his phone during the game maybe he checked it after the game. Like I said the Browns lost a good offensive coordinator other than that water under the bridge cares Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaconHound Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 As good a result as one could've hoped for. Money is a drop in the bucket and you don't need a GM on site for the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 so what you're saying is that this whole situation is shanahans fault? Classic. I never read any word that Shanahan actually checked his phone during the game maybe he checked it after the game. Like I said the Browns lost a good offensive coordinator other than that water under the bridge cares How many more Fickin Times can you watch, 1st and 2nd Down, We are going to run Right. Ok 3rd and 7, Where's my 5 yard pass pattern. Glad Shanny got what he Deserved, Wined his way out of Cleveland and got to a team that got his Draft pick Taken Too. Good Radiance you candy ass.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 Not as bad as we feared, but not nothing. There's a lot of player movement after the last Pre-season game that Ray will not be able to participate in... ... unless of course he texts in his thoughts. Maybe I missed the joke, but does anyone else find it funny that this is a tweet from a former Browns board member? MikeH always thought highly of his sense of humor... then it turned out he was the joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 so what you're saying is that this whole situation is shanahans fault? Classic. I never read any word that Shanahan actually checked his phone during the game maybe he checked it after the game. Like I said the Browns lost a good offensive coordinator other than that water under the bridge caresnope, there is no information either way. it would, however, be pretty fucking sweet if little shannie did return a text and got fined and suspended as well. mostly just because he's a little asshole. just like.... WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 The Browns GAINED a great OC. bye, bighead shanny. A lot folks noticed your predictable play-calling, running most all the time on first down. Idiot. Either shanny had his phone on during the game, or he didn't. Did? Then he just wanted out after one year because he didn't have any other place to go when he took the Browns job. If he didn't, then there is absolutely no advantage during the game. Never liked him anyways. We gained Flip, and that will pay off huge dividends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 Btw, after the announcement...where WAS all that super secret information about the Browns getting hammered badly, and losing draft picks...coming from? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 All in all the whole situation only cost us a pretty damn good OC. HA!!!!!!!! now that's funny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdl15 Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 Oh yea I'm sure the Brown's offense will just explode now. One of the most effective offense since 99 but yea he was garbage. Smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMurray Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 Should be fined and suspended for passing on Watkins and drafting Manziel in the 1st round. We had 2 first round picks including a top 5 and managed to come away with a worse haul then the majority of teams with only one pick outside the top 10. Look at the ratbirds getting Mosley 17th overall. Ozzie Newsome put us to shame with a fraction of what we had to work with. Could you imagine what a real GM like Newsome or Ted Thompson could have done with our picks? They would have their teams set for YEARS. We didn't even get the best CB in the draft class at 8 overall and got alcoholic Tim Tebow who will be out the league in a matter of years. I hate being a Browns fan, HOW do you mess up a top 5 pick and additional 1st rounder? HOW? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Bone Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 and got alcoholic Tim Tebow That made my day - (although I like and admire Tim as a person) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 Should be fined and suspended for passing on Watkins and drafting Manziel in the 1st round. We had 2 first round picks including a top 5 and managed to come away with a worse haul then the majority of teams with only one pick outside the top 10. Look at the ratbirds getting Mosley 17th overall. Ozzie Newsome put us to shame with a fraction of what we had to work with. Could you imagine what a real GM like Newsome or Ted Thompson could have done with our picks? They would have their teams set for YEARS. We didn't even get the best CB in the draft class at 8 overall and got alcoholic Tim Tebow who will be out the league in a matter of years. I hate being a Browns fan, HOW do you mess up a top 5 pick and additional 1st rounder? HOW? get lost you bum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted March 30, 2015 Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 Should be fined and suspended for passing on Watkins and drafting Manziel in the 1st round. We had 2 first round picks including a top 5 and managed to come away with a worse haul then the majority of teams with only one pick outside the top 10. Look at the ratbirds getting Mosley 17th overall. Ozzie Newsome put us to shame with a fraction of what we had to work with. Could you imagine what a real GM like Newsome or Ted Thompson could have done with our picks? They would have their teams set for YEARS. We didn't even get the best CB in the draft class at 8 overall and got alcoholic Tim Tebow who will be out the league in a matter of years. I hate being a Browns fan, HOW do you mess up a top 5 pick and additional 1st rounder? HOW? GTFO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalterWhite Posted March 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2015 We had 2 first round picks including a top 5 and managed to come away with a worse haul then the majority of teams with only one pick outside the top 10. Look at the ratbirds getting Mosley 17th overall. Ozzie Newsome put us to shame with a fraction of what we had to work with. Sadly, this is 100% correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Dawg Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Should be fined and suspended for passing on Watkins and drafting Manziel in the 1st round. We had 2 first round picks including a top 5 and managed to come away with a worse haul then the majority of teams with only one pick outside the top 10. Look at the ratbirds getting Mosley 17th overall. Ozzie Newsome put us to shame with a fraction of what we had to work with. Could you imagine what a real GM like Newsome or Ted Thompson could have done with our picks? They would have their teams set for YEARS. We didn't even get the best CB in the draft class at 8 overall and got alcoholic Tim Tebow who will be out the league in a matter of years. I hate being a Browns fan, HOW do you mess up a top 5 pick and additional 1st rounder? HOW? Absolutely, if you don't take into account Ozzie drafting Duane Starks, Travis Taylor, Kyle Boller, Mark Clayton, Michael Oher, and Jimmy Smith, he just nailed everything in the 1st round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Sadly, this is 100% correct no it's not. you might want to think that NOW, but we have 2 first rounders that might actually turn into something. a CB i believe will become a starter and a QB who you personally touted as the next best thing last year who might be able to pull up his boot straps and become someone as well. don't start the coulda, woulda, shoulda bullshit again because every GM and team can say the same thing. it ain't only the browns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 no it's not. you might want to think that NOW, but we have 2 first rounders that might actually turn into something. a CN i believe will become a starter and a QB who you personally touted as the next best thing last year who might be able to pull up his boot straps and become someone as well. don't start the coulda, woulda, shoulda bullshit again because every GM and team can say the same things. it ain't only the browns. Why Mik, I'm SHOCKED! Are you actually saying that a draft can't be judged after ONE year? You mean players can actually IMPROVE after year one? REALLY? Is that even POSSIBLE? Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Why Mik, I'm SHOCKED! Are you actually saying that a draft can't be judged after ONE year? You mean players can actually IMPROVE after year one? REALLY? Is that even POSSIBLE? Mike it boggles the mind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 I am assuming there are some men out there qualified to be a GM at some level. some extremely qualified who don't feel like a full time job at this point in their career. Could any of these gentlemen be hired as a consultant, get in tune with what Farmer would plan or do during that time and act as a proxy if need be? WSS I think Haslam and Pettine can fill in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenew23 Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Not as bad as we feared, but not nothing. There's a lot of player movement after the last Pre-season game that Ray will not be able to participate in... Hes not suspended until the day of the 1st game for one. Second, it's all the same scouting team, they'll just need to appoint a new trigger man for 4 weeks... The only way thay goes south is if Haslam takes it upon himself to step into that role... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck The Frowns Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 hes not allowed to be a part of any personnel decisions during that stretch also. So what's the downside? I thought this was supposed to be a punishment. Maybe allowing him to participate in the draft is the punishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Maybe I missed the joke, but does anyone else find it funny that this is a tweet from a former Browns board member? He wasn't funny. Hes not suspended until the day of the 1st game for one. Second, it's all the same scouting team, they'll just need to appoint a new trigger man for 4 weeks... The only way that goes south is if Haslam takes it upon himself to step into that role... Kuharich is well qualified to fill in- and I'm sure Farmer will leave him a complete set of notes before the suspension kicks in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMurray Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Absolutely, if you don't take into account Ozzie drafting Duane Starks, Travis Taylor, Kyle Boller, Mark Clayton, Michael Oher, and Jimmy Smith, he just nailed everything in the 1st round. Oher was a nice role player in their SB run, they don't win that SB without him, I don't think they consider him a failed draft pick at all. Jimmy Smith is a top 15 CB when he's healthy, don't know what you're talking about there. Smith will get a very nice contract with the ratbirds, he has injury concerns but there's no denying his talent. I hope Gilbert can develop into a Jimmy Smith type man-to-man corner. I would kill to have Ozzie back in Cleveland as GM, he's one of the best in the business. Only 4 failed 1st rounders in 18 years as GM is impressive. Baltimore and New England are who we should be striving to emulate as far as how they build through the draft and compete year after year. They know how to play the system, they develop quality talent on low cap hit rookie contracts, they try to re-sign only the best one's they developed and let the others get big contracts elsewhere so they can accumulate compensatory picks and start the process all over again. Despite the botched 1st round last year I do like a lot of what our front office has done thus far in FA. I think we're finally turning the corner in our philosophy and this new regime is starting to find their footing, hopefully that carries over into the draft. I'll be the first to admit my bitterness has reached a fever pitch with this franchise but there is finally a glimmer of hope at the end of the tunnel. Forgive me for my venting but if I can't do it here then where else can I? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalterWhite Posted March 31, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 no it's not. you might want to think that NOW, but we have 2 first rounders that might actually turn into something. a CB i believe will become a starter and a QB who you personally touted as the next best thing last year who might be able to pull up his boot straps and become someone as well. don't start the coulda, woulda, shoulda bullshit again because every GM and team can say the same thing. it ain't only the browns. I'm simply stating that Ozzie had done a fantastic job there. They are constantly reloading. They lost 8 starters (2 hall of famers and a 2 pro bowlers in one offseason) and then went 8-8 and the AFC championship the year after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMurray Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 I think Gilbert will still improve a lot, that's a guy to definitely remain positive about. But I'm not buying the glass half full bs on Manziel for a damn second...We took the bait and for some fans it's easier on the ego to hold onto false hope than to call a spade a spade. Dysfunctional person, small hands, terrible decision making, throws absolute ducks, can be sacked with one hand while getting blocked...guys like Brees and Wilson have physical tools that Johnny doesn't, it goes beyond just saying "Oh they're the same height, Johnny can emulate what they do". The only thing NFL level about Johnny is his ability to scramble around in the pocket and extend plays just as long as a DL doesn't breathe on him and get a sack. Johnny's game was never built for the NFL... Everybody is bigger, faster, stronger, and better coached.. db's break on his throws light years before the ball actually arrives and DL toss him to the ground with one hand while being still being blocked like they were playing with a child. These aren't typical "rookie mistakes", this is merely a player who doesn't have the physical to be effective at this level of competition. I'm not basing my entire evaluation just based on the Bengals game either, this is exactly what so many scouts predicted would happen to him at the next level since he declared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 WTF is it with Sammie Watkins love in on here, he was about the fifth (at best) rookie receiver last year. Oh and he's so good Buffalo are doing everything they now can to set themselves up to run the ball on every play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7moses7 Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 Farmer has been in this league long enough to know what he can and can't do.Seems more likely Haslam was the one behind it all.Farmer was merely the fall guy.Thats how things work in the corporate world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted March 31, 2015 Report Share Posted March 31, 2015 it boggles the mind! mik has become a manzealot. Now THAT boggles the mind! LOL!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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