gftChris Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 Adam Schefter @AdamSchefter 2m Browns are trying to sign QB Brian Hoyer to a contract extension, per sources. Hoyer is headed into last year of his deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 I am sure they would like to, but I can see that as tricky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 I've said all along, this should be an off-season priority. You don't want to over-pay him, but you want to give him sold money for a couple years. If Manziel takes a well to develop, or doesn't develop, we are going to need this guy. I see him as a key member of the team and he should be paid accordingly. Cleveland Browns trying to extend Brian Hoyer's contract, according to report CLEVELAND, Ohio - The Browns are trying to extend the contract of quarterback Brian Hoyer, ESPN's Adam Schefter is reporting today. Hoyer is in the final year of a two-year contract that pays him $1 million in 2014. Hoyer, who is coming off a torn anterior cruciate ligament, is "securely ahead" of rookie Johnny Manziel heading into training camp, according to coach Mike Pettine. "When we put the depth chart together, Brian will be No. 1," Pettine said at the conclusion of minicamp. However, Hoyer stressed that Hoyer's lead is "not insurmountable" for Manziel. Hoyer, signed by the Browns as a free agent last offseason, went 3-0 in his three starts, but tore the ligament in the first quarter of a victory over the Bills on Oct. 3. Pettine was the defensive coordinator of the Bills last season and has acknowledged that he might not be coach of the Browns right now if Hoyer had not gotten injured. "I'll never shy away from competition," Hoyer said at organized team activities last month. "It's something I've prepared myself for. This is my hometown. This is where I want to make a difference in this program. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 Measure of security now vs. waiting for possibility of a bigger contract in near future... ought to be an interesting negotiation. Current looks to be just shy of $1MM with $250k "a roster bonus". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 I like Hoyer's competitive spirit. Matches Johnny's exactly and will make for a great tandem for the Browns regardless of who starts the first game. You can bet that whichever one ends up second will not sit and cry in his beer, but continue efforts to prove staff they are wrong in selecting the other guy.They're two peas in a pod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterDog Posted June 30, 2014 Report Share Posted June 30, 2014 Well...just in case Johnny doesn't work out, at least we got a competent QB to bridge us to the NEXT first round QB selection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibleedbrown Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Fair to say it's a pretty big gap between starter money and solid backup money. I'd kinda be impressed with the guy for rejecting the latter and letting his play bump him up to the starter realm. No doubt he wants to be here, but the clock is ticking and like any professional he wants to hear a cha-ching when it goes off. Not that he'd want to talk on a money phone, but it would be nice to have the option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suomi Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 This season is Brian Hoyer's shot for a big payday. If he leads Cleveland to 8+ victories the Browns will have to pony-up with the big check to keep him - because some other QB-starved team sure will. Hoyer's agent is also Joe Flacco's agent - so he knows how to navigate these contract waters. Just like Flacco, I expect that Hoyer won't sign until after the season - and I hope it's for a huge number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 until he wins like flacco or any other top 15(ish) QB in the league there isn't going to be a huge contract. now i hope he kicks freakin butt and the browns have to seriously consider paying him. but for the sake of the team let's not break the bank on hoyer unless he becomes tom brady over night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 If all the FO is offering is backup money now then he has nothing to lose by playing out the season. Worst case for him is JFF takes the starting role and does well. Best case is he starts and plays well enough to never relinquish the starting role. Looks like a win-win for Hoyer to me. Everything to gain by his play and nothing to lose from the current money status if he is a backup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted July 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 If all the FO is offering is backup money now then he has nothing to lose by playing out the season. Worst case for him is JFF takes the starting role and does well. Best case is he starts and plays well enough to never relinquish the starting role. Looks like a win-win for Hoyer to me. Everything to gain by his play and nothing to lose from the current money status if he is a backup. He loses if JFF starts ahead of him, and by the end of the season he's out of contract, and teams don't want to take a chance on a career backup who had a couple of good games a couple of years ago. I don't see it happening - JFF starting - but it's possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterDog Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 Just because JFF starts, it doesn't mean he'll finish. Texas A&M have one of the best offensive lines in college football and JFF had numerous injuries over the past 2 seasons. The hits will be bigger and more vicious in the NFL. The bigger question is, what if Hoyer leads the Browns to the playoffs .... dear i say even WIN a playoff game. What do we do then? Do we pony up with JFF refusing to change his partying ways? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted July 1, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 If Hoyer leads us late in to the playoffs, then Hoyer probably remains the starter. JFF continues to sit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted July 1, 2014 Report Share Posted July 1, 2014 It's risky but I'd definitely wait if I were Hoyer. Barring totally shitting the bed out there the deal he'll get today will be there later in the season. There's more chance for him to earn more money than to lose it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 If Hoyer leads us late in to the palyoffs, then Hoyer probably remains the starter. JFF continues to sit. Hey is this captain obvious? Keep in mind that if he goes 0 and 3 he won't have the chance to lead the team deep into the playoffs. 3 and 0 , which hasn't been done here for a hell of a long time, he can write his own ticket. If you were in his shoes do take that gamble? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted July 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 Hey is this captain obvious? Keep in mind that if he goes 0 and 3 he won't have the chance to lead the team deep into the playoffs. 3 and 0 , which hasn't been done here for a hell of a long time, he can write his own ticket. If you were in his shoes do take that gamble? WSS Just responding to the obvious question with the obvious answer! If I'm in his shoes, I don't sign a contract now - or if I do, it's for double money for an extra year. Make his $1m for 1 year deal, $2m per year for 2 years. If he sucks, he's still got a nice pay bump and then goes back to being a backup. If he wins, he's got a renewal coming up at the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyin J Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 I think itll be somewhere in the range of 3 yr 10-12 mill. A substantial raise and some stability, not too much, not too little. Top backup money, but he'll sign because of the uncertainty of the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 I think itll be somewhere in the range of 3 yr 10-12 mill. A substantial raise and some stability, not too much, not too little. Top backup money, but he'll sign because of the uncertainty of the situation. Half guaranteed with possible mutual option in year 3 and that might do it... for now. I like Hoyer's competitive spirit. Matches Johnny's exactly and will make for a great tandem for the Browns regardless of who starts the first game. You can bet that whichever one ends up second will not sit and cry in his beer, but continue efforts to prove staff they are wrong in selecting the other guy.They're two peas in a pod. A mutant pod maybe... Agree both are competitive, but Hoyer's is tempered by his maturity. It's called "being a pro". No such counterbalancing force is discernable in JM's make-up as yet. Plus weren't you one of those that pointed out that JM needs to start to keep him focused? That his redshirt frosh year has already showed he does not sit well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 All of you JF nuthuggers should read this for what it is....an indictment of jf's ability to start opening day, or even opening day 2015. My dream scenario when we drafted JF was for him to sit and study behind Hoyer for "at least" 2 years. It looks like the Browns have thankfully figured out this is the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted July 2, 2014 Report Share Posted July 2, 2014 as a player you are always one hit away from ending his career and if you haven't signed for the pot 'o gold before that time you'd be kicking yourself in the arse for the rest of your life (that is if you still have a leg to kick himself in the arse with). getting hurt last year might throw a little push behind hoyer's decision. and no, this isn't a post about gordon with terms like one hit, pot and arse (being josh himself). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted July 3, 2014 Report Share Posted July 3, 2014 I think itll be somewhere in the range of 3 yr 10-12 mill. A substantial raise and some stability, not too much, not too little. Top backup money, but he'll sign because of the uncertainty of the situation. Didn't the Browns pay Delhomme something like $3 million? I'd ask for a ton of performance incentives- and I'd bet the Browns would be more than happy to oblige. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowieDawg Posted July 3, 2014 Report Share Posted July 3, 2014 Every time JFF is snapped drinking Moet out of Justin beiber's asshole, Brian sits at home rubbing out his contract figure and adding zeros to it. I bet he's telling JFF that he thinks he great and hell yes, go party, you're young have some life, whilst he phone's his agent tipping the paps off about where Johnnyis going for the weekend. So two points there, JFF's antics have I am sure made Hoyer leverage his position and why not, he hasn't proved much be has proved more than Johnny and the Ginger Nutt we drafted before him. We should get Brian done, perhaps for a little more than we might have thanks to JFF but we'll get him done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyin J Posted July 3, 2014 Report Share Posted July 3, 2014 Didn't the Browns pay Delhomme something like $3 million? I'd ask for a ton of performance incentives- and I'd bet the Browns would be more than happy to oblige. I have no idea what Delhomme made, but I doubt itll be incentive laced considering he may be a backup, a big chunk will be guaranteed as Tour mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopDawg31 Posted July 3, 2014 Report Share Posted July 3, 2014 We have not had a QB start 16 games since Couch, JFF will start a game sometime this season. If I were Hoyer I would sign now, play it out, then cash in when and if he loses his starting job to JFF. There will be plenty of suitors if he wants to continue being a starter elsewhere. Now I ask was his good play a product of Turners offense or a product of Hoyer becoming a quality starter in any offense? That question will be answered early I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted July 3, 2014 Report Share Posted July 3, 2014 Didn't the Browns pay Delhomme something like $3 million? I'd ask for a ton of performance incentives- and I'd bet the Browns would be more than happy to oblige. Did Delhomme's contract have to do anything with the veteran minimum? I don't know at all about that but that might have made a difference. Interesting about the incentive-based contract idea though, definitely hit or miss but could be good for Hoyer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted July 4, 2014 Report Share Posted July 4, 2014 google is your friend... In 2010 we paid Delhomme $7MM and Caroline chipped in another $12.7MM for $19.7MM total. I'm gonna guess the offer to Brian will be slightly less... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted July 5, 2014 Report Share Posted July 5, 2014 google is your friend... In 2010 we paid Delhomme $7MM and Caroline chipped in another $12.7MM for $19.7MM total. I'm gonna guess the offer to Brian will be slightly less... Talk about a golden parachute Tour. I had no idea it was that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted July 5, 2014 Report Share Posted July 5, 2014 Now I ask was his good play a product of Turners offense now that's hilarious!! lol. that offense and staff that led us to a 4 and 12 season. yep norv's career has been looking up since????? and the chargers fired shottenheimer. biggest joke ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopDawg31 Posted July 5, 2014 Report Share Posted July 5, 2014 now that's hilarious!! lol. that offense and staff that led us to a 4 and 12 season. yep norv's career has been looking up since????? and the chargers fired shottenheimer. biggest joke ever. Ok then, we can agree he is good and it wasn't just a product of the system, cause that is what I am hoping for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcam222 Posted July 7, 2014 Report Share Posted July 7, 2014 I think Hoyer would be a complete idiot to sign any deal until we see how the season starts to play out. The only way I can imagine him signing would be a lot of incentive language increasing the money significantly if he ends up the starter for x amount of games etc. I am sure his agent agrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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