NFL Fox reporting Browns are hiring John DeFilippo as new OC

[OldBrownsFan]

When the Browns hired Pettine I did not know anything about him. I was disappointed because other coaches I wanted either flat out turned down the Browns or went to other teams. When I read up on Pettine I saw the Browns had done their homework and gotten the best coach possible. I believe DeFilippo is the OC Pettine wanted. Until proven otherwise I will trust his judgment. Regardless I did not want Shanahan in Cleveland when he did not want to be in Cleveland.

[jcam222]

It's not about what I am saying it is about what happened... Do you not understand? Horrible bust of a draft.

So sick of little bitches like you. He draft is more than just round one moron. Overall from the draft, UDFA and vet FA's it was damn good. There was a lot of talent added to this team. Hopefully Gilbert turns a corner. And Johnny well it's a write off lol.

[hoorta]

He's not a season ticket holder. He's full of shit. Just 3 seasons ago when we all made the trip for the opener against the Eagles, Rooster Dick was looking for a free ticket to go to the game. Because he's rooster dick and a pansy ass, he didn't get Zombos seat (who didn't make it that year) and it sat empty.

 

Thanks for calling the fraud out Mark.

 

 

I'm hearing 6th if that.

 

If the guy puts in the effort he might be good, but it really doesn't look like he's willing to do that.

 

He caused a stir among the Team as posted in the 2015 - FA / Draft / Notes thread, but the guy was rich before he came to the NFL so his motivation is low, and seems to only care about partying.

 

I'm not sold that he has the physical attributes to succeed, the intangibles aren't unknown until he puts in the effort.

 

That's part of Manziel's problem. If he totally fucks up, he's still rich. If he wants to be a champion boozer- he can drink himself to death like AC\DCs Bon Scott.

[Cbus Brownie]

So sick of little bitches like you. He draft is more than just round one moron. Overall from the draft, UDFA and vet FA's it was damn good. There was a lot of talent added to this team. Hopefully Gilbert turns a corner. And Johnny well it's a write off lol.

Why, because he acknowledges fact? We did get some talent no doubts, we also whiffed HUGE with 2 1st rounders, again.

[miktoxic]

Why, because he acknowledges fact? We did get some talent no doubts, we also whiffed HUGE with 2 1st rounders, again.

 

gilbert will be fine. your blow boy though sucks ass.

[OldBrownsFan]

Since 99 the Browns have been laying a foundation to build on then constantly tearing down the foundation before anything get's built. I finally see something they can build on without tearing the whole foundation out. We have a new owner who is committed to winning. A smart GM who in his first draft by all accounts did well but made a huge error on Manziel. I cannot explain it. It makes no sense after they spent $100,000 for a study who to draft for QB and it wasn't JM. Then there were the red flags about JM they knew already, partying, effort, maturity, etc....Gilbert may still turn around. After being disciplined he has promised to do better. I don't fault Farmer for picking him. How could anyone know he wouldn't play to his potential? Now he needs to follow through with his words by his actions. Then we have Pettine who was a real find for this team. He is a good players coach who also seems to be a good disciplinarinan. He came here with a good resume and is well respected in the NFL.

[Itoldyou]

 

 

We got three starting players, a future starter, trade bait, and some depth.

 

Don't like it? Too bad, baby back bitch.

3 starting players? Trade bait? Please explain these three starter and trade bait drafted.

[Itoldyou]

So sick of little bitches like you. He draft is more than just round one moron. Overall from the draft, UDFA and vet FA's it was damn good. There was a lot of talent added to this team. Hopefully Gilbert turns a corner. And Johnny well it's a write off lol.

Uh ohh the idiots are out in full blast now. What a bust of a draft you can't even name me these great players that were drafted last year.

[miktoxic]

What a bust of a draft you can't even name me these great players that were drafted last year.

 

well name us the players you think the browns blew it on then.

[Cbus Brownie]

 

gilbert will be fine. your blow boy though sucks ass.

Oh ok, if Mik's bitch ass says he'll be fine. Forget him losing pt to an undrafted FA, and Desir because he sucked terribly on the field. What does how he plays have to do with anything, just have some blind faith like Mik's dumb ass.

[GuNNerGatSKi]

I think it's called "pruning". Housecleaning was, and still would be, a gross overreaction. Whatever Shanny's issues were I'd say that the team felt, if not knew of, their existence by Week 15.

 

 

 

Hahaha that was pretty slick there tour I see what ya did haha.

 

But in all seriousness: Youngstown is synonymous with hardworking badassery.

[Tour2ma]

To me, Johnny is trade bait until he either performs or fails over a 6 game stretch.

 

Even after he fails, Dallas would still probably give up a second.

Got it... Thought you were referring to JM, but wanted to be sure.

 

You're right, we almost made .500 this year! Things are looking great!

 

Idiot.

It's called progress... which is great compared to treading water around 4-12.

 

"Idiot" better describes those that feel we should have gone 12-4 one-year removed from treading water.

 

 

As for your running Gilbert argument. No, not a bust, not yet. Also not worth the #1 spent on him, not yet. The jury is still out.

[Cbus Brownie]

Got it... Thought you were referring to JM, but wanted to be sure.

 

 

It's called progress... which is great compared to treading water around 4-12.

 

"Idiot" better describes those that feel we should have gone 12-4 one-year removed from treading water.

 

 

As for your running Gilbert argument. No, not a bust, not yet. Also not worth the #1 spent on him, not yet. The jury is still out.

That's reasonable logic, but I won't apologize for lacking blind faith. As a fanbase, at this point, we need to see it to believe it. Put up or shut up because all the talk is just that.

[Westside Steve]

That's reasonable logic, but I won't apologize for lacking blind faith. As a fanbase, at this point, we need to see it to believe it. Put up or shut up because all the talk is just that.

So's pissing and moaning and belly aching and crying and bitching and whining .......

Ya don't like it don't watch it.

 

 

 

WSS

[Tim Couch Pulls Out]

3 starting players? Trade bait? Please explain these three starter and trade bait drafted.

Bitonio, West and Kirksey are all starters. Desir actually started a game as well. (And so did Manziel, I guess.) So technically 5 starters.

 

Bitonio was graded out not only as one of the most impactful rookies, but also as one of the best guards in the NFL in 2014. Both West and Desir are considered to be major steals in the draft by literally every major scout and analyst, both started this season, and both will compete for starting jobs in camp this offseason. Kirksey will also likely compete for a starting job. He started 8 games as a rookie but contributed in all 16 and has received positive reviews from coaches and analysts.

 

 

If they don't shape up, Manziel or Gilbert can and will be traded at some point within the next two years. There's no two ways around it. If they don't get traded, it's because they have grown the fuck up and taken hold of their job...which is still good.

 

Once camp rolls around, I fully expect Gilbert to change and take hold of his starting job. I also fully expect the catalyst behind this change will either be Donte Whitner jackslapping the shit out of him in camp or Desir just curb stomping him in terms of performance.

 

They got three foundational players in rounds 2-6, an extra first round pick, an extra fourth round pick, and two guys who might (we hope) turn into dynamic NFL players. And, if they don't, there will be value there via trade later. Even assuming both Manziel and Gilbert never play another down, that's still three-four starters and two picks in the top 116 in the 2015 Draft.

 

3 starting players? Trade bait? Please explain these three starter and trade bait drafted.

Bitonio, West and Kirksey are all starters. Desir actually started a game as well. (And so did Manziel, I guess.) So technically 5 starters.

 

Bitonio was graded out as one of the best guards in the NFL. Go ahead and try to take issue with that. Both West and Desir are considered to be major steals in the draft by literally every major scout and analyst. Kirksey will likely com

 

Manziel or Gilbert can and will be traded at some point within the next two years. There's no two ways around it. If they don't get traded, it's because they have grown the fuck up and taken hold of their job...which is still good.

 

And none of this is taking into account the UDFA's acquired by Farmer who both started and shined this season.

 

 

The difference between you and I is that you judge the draft off of the performance of the first round, big name guys...whereas I look at the performance of everyone.

 

The other difference is that you're a wet-brained idiot and I'm not.

[Itoldyou]

Bitonio, West and Kirksey are all starters. Desir actually started a game as well. (And so did Manziel, I guess.) So technically 5 starters.

Bitonio was graded out not only as one of the most impactful rookies, but also as one of the best guards in the NFL in 2014. Both West and Desir are considered to be major steals in the draft by literally every major scout and analyst, both started this season, and both will compete for starting jobs in camp this offseason. Kirksey will also likely compete for a starting job. He started 8 games as a rookie but contributed in all 16 and has received positive reviews from coaches and analysts.

If they don't shape up, Manziel or Gilbert can and will be traded at some point within the next two years. There's no two ways around it. If they don't get traded, it's because they have grown the fuck up and taken hold of their job...which is still good.

Once camp rolls around, I fully expect Gilbert to change and take hold of his starting job. I also fully expect the catalyst behind this change will either be Donte Whitner jackslapping the shit out of him in camp or Desir just curb stomping him in terms of performance.

They got three foundational players in rounds 2-6, an extra first round pick, an extra fourth round pick, and two guys who might (we hope) turn into dynamic NFL players. And, if they don't, there will be value there via trade later. Even assuming both Manziel and Gilbert never play another down, that's still three-four starters and two picks in the top 116 in the 2015 Draft.

Bitonio, West and Kirksey are all starters. Desir actually started a game as well. (And so did Manziel, I guess.) So technically 5 starters.

Bitonio was graded out as one of the best guards in the NFL. Go ahead and try to take issue with that. Both West and Desir are considered to be major steals in the draft by literally every major scout and analyst. Kirksey will likely com

Manziel or Gilbert can and will be traded at some point within the next two years. There's no two ways around it. If they don't get traded, it's because they have grown the fuck up and taken hold of their job...which is still good.

And none of this is taking into account the UDFA's acquired by Farmer who both started and shined this season.

The difference between you and I is that you judge the draft off of the performance of the first round, big name guys...whereas I look at the performance of everyone.

The other difference is that you're a lookwet-brained idiot and I'm not.

You are kidding me right? Fucking idiot.

 

West 3.9 YPC... Yea amazing.

Manziel and Gilbert both busts... Is he does it again it will set this franchise back even more then the Owner has done.

 

One good player out of a whole fucking draft where you have TWO first round draft picks...

[Tim Couch Pulls Out]

You are kidding me right? Fucking idiot.

 

West 3.9 YPC... Yea amazing.

Manziel and Gilbert both busts... Is he does it again it will set this franchise back even more then the Owner has done.

 

One good player out of a whole fucking draft where you have TWO first round draft picks...

3.9 YPC from a 3rd round rookie, sharing time with two other backs? Yeah, I'll take it.

 

Both Crowell and West finished the year ranked ahead (by DVOA) of Fred Jackson, Joique Bell, Gio Bernard, Darren McFadden, Doug Martin, Andre Ellington, Ben Tate and (your boy) Trent Richardson. Not nearly elite, but for two backs sharing the load, it's nothing to scoff at.

 

Go ahead and keeping basing your ideals off of Madden player rankings and stats. The rest of us will live in the real world.

 

Mel Kiper regraded the Browns draft today. B-.

 

But clearly, you know more than a professional. That's why you're posting here.

[miktoxic]

when did this board get invaded by all these negative nancies?

 

draft sucked, season sucked, people need to be fired, cleveland football sucks, it's always sucked.......

 

fucking shut up you fucking douchebags. dumbass 12 year olds just stirring shit up.

[BaconHound]

when did this board get invaded by all these negative nancies?

 

draft sucked, season sucked, people need to be fired, cleveland football sucks, it's always sucked.......

 

fucking shut up you fucking douchebags. dumbass 12 year olds just stirring shit up.

 

Draft was good, first round is a miss to this point.

 

Coaches need time to prove what they have, we'll see if Shanahan leaving is an omen or a guy who was just unhappy.

 

Cleveland football for all intents and purposes does suck, as a fan not happy about it but the numbers don't lie.

 

Cleveland football hasn't always sucked but it's been a while since it was relevant.

 

And the constant, name calling on the browns board

[miktoxic]

i'd rather walk around in life looking for the good things rather than focusing on the bad.

 

you don't help yourself any suggesting people call you names when you pst negative shit all the time.

 

i know i wouldn't want to be around somebody that just complains and bitches all the time. people should be happy they're still drawing a breath.

[Cbus Brownie]

So's pissing and moaning and belly aching and crying and bitching and whining .......

Ya don't like it don't watch it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Stop being content with it Steve, this is Bullshit. We want a fuckin franchise that competes, stop settling YOU FUCK

[BaconHound]

i'd rather walk around in life looking for the good things rather than focusing on the bad.

 

you don't help yourself any suggesting people call you names when you pst negative shit all the time.

 

i know i wouldn't want to be around somebody that just complains and bitches all the time. people should be happy they're still drawing a breath.

 

I'm a Celtics fan and they stink but there is no reason to complain because the current regime built one champion and they are trying to rebuild another one.

 

Wasn't happy my Bruins collapsed last year in the Stanley Cup Playoffs but they too have won a championship recently and they still make the playoffs.

 

Yanks looked bad last year and they may this year but hopefully they will move away from signing insane free agent deals and rebuild a championship team again but not hating on them either, they have built a winner a will again.

 

But the Browns show a lack of understanding on any level what it takes to field a playoff caliber team and have looked like utter dog shit for the majority of the last 15 years, so yeah some of us see negativity. You look at playoff droughts in the NFL it's the Bills, Raiders, Browns & Rams.

[Tim Couch Pulls Out]

 

So's pissing and moaning and belly aching and crying and bitching and whining .......

Ya don't like it don't watch it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Stop being content with it Steve, this is Bullshit. We want a fuckin franchise that competes, stop settling YOU FUCK

 

Because being a little bitch about it is gonna change it.

[calfoxwc]

Good grief, you trolls need to go on vacation.

 

Enough of the prissy bitching. Pettine and Farmer just came on board,

and you trolls want to keep bitching and whining and baconpounding

about the last fifteen.

[JAFBF]

When the Browns hired Pettine I did not know anything about him. I was disappointed because other coaches I wanted either flat out turned down the Browns or went to other teams. When I read up on Pettine I saw the Browns had done their homework and gotten the best coach possible. I believe DeFilippo is the OC Pettine wanted. Until proven otherwise I will trust his judgment. Regardless I did not want Shanahan in Cleveland when he did not want to be in Cleveland.

 

It's been said that last year when Pettine was looking for an OC that he really liked DeFilippo and wanted to hire him.

 

Being a new HC himself, with pretty much everyone else on the Coaching staff being new to their positions too, Pettine went with Shanahan since he was experienced.

Might have been too much if the OC had been a Rookie Coach as well.

[JAFBF]

 

Draft was good, first round is a miss to this point.

 

Coaches need time to prove what they have, we'll see if Shanahan leaving is an omen or a guy who was just unhappy.

 

Cleveland football for all intents and purposes does suck, as a fan not happy about it but the numbers don't lie.

 

Cleveland football hasn't always sucked but it's been a while since it was relevant.

 

And the constant, name calling on the browns board

 

Fair assessment.

 

 

 

In regards to the many Draft comments, don't forget all the UDFA's Farmer brought in :

 

Connor Shaw

Isaiah Crowell

Ray Agnew

Taylor Gabriel

K’Waun Williams

Robert Nelson

 

Likely missing a few, but some good pick-ups there.

 

 

 

FA's are another story, and I've pretty much lost track of them.

[nickers]

I think we need to remind ourselves that UDFA's are late picks, had there still been 12 rounds in the draft.. But credit Farmer and the scouting dep't for doing they're homework on these kids...

[hoorta]

At the time nobody played like they belonged in the NFL, do you remember how bad that game was ?

3 First Downs and 107 Total yards . . .

 

The way they played, or failed to play, or even that it was possible for them to be that bad . . .

 

Yeah, I think there still needs to be some House Cleaning, don't think we need the full reboot or for it to be as drastic as I was first calling for though.

Also think we need the injection of some fierce Leadership among the Players.

 

It's coming out that there are/were some Locker Room issues going on last year as well.

 

 

I'm still PO'd about that game . . .

 

Refer to the ESPN article- that crap offensive performance is 90% on Johnny Jamboogie.

 

Agreed. Some of these assholes think you should go root for another team if your not content making the playoffs once every 15 years.

I'll be a fan and go to several games a year if we never win another fucking game. Some of you need to own up to the fact that our franchise sucks right now, and we need a major culture change in the FO to turn it around. I'm still believe in Farmer, but I'm starting to get skeptical..

 

Maybe you missed it- I saw some culture change last year.

 

Oh ok, if Mik's bitch ass says he'll be fine. Forget him losing pt to an undrafted FA, and Desir because he sucked terribly on the field. What does how he plays have to do with anything, just have some blind faith like Mik's dumb ass.

 

I have faith that Gilbert does have elite measurables- he has to learn how to use them. True- hasn't yet. Takes some time for a few guys to adjust- at least Gilbert hasn't shown up on TMZ yet.

 

So's pissing and moaning and belly aching and crying and bitching and whining .......

Ya don't like it don't watch it.

 

 

Stop being content with it Steve, this is Bullshit. We want a fuckin franchise that competes, stop settling YOU FUCK

 

So what do you suggest guy? I'm listening. Every diehard fan wants a franchise that competes.

 

FYI- the Browns DID compete- they just wound up on the losing end a few times. Steelers -3, Ravens -3 (last play fg), Colts -1 despite horrible play by Hoyer, competitive until the 4th quarter against the Ravens- with a third string qb running the show.

 

Aw gee- so you DEMAND better- aint a damn thing your demanding will do to improve the team.

[OldBrownsFan]

I know Urban Meyer is a college coach but I am just using him as an example of what I believe is the best attribute of any winning coach. They hate to lose. There is a pain to losing that drives them to win. If you look at Meyer's record he wins wherever he goes. I heard him comment about pushing his defense in practice preparing against Oregon's hurry up offense. He told the players you can experience the pain now practicing or experience the pain of losing. These type coaches drive themselves to give 100 percent, find any advantage they can to win and are constantly working on improvement and not getting complacent. They know in the end it is worth it.

[Zombo]

 

 

Maybe you missed it- I saw some culture change last year.

 

 

 

 

I saw a complete culture change last year.

 

What do people think a "culture change" is ... that you just announce "We are changing the culture".

 

That is 0% of it. Actually going out and holding people accountable for the first time since 1999 is the culture change. Farmer and Pettine said "we're going this way ... and you are either with us or against us". And then they made those who weren't all in accountable.

 

Just because Johnny, Justin and Josh were acting up isn't a sign that the organization is out of control. It is the exact opposite. You're going to whine and be immature, Justin? Sit on the bench. Not happy with your role this week, Terrance West? Well, you can be third string then. Still, not taking this shit, serious, Josh? How bout we suspend you for a game ... go whine to the union. You want out of here, Shanny? There's the fucking door. Still not getting it Johnny? We'll fine your ass, embarrass you and put drafting a QB back on the table. Hell, maybe we'll re-sign Hoyer, he's got half the talent of you but he shows up prepared every fucking day even when he's not playing.

 

I maintain THIS FRANCHISE TURNED AROUND THE DAY THEY FIRED JOE BANNER AND MIKE LOMBARDI and put the football people in charge. Farmer and Pettine are running this ship their way. By the way, that was less than a year ago, you impatient motherfuckers.

 

The Culture IS being established. The team played hard for 16 weeks, and if you weren't all in, you were out.

 

Did we draft a couple snot-nosed punks? Yep. Still plenty of time for them to decide to Play Like a Brown. Best thing we did was bring in veterans like Danbsy and Whitner who aren't afraid to rip those rookies a new one and tell it like it is.

 

We went 7-9, half our schedule was against playoff teams. We showed in the second Pittsburgh game and the first Cincinnati game what this team has the potential to be.

 

We've hired the right people. We've changed the culture. Now we need to find a QB to run the show. That is half the battle, or more, in the NFL now, just look at the playoff teams.

 

Zombo