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NFL Quarterback Power Rankings, Post Week 2

 

By Ryan Riddle, Featured Columnist

 

Sep 17, 2014

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24. Brian Hoyer, Cleveland Browns

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This Week

24

 

Week 2 Performance

 

Opponent

 

Outcome

 

Comp

 

Att

 

PCT

 

Yards

 

TD

 

INT

 

Saints

 

W 26-24

 

24

 

40

 

60

 

204

 

1

 

0

The Browns pulled off a most unexpected upset against the New Orleans Saints last week at home. Led by Brian Hoyer, who attemped 40 passes on the day, Cleveland went ahead late in the game with a nice drive that finished with a field goal.

 

Season Average

24.6

Ranked 24th overall, Hoyer has looked better than the sampling we saw in the preseason, where he seemed to lack confidence and rhythm. This is the first time this season where Hoyer has moved anywhere on the rankings, and it is appropriate to come with a big win against the Saints.

 

Week-by-Week Breakdown

 

Week

 

Opponent

 

Outcome

 

Comp

 

Att

 

PCT

 

Yards

 

TD

 

INT

 

Rank

 

1

 

@ Pittsburgh

 

L 27-30

 

19

 

31

 

61.3

 

230

 

1

 

0

 

25

 

2

 

New Orleans

 

W 26-24

 

24

 

40

 

60

 

204

 

1

 

0

 

25

 

Next Week Outlook

The last time the Ravens and Browns played, the Browns came away with a 24-18 win. This year Cleveland has struggled on the defensive side of the ball and Josh Gordon is not going to play.

Hoyer continues to hold off the inevitable start of Johnny Manziel. But if he wants to finish the season as the starter he needs to move up at least into the teens.

This is a big divisional game against a talented defense.

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He's winning, for now. I was a big hoyer honk the whole offseason...did not want to see JM start one game this season. But Hoyer has to look better than he has these first two games. Some of the things we saw in preseason are still there. Last year he was pinpoint on the short throws. He's had some Weedonesque type misses so far this season. Throws that make people say what the hell was that the dude was wide open. Those kind of glaring mistakes should happen a couple times a season, let alone two games in.

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These rankings appear to be absolutely bogus and superficial. It does not seem to take into account any wins/losses, or even any statistical factors. It is just one guys subjective rating. You have Brian Hoyer with -0- interceptions ranking below others with several ints.

Sorry, this is just something that has been pulled out of the ass of whomever wrote this.

 

Not that I am a big fan of the passer rating system, or the QBR, but at least they rely on objective statistics, not this seat of the pants opinion rating.

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Need to preface any further comment by saying causal analysis to explain a failure is not the same as making excuses.

 

So far I can recall one bad throw that was inexplicable. The bulk of the bad can be attributed to throwing off his back foot due to pressure he is trying to avoid to get off the pass. There may have been a hint of "stay away from my leg(s)" in some of these cases. But even with that...

- A couple of the worst looking ones (could have been confused with punts) were still thrown where only Browns players had a chance of catching them.

- A few catchable drops were on the other end of back foot throws. Some were dropped by a Browns' WR, but a couple were dropped by an opponent's DB.

 

Week 2's underthrown deep ball to Benji was not a result of the above, but may have shown the limit of his arm.

 

On the other hand, BH has shown he is willing to stand in and take a hit if the play is there. Took a good shot from a DB blitzer with a free run just after delivering a strike to Hawk on this week's Series 3 Play 13 (short out on 3rd & 2).

 

Incompletions are the 2nd best outcome of any throw...

BH is our QB for his head... not his arm...

And his decision making has been very good.

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He's not making any mistakes, he has engineered two terrific comebacks, and he has had No Gordon, and Tate and Cameron for little more than a quarter a piece. And he's holding off one of the most popular and exciting celebrities in sport through his hard work, passion and steadiness. If you want to give that a number, then give it a number.

 

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He's not making any mistakes, he has engineered two terrific comebacks, and he has had No Gordon, and Tate and Cameron for little more than a quarter a piece. And he's holding off on off the most popular and exciting celebrities in sport through his hard work, passion and steadiness. If you want to give that a number, then give it a number.

 

Zombo

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he started on his own four yard line and had a 14 play, 86 yard drive of the last couple of minutes of the game, hit third and fourth downs to move the chains and gave us a win. How many QB's right now can say they could pull that off against the Saints Defense and Drew Brees? put a number on that one

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I'm not sure I buy the game manager label, I can see why people say it. But the guy has done his fair share of final scoring drives to get the W. He's pretty clutch.

Game manager is about not losing the game, but it does not exclude winning one, if circumstances dictate it.

 

I'd bet a fair amount that when trailing late Hoyer has made calls and throws he would not have made had the Browns been ahead. Not saying it's an all or nothing thing mind you... more of a throttle.

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Game manager is about not losing the game, but it does not exclude winning one, if circumstances dictate it.

 

I'd bet a fair amount that when trailing late Hoyer has made calls and throws he would not have made had the Browns been ahead. Not saying it's an all or nothing thing mind you... more of a throttle.

Hoyer does.. He makes the plays "when you absolutely need them".. Now what QB have the Browns had since 99,thats done that on a consistent basis..... That's right ZERO!
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I tend to think Hoyer's still working through some things, meaning he's only going to get better. Have we seen him run at all this year? He used to do that if the yardage was there. I think the Buffalo half slide incident put a damper on that, but hopefully not the kibosh.

 

Not that l want him running willy nilly. That would be silly you hillbilly.

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