Vers Posted September 30, 2014 Report Share Posted September 30, 2014 I see a lot of middle school logic in this thread. That tells me something. I also see many saying "after one game.........." That tells me something else. The first comment tells me you are intellectual peons. The second tells me that you did not watch him in college. He was the only qb in the draft that read defenses and coverages w/any sort of success. He may--or may not--be a great qb, but your reasoning is illogical. I say he has what it takes to be successful. That is not a guarantee, it is called a prediction that was fueled by logic rather than ignorance or middle school-itis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Barksalot Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 He was the only qb in the draft that read defenses and coverages w/any sort of success. WRONG!!!!!! Im pretty sure AJ McCarron was awfully good at doing just that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyceRolls Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 I'm saying that seems a likely factor at why other QB needy teams passed on him. Or at the very least they thought Bortles and Manziel were better prospects. (Or more durable?) He was penned to be the #1 pick at one time but dropped for whatever reason. IIRC he had some bad performances on pro day. I hope he does well for the Vikes. They have been struggling for a QB and any Browns fan can show some empathy over that. Brandon Weeden was selected before Russel Wilson and Nick Foles (unfortunately) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taco918 Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 I see a lot of middle school logic in this thread. That tells me something. I also see many saying "after one game.........." That tells me something else. The first comment tells me you are intellectual peons. The second tells me that you did not watch him in college. He was the only qb in the draft that read defenses and coverages w/any sort of success. He may--or may not--be a great qb, but your reasoning is illogical. I say he has what it takes to be successful. That is not a guarantee, it is called a prediction that was fueled by logic rather than ignorance or middle school-itis. A prediction is merely an unproven hypothesis. Since you've accomplished middle school, you should realize that a singular sample isn't enough to prove your unproven hypothesis. Reasoning is understanding a singular sample isn't enough to base a fact on. Taking the necessary time needed to make a legitimate assessment is the epitome of logic, something your "argument" lacks. Don't belittle others for their logic when your own is complete horseshit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tml1138 Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 Brandon Weeden was selected before Russel Wilson and Nick Foles (unfortunately) Yes, of course Bridgewater could turn out better. My point was NFL team experts didn't think so. Perhaps due to not only his poor pro day showing, but maybe issues of durability as well. VikesGuy is arguing that point. But really none of us know, we are just making predictions. So far he's had an ankle injury after just under 7 quarters of game time. Bad enough that he's questionable to play this week vs GB, and hasn't practiced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 ... ignore that it was for extra credit in school? Did Teddy major in Cosmetology? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 I see a lot of middle school logic in this thread. That tells me something. I also see many saying "after one game.........." That tells me something else. The first comment tells me you are intellectual peons. The second tells me that you did not watch him in college. He was the only qb in the draft that read defenses and coverages w/any sort of success. He may--or may not--be a great qb, but your reasoning is illogical. I say he has what it takes to be successful. That is not a guarantee, it is called a prediction that was fueled by logic rather than ignorance or middle school-itis. I know one thing, you're an asshole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 The second tells me that you did not watch him in college. He was the only qb in the draft that read defenses and coverages w/any sort of success. He may--or may not--be a great qb, but your reasoning is illogical. I say he has what it takes to be successful. That is not a guarantee, it is called a prediction that was fueled by logic rather than ignorance or middle school-itis. Do you even realize how stupid what you said is? Let's start with the fact that you blatantly contradict yourself above. I don't do this on the site often, but let's go down the list of a few recent burnout QB's and their first career starts: Jamarcus Russel: 74.2% completion, 225 yds, 1td, 91.3 QB rating Brady Quinn: 65.7% completion, 239 yds, 2 tds, 104.3! QB rating Matt Leinart: 62.3% completion, 232 yds, 2tds, 91.7 rating. Bridgewater first start: 63.3% completion, 317 yds, 98.9 QB rating So, Jamarcus Russel had a higher completion% and our pretty boy Quinn had a higher rating than your love child did in his first career start. But please, keep telling me how it's stupid to say making too much out of one start is short-sighted. I'm sure Russell would love having that conversation with you over some purple drank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 I see a lot of middle school logic in this thread. That tells me something. I also see many saying "after one game.........." That tells me something else. The first comment tells me you are intellectual peons. The second tells me that you did not watch him in college. He was the only qb in the draft that read defenses and coverages w/any sort of success. He may--or may not--be a great qb, but your reasoning is illogical. I say he has what it takes to be successful. That is not a guarantee, it is called a prediction that was fueled by logic rather than ignorance or middle school-itis. Logic told everyone that Ryan Leaf was going to be on a par with Peyton Manning. Logic told people that Matt Leinert was one of the best QB prospects to come out in a decade. Logic told people that Kurt Warner should have stuck to bagging groceries. Logic told us that Brady Quinn and Brandon Weeden were going to be franchise QBs. Logic tells you that Teddy Twatwater is going to be a big time pro QB because he was good in college. So weren't all those other busts. But I am sorry Spock, but predicting the success of a QB cannot be done logically. Viscerally, I say that my impression is that he won't do so good. But viscerality is as often wrong as logic at this game. So, who knows.....certainly not you with your logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 Testing, testing. It seems that we have the automatic change of name for Teddy Twatwater going on. Edit....test confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterDog Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 I watched the entire game. Teddy is going to be good.... Good footwork and did a good job on reading the defense. Step 1 looks complete with 99 more steps to go. You can't deny the fact that he's trending in the right direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterDog Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 Yes, of course Bridgewater could turn out better. My point was NFL team experts didn't think so. Perhaps due to not only his poor pro day showing, but maybe issues of durability as well. VikesGuy is arguing that point. But really none of us know, we are just making predictions. So far he's had an ankle injury after just under 7 quarters of game time. Bad enough that he's questionable to play this week vs GB, and hasn't practiced. Some of these experts had Manziel at number 1 overall. That is now borderline comical. If the draft was held today, he won't even be selected in the top 3 rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 Some of these experts had Manziel at number 1 overall. That is now borderline comical. If the draft was held today, he won't even be selected in the top 3 rounds. Oh look, another Masterdog anti Manziel post. What a surprise. Fuking idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vers Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 Do you even realize how stupid what you said is? Let's start with the fact that you blatantly contradict yourself above. I don't do this on the site often, but let's go down the list of a few recent burnout QB's and their first career starts: Jamarcus Russel: 74.2% completion, 225 yds, 1td, 91.3 QB rating Brady Quinn: 65.7% completion, 239 yds, 2 tds, 104.3! QB rating Matt Leinart: 62.3% completion, 232 yds, 2tds, 91.7 rating. Bridgewater first start: 63.3% completion, 317 yds, 98.9 QB rating So, Jamarcus Russel had a higher completion% and our pretty boy Quinn had a higher rating than your love child did in his first career start. But please, keep telling me how it's stupid to say making too much out of one start is short-sighted. I'm sure Russell would love having that conversation with you over some purple drank. Do you guys major in stupid? Where did I mention completion percentage, yards, and qb rating? What the fuck? It's called reading defenses pre-snap and reading coverages post-snap. Throwing a ton of bubble screens and only having one read doesn't mean you can read defenses and coverages. Oh, and DieHard. Fuck you, punk! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DownSouthKC Posted October 1, 2014 Report Share Posted October 1, 2014 Lol you conveniently forget that it was a Humanities class and students got extra credit for dressing up as the opposite sex. He was probably one of many dudes in that class to dress like that that day Do not care why someone chooses to cross dress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterDog Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 Oh look, another Masterdog anti Manziel post. What a surprise. Fuking idiot. I know. The truth hurts you Manziel fan boy junkies. People that suggested drafting Manziel have NO BUSINESS talking about football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalterWhite Posted October 2, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 People that suggested drafting Manziel have NO BUSINESS talking about football. Ray Farmer drafted Manziel you fuckin nimrod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawgpound101 Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 so umm...why is this even a thread?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 Do you guys major in stupid? Where did I mention completion percentage, yards, and qb rating? What the fuck? It's called reading defenses pre-snap and reading coverages post-snap. Throwing a ton of bubble screens and only having one read doesn't mean you can read defenses and coverages. Oh, and DieHard. Fuck you, punk! So your response to facts and data is to call me stupid? I hope for the sake of humanity your role in life isn't making big decisions. I imagine you are also the type to start creating names for children with a girl on the first date. Are you even a Browns fan? Do you recall Derek Anderson? He went to the pro bowl for God's sake and then in many statistical categories was the worst QB in Browns history. But, I'm sure you as a casual fan can tell after one start Teddy's ability to read defenses will make him great. Give me a break. To your other comment about not just throwing bubble screens: firstly, I'll patiently wait for you to show that all rookie QB's throw bubble screen and don't "read defenses" Bridgewater passing stats: Passes thrown behind line of scrimmage: 22/50 Passes thrown between 1-10 yards: 12/50 I'll do the basic math since I'm fairly certain you can't: That means 68% of his passes were short throws, and 44% were screens or throws that didn't require a read. But that is going to be wrong too right somehow and doesn't completely derail the dumb points you make? The funny part is I actually think he will be solid, but jumping to conclusions on a small sample is one of the most fundamentally moronic things one can possibly do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 Do you guys major in stupid? Where did I mention completion percentage, yards, and qb rating? What the fuck? It's called reading defenses pre-snap and reading coverages post-snap. Throwing a ton of bubble screens and only having one read doesn't mean you can read defenses and coverages. Oh, and DieHard. Fuck you, punk! Tough guy, lol. Go back to the other board. Oh wait, you were banned from there. No surprise with what an asshole you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 So what is this Vers guy's bag? Just a malcontent or angry Bilgewater fan? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted October 2, 2014 Report Share Posted October 2, 2014 Some of these experts had Manziel at number 1 overall. That is now borderline comical. If the draft was held today, he won't even be selected in the top 3 rounds. I did not want Manziel and I would take that action. And if you gave me odds, I would stipulate Round 1... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 If Bridgewater starts the whole season it won't even be close. This is a QB's league. Don't you need to start more than one consecutive game to qualify for "whole season"? Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 Need a mercy rule ... 42-0 in the third quarter ... Vikings tackle like pussies, I wish we played them Crowell would get 200. Z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 Need a mercy rule ... 42-0 in the third quarter ... Vikings tackle like pussies, I wish we played them Crowell would get 200. Z Nice and easy eliminator pick this week. I took GB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted October 3, 2014 Report Share Posted October 3, 2014 Need a mercy rule ... 42-0 in the third quarter ... Vikings tackle like pussies, I wish we played them Crowell would get 200. Z i sat lacy in my fantasy league for crowell. now i hear tate is getting the majority of the snaps. summa bitch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 I'm sorry for rehashing an old post, but can we please bring this back to call out the douche canoes saying bridgewater was the 2nd coming after one start? Dude threw 3 int's and had a QB rating of 2.5 yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adoug319 Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 Just like everyone was saying his game against Atlanta was ONE game... His game against Detroit was also ONE game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 Goodbye Horses HA! didn't see this before. great reference. "i'd fuck me, i'd fuck me hard.: -buffallo bill. I'm sorry for rehashing an old post, but can we please bring this back to call out the douche canoes saying bridgewater was the 2nd coming after one start? Dude threw 3 int's and had a QB rating of 2.5 yesterday. yes we can. masterdog and walterwhiter, i'm so goddamn glad you are not scouts for the cleveland browns....fucking hilarious. walter, just tell me who you're picking in a game (besides cleveland) and i'll go against you every time. you couldn't pick out a dirty pair of socks from a clean pair. keep believing ADOUG. where's the viking fan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 They seem to have crawled under the dumpster with a bottle of MD 20 20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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