The Gipper Posted November 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted November 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 Harbaugh would obviously go in there under Bo. The only other coached that Harbaugh mentored under were his Dad and Bill Callahan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted November 30, 2016 Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 Why do Michigan's mistakes eliminate poor/questionable officiating? Yes, we could have done a number of things better to win. That doesn't excuse the officiating which also played a role. That's the point. I said NOTHING about the officiating. My post referred only to Harbaugh's behavior post game, which was an embarrassment to himself, his Team, & Michigan. Regardless of circumstance, the game was lost...OVER. If he protests, there are proper ways to do so. He chose the wrong way. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted November 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted November 30, 2016 I said NOTHING about the officiating. My post referred only to Harbaugh's behavior post game, which was an embarrassment to himself, his Team, & Michigan. Regardless of circumstance, the game was lost...OVER. If he protests, there are proper ways to do so. He chose the wrong way. Mike Some say he was trying to influence the CFP committee....to put it in their minds that perhaps without these officiating errors UM would have won. Who knows if that sort of thing would work on them. Perhaps they could view it as: "this guy is an asshat and he does not deserve a chance to play in the CFP". Well, we may see. If either Wash. or Clemson loses....we will see if UM gets jumped by the Big Ten Champ or someone else. If they were to be jumped....his foolish, boorish behavior may be a reason for it. (though...I know...they could have already put down further now if they thought that way) So, would a win by PSU over Wisc...or vice versa, give the committee an excuse to have that winner be jumped over UM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 Of course I understand that Harbaugh is a Bo disciple......but Bo was a Woody disciple. So that puts Harbaugh into the Woody Hayes coaching tree. And I was only talking about his appearance, which is more Woody. .......Ignoring the colors, and the fact that Woody is all grey haired here...Harbaugh had more of the Woody look than the Bo look. I see Bo on appearances and overall behavior plus on that tree Harbaugh is on the same limb as Bo and aways off from Woodrow. But the Ohio coaching tree NCAA or NFL is second to none! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted December 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 I see Bo on appearances and overall behavior plus on that tree Harbaugh is on the same limb as Bo and aways off from Woodrow. But the Ohio coaching tree NCAA or NFL is second to none! Actually, lineage wise, he is just one generation removed. Direct from Woody to Bo to Harbaugh. That is actually pretty close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted December 1, 2016 Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 Actually, lineage wise, he is just one generation removed. Direct from Woody to Bo to Harbaugh. That is actually pretty close. Has Bo Harbaugh really ever played for Woody or had meaningful conversations and other contact with him compared with Schembechler? I'd guess no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted December 1, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 1, 2016 Has Bo Harbaugh really ever played for Woody or had meaningful conversations and other contact with him compared with Schembechler? I'd guess no. No....but apparently you are not aware of the concept of a "coaching tree". See below for Paul Brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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syd Posted December 2, 2016 Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 you forgot to add PAUL BROWN as THE OHIO STATE BUCKEYE coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted December 2, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 2, 2016 you forgot to add PAUL BROWN as THE OHIO STATE BUCKEYE coach Yes, yes he was. And though this is hard to read, I think these may just be the pro coaches in his "tree". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted December 3, 2016 Report Share Posted December 3, 2016 No....but apparently you are not aware of the concept of a "coaching tree". See below for Paul Brown. Yes it's similar to a corporate organizational chart I've seen a few of those even worked for three big corporations all #1 in their industries. It was always interesting to see some people rise through your corporation or advance through others. Coaching trees are really just networking charts for some bright young(er) prospective candidates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted December 3, 2016 Report Share Posted December 3, 2016 Getting back to the original topic.......... Did or does harbutt have Credibility? I would say NO. He has built 2 college teams and then quit. Then he built a NFL team and got fired Now he's back in college....... Does he really have any credibility? As soon as an NFL job, he wants, he's gone again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted December 3, 2016 Report Share Posted December 3, 2016 Getting back to the original topic.......... Did or does harbutt have Credibility? I would say NO. He has built 2 college teams and then quit. Then he built a NFL team and got fired Now he's back in college....... Does he really have any credibility? As soon as an NFL job, he wants, he's gone again Uuhhh... Almost none of this post is correct lol. So taking a better job is "quitting"? Remember when Meyer quit on BGSU, quit on Utah and quit on UF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted December 3, 2016 Report Share Posted December 3, 2016 Uuhhh... Almost none of this post is correct lol. So taking a better job is "quitting"? Remember when Meyer quit on BGSU, quit on Utah and quit on UF? One of my favorite coaching quotes from the late Bum Philips "There are only two types of coaches those that have been fired and those that are gonna be " Coaching by its nature is a very mercurial profession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
syd Posted December 3, 2016 Report Share Posted December 3, 2016 Uuhhh... Almost none of this post is correct lol. So taking a better job is "quitting"? Remember when Meyer quit on BGSU, quit on Utah and quit on UF? doe's it really matter,honestly I can't remember the last time ttun beat OHIO STATE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 Uuhhh... Almost none of this post is correct lol. So taking a better job is "quitting"? Remember when Meyer quit on BGSU, quit on Utah and quit on UF? Well he won Florida two national titles so they ought to be pretty grateful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted December 4, 2016 Report Share Posted December 4, 2016 I'll wait to see if Browns149 even attempts to back up his horribly inaccurate post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted December 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Getting back to the original topic.......... Did or does harbutt have Credibility? I would say NO. He has built 2 college teams and then quit. Then he built a NFL team and got fired Now he's back in college....... Does he really have any credibility? As soon as an NFL job, he wants, he's gone again I don't think Harbaugh got fired from the 49ers, did he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted December 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 I'll wait to see if Browns149 even attempts to back up his horribly inaccurate post. Better yet, grow the fuck up and don't worry about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 I don't think Harbaugh got fired from the 49ers, did he? Mutual decision to move on usually means fired. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted December 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Mutual decision to move on usually means fired. Well, perhaps, but it wasn't because of his coaching ability. That was likely a personality conflict. I mean, his volatile nature/ADD...in terms of coaching interest, could lead to his moving along from Michigan as well. We shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Mutual decision to move on usually means fired. And we see how well that's turned out since then haha For the 49era fans and those that follow the team, it's my understanding they are not happy with the ownership / front office (haven't been). A lot blame them for Harbaugh leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Well, perhaps, but it wasn't because of his coaching ability. That was likely a personality conflict. I mean, his volatile nature/ADD...in terms of coaching interest, could lead to his moving along from Michigan as well. We shall see. Harbaugh moves up in coaching? "He quit" "He's volatile" "He has coaching ADD" Meyer moves up in coaching ... *crickets* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Harbaugh moves up in coaching? "He quit" "He's volatile" "He has coaching ADD" Meyer moves up in coaching ... *crickets* It's debatable whether Michigan is a step up from the 49ers. I think I'd rather be a part of the college game but still highly debatable. For what it's worth Stanford was a good gig too. His last two changes were lateral moves in my opinion. Florida to Ohio State is probably also a lateral move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted December 5, 2016 Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Harbaugh is a more polarizing figure than meyer. Everything he does is liable to draw more criticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted December 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 5, 2016 Harbaugh moves up in coaching? "He quit" "He's volatile" "He has coaching ADD" Meyer moves up in coaching ... *crickets* I had no problem with Harbaugh moving up to the 49ers, or on to the TUN. I didn't say he quit. But, he is volatile, erratic. (It is so cataract of you not to see that). And he very well could be moving along much sooner than you think or would like him to. Just his style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browns149 Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 Uuhhh... Almost none of this post is correct lol. So taking a better job is "quitting"? Remember when Meyer quit on BGSU, quit on Utah and quit on UF? what part was incorrect? I do remember when Meyer did those things. But this thread isn't about him. It's about harbutt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 It's debatable whether Michigan is a step up from the 49ers. I think I'd rather be a part of the college game but still highly debatable. For what it's worth Stanford was a good gig too. His last two changes were lateral moves in my opinion. Florida to Ohio State is probably also a lateral move. Stanford to the 49ers is a step up 49ers to Michigan, is debatable. To Harbaugh, it was a step up, or at least a much better situation for him. So, every single move Harbaugh had before this last one was a move up. That's the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted December 6, 2016 Report Share Posted December 6, 2016 I had no problem with Harbaugh moving up to the 49ers, or on to the TUN. I didn't say he quit. But, he is volatile, erratic. (It is so cataract of you not to see that). And he very well could be moving along much sooner than you think or would like him to. Just his style. This is what you said " I mean, his volatile nature/ADD...in terms of coaching interest" So you're calling him volatile and "ADD" because he's moved up in his coaching career. I guess Meyer is as well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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