gftChris Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/10974050/Malaysia-Airlines-plane-crashes-on-Ukraine-Russia-border-live.html Nothing confirmed yet, but reports are that a malaysian passenger plane en route from Amsterdam to KL crashed on the border. Some reports suggest it was shot down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Russia will never own up to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted July 17, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Nobody will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Yeah this will be a hot potato that no one will claim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 I think Archduke Ferdinand was on that plane... WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 I don't really like to joke about 295 people being killed. It was probably the Russians or the Separatists who did it. But we will never know more then likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 pro russian ukrainian terrorists. world is going to hell in a handbag...real fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted July 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Possibly, but they've denied ownership, according to RT. Also, the missile used was one that isn't readily available to terrorist groups unless they've been getting help from the Russian military (which obviously is very possible). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Stirewalt Compares Responses of Obama & Reagan to Downed Planes BY FOX NEWS INSIDER // JUL 17 2014 // 10:40PM AS SEEN ON THE KELLY FILE Tonight on “The Kelly File,” Fox News digital politics editor Chris Stirewalt discussed President Barack Obama’s reaction to the Flight MH17 crash, compared to former President Ronald Reagan’s response back in 1983 when Korean Airlines Flight 007 was shot down by Soviet Union fighters. The Korean Airlines flight was shot down en route to South Korea by Soviet Union fighter pilots when it drifted into Soviet airspace, killing 60 Americans, including a congressman. Reagan ended his California vacation and flew back to Washington, D.C. Bolton: Flight MH17 Tragedy ‘Should Be a Wakeup Call’ About Russia In a speech four days later, Reagan said, “This was the Soviet Union against the world and the moral precepts which guide human relations among people everywhere. It was an act of barbarism born of a society which wantonly disregards individual rights and human life, and seeks constantly to expand and dominate other nations.” Stirewalt said that Reagan and his Secretary of State George Shultz immediately went on the offensive following the downing of the plane. “They turned the tide on the discussion of the Cold War and on the discussion of Reagan’s plans by making clear what kind of conduct that was,” Stirewalt said. O'Reilly: Putin Responsible for Flight MH17 Crash, 'Little Will Happen to Him' However, Obama only briefly addressed today’s tragedy, and then he headed off to two fundraisers in New York City. “His endless talking, his endless fundraising, his endless effort to control every 15 minutes of every news cycle saps him of the ability to speak with authority and resolution when he needs to,” Stirewalt said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 MSNBC bimbo. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=429_1405630406 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 I don't really like to joke about 295 people being killed. <yeah I know how sensitive you are...>> It was probably the Russians or the Separatists who did it. But we will never know more then likely. So who would possibly find any benefit in shooting it down? WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted July 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 So who would possibly find any benefit in shooting it down? WSS This is something I really don't get. Malaysia is not exactly a powerful figure in world politics, so this isn't an attack on them. So it's a 'defense of our airspace' thing? From passenger jets? OK, companies will fly round, and you'll lose any income from that (not sure if there is?). Or maybe they thought it was an attack plane and shot it down anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 they broke it down pretty well last night on some shows i watched. it was obviously an attack on an aircraft in ukrainian airspace by the pro-russian separatists. the phone calls between the separists leaders clearly thought they were targeting a military transport the size of a c130 and they fucked up and discovered it was a civilian airliner. they have audio recordings of one top separatist saying towards the end of a rebel calling him that he shocked and in horror only to have the military leader basically say 'fuck it'. they got what they deserved. he'll be up on a war tribunal charge of terrorism and war crimes in no time and will be hunted down like bin laden......by us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 So who would possibly find any benefit in shooting it down? WSS Well, I don't find it funny having innocent people blown out of the sky. Whether you think I am sensitive or not doesn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalterWhite Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 I just watched a graphic video of all the bodies from the wreckage via live leak. I wish I did't watch it but I hope those responsible pay dearly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadbrownsfan Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 I think Archduke Ferdinand was on that plane... WSS It's very well could be.. the situation can easily spiral out of control like when he died. So who would possibly find any benefit in shooting it down? WSS http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2014/07/17/zakaria-malaysia-airlines-crash-a-major-international-incident/ Zakaria on CNN made a good point. A civilian craft was likely not their intention but if a superpower(Russia) gives high tech weaponry(SAM's) capable of shooting down military aircraft to bunch of untrained\undisciplined terrorists(pro-russian ukranians) not taking the time to verify that it was civilian instead of military could easily have been the cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 It's very well could be.. the situation can easily spiral out of control like when he died. Glad you got it. http://globalpublicsquare.blogs.cnn.com/2014/07/17/zakaria-malaysia-airlines-crash-a-major-international-incident/ Zakaria on CNN made a good point. A civilian craft was likely not their intention but if a superpower(Russia) gives high tech weaponry(SAM's) capable of shooting down military aircraft to bunch of untrained\undisciplined terrorists(pro-russian ukranians) not taking the time to verify that it was civilian instead of military could easily have been the cause. Yeah well its true but that horse is out of the barn all across the world. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Looks like they haven't even secured the scene and recovered the dead. They are allowing anyone to enter the area. Pretty backward ass country if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Reports are, that the Russians have given the proRussian separatists (+ Russian special forces), one of two missiles that are capable of tracking and hitting an aircraft at 30,000 feet. Like the "Grizzly". Once locked in and fired, it can't be stopped. They've been downing some Ukraine military aircraft, and obviously thought this was one of them. It wasn't, and now, the separatists have ownership of the black box of that aircraft, and "own" the scene of the debris. News reports are saying maybe 23 Americans may have been on board. But, it's just starting. Ukraine, Russia, Israel, Iraq/Afghanistan, border crisis, spy base at Cuba. The next two years are not going to be pretty. That's the price for electing a worthless liar progressive "present" voting, etc etc president to office. It's going to get worse, I think. I hope I'm wrong.. but that's what direction we are heading in. Big serious trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Plane gets shot down in the Ukraine by terrorists, somehow Obama is at fault. That is a pretty wide chasm to jump to that conclusion. I hope the Ukrainians find the fuckers who did this and burn them to death. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Russia will coverup any involvement. I doubt this was intentional, but a major fuck up by some dumb ass with the training to operate this missile system. From what I understand, it takes several people to operate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadbrownsfan Posted July 18, 2014 Report Share Posted July 18, 2014 Russia will coverup any involvement. I doubt this was intentional, but a major fuck up by some dumb ass with the training to operate this missile system. From what I understand, it takes several people to operate it. That is what it sounds like they are doing, as quickly as they can. http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/18/world/europe/ukraine-malaysia-airlines-crash/index.html "(CNN) -- A spokesman for 21 international monitors who on Friday visited the Malaysia Airlines crash site in eastern Ukraine said the team wasn't "given the access that we expected." Michael Bociurkiw, spokesman for the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe team, told CNN's Christiane Amanpour the group was "only allowed access to about a 200-meter strip" for about 75 minutes at the site, which he said was guarded by armed men in uniform. "One of our top priorities was to find out what happened to the black boxes. No one was there to answer those questions," he said." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalterWhite Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 Russia is a piece of shit broken down machine. Someone needs to put Putin's ass in his place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 Apparently up to 100 of world's top aids researchers and activists were aboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalterWhite Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 A lot of conspiracy theorist are now saying the cure for aids could have been on that plane. The top 100 scientist and researchers go down. Kind of odd? Flight 370 was carrying 20 people from Texas who had patented micro processors for advanced weaponary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 Bull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taco918 Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 A lot of conspiracy theorist are now saying the cure for aids could have been on that plane. The top 100 scientist and researchers go down. Kind of odd? Flight 370 was carrying 20 people from Texas who had patented micro processors for advanced weaponary. I'm sure we'd have more than one sample in multiple locations if that were the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 http://mashable.com/2014/07/17/malaysia-airlines-ukraine-russia-rebel/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 http://mashable.com/2014/07/17/malaysia-airlines-ukraine-russia-rebel/ That commander is on borrowed time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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