The Gipper Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 ROGER GOODELL CAN SEE NFL TEAM IN LONDON WITHIN FIVE OR 10 YEARS The NFL’s increasing success with regular-season games played in London has convinced the league that a franchise based there could become a reality soon. And during an interview with NFL Network, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell defined soon as within five or 10 years. “We couldn’t be happier with what we’re seeing,” Goodell said. “We actually couldn’t be more surprised by the tremendous demand for NFL football in London, in the UK in general, and frankly in Europe. So it’s not something that I think is 15 or 20 years away. It could be five or 10 years away.” Since 1986, when the NFL began staging preseason games overseas, the league has become more aggressive with promoting its brand globally. And since it began playing regular-season games in London in 2007, the league has gone from playing one, to two, to now, this year, three regular-season contests there. “The fans want to see more NFL football, and they want to see the real thing,” Goodell said. “They don’t want to see the ‘friendlies’ as they call them over there, which is preseason games. So we changed our strategy eight years ago and said, ‘Let’s play regular season games.’ And our clubs have responded very favorably. They’ve enjoyed the experience. So we’re anxious to do more of it. I see us continuing to play more games there, to focus on our television coverage there and expanding that, our other business efforts including licensing and sponsorship.” Goodell did not say whether the NFL team that would be based in London would be relocated from an existing league city or an expansion club. Sorry, what the fuck is with this London bullshit. Goodell is, to my mind, just deluding himself if he thinks that fans in this country....or fans in the UK are clamoring for a team to be placed in London. Is the money really going to be all that much more to put a team there than it would be to put a team in LA or San Antonio? I think not. I mean, WTF, he bases his whole reason on wanting to put a team in London because "people enjoyed the experience" I enjoy going to various places...but by no means would I try to make my living there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Not to mention the cost of flying back and forth 8 times per year for the London team. I say a US city deserves it more, hell, even LA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 ROGER GOODELL CAN SEE NFL TEAM IN LONDON WITHIN FIVE OR 10 YEARS Sorry, what the fuck is with this London bullshit. Goodell is, to my mind, just deluding himself if he thinks that fans in this country....or fans in the UK are clamoring for a team to be placed in London. Is the money really going to be all that much more to put a team there than it would be to put a team in LA or San Antonio? I think not. I mean, WTF, he bases his whole reason on wanting to put a team in London because "people enjoyed the experience" I enjoy going to various places...but by no means would I try to make my living there. Does Goodell even realize fans of current teams aren't exactly thrilled when their respective teams get drafted for that London game? Someone is losing a home game every year. If the Browns get tabbed, you can bet I'm going to ask for a one game refund on my season tickets. If you offer me row 20 on the 50 at Wembley, I might be interested, but fat chance of that happening. Not to mention the cost of flying back and forth 8 times per year for the London team. I say a US city deserves it more, hell, even LA. An NFL team in London would suck, no doubt about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted July 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Good move making this its own thread. Sorry, but unless they want to expand the league to 36 teams.....by putting a team in LA, SA, London...and maybe what? Mexico? But...you know what they first move they may want to make to make the NFL "International"? Move the Bills to Toronto. It would not surprise me at all if Goodell is in favor of that....even urging it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brnfan16 Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Good move making this its own thread. Sorry, but unless they want to expand the league to 36 teams.....by putting a team in LA, SA, London...and maybe what? Mexico? But...you know what they first move they may want to make to make the NFL "International"? Move the Bills to Toronto. It would not surprise me at all if Goodell is in favor of that....even urging it. Where does this total Bullshit end with NFL teams outside America? Really??? The just unbelieveable logistics of it all would be mind boggling! Players living there, unless they are from the UK would not see home much. Contracts would have to be redone for this kind life and travel. I don't see this happening for years if ever at all. I guess England would have the Union Jack flag on the back of their helmets or being a US game would they wear our flag? So many questions on this even being practical is endless. Keep Americas game in America period... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brnfan16 Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 I dont have an issue with putting a team in London. I get it, they want to go global much like the way soccer owns the world. There is alot more money to be gained globally. Now putting a Super Bowl in London i would be opposed. If a team was put in London under NFL guidelines, if it had the best record it would get "Home Country" advantage (does that sound weird or what?). With ths best record the (AFC or NFC) league championship game would go there too. So to think the SB would go there, why not? everything else is screwed up even thinking to ever go this route. Remember after England whos next, Roger please take your meds and don"t ever do this to our game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadbrownsfan Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 If a team was put in London under NFL guidelines, if it had the best record it would get "Home Country" advantage (does that sound weird or what?). With ths best record the (AFC or NFC) league championship game would go there too. So to think the SB would go there, why not? everything else is screwed up even thinking to ever go this route. Remember after England whos next, Roger please take your meds and don"t ever do this to our game... After England, I could see China being a target, large population, large markets.. since soccer is less rooted in the national psyche as in most of EU I could see it catching on better in China than Europe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 Does Goodell even realize fans of current teams aren't exactly thrilled when their respective teams get drafted for that London game? Someone is losing a home game every year. If the Browns get tabbed, you can bet I'm going to ask for a one game refund on my season tickets. If you offer me row 20 on the 50 at Wembley, I might be interested, but fat chance of that happening. An NFL team in London would suck, no doubt about it. I don't think you would have to ask for a refund. I would be shocked if season ticket holders are charged for that game. At any rate, a team in London is a joke. I understand the city and Brits could probably support the team, but the logistics are simply too great. You are talking a 8 hour flight out of Atlanta....say 7 out of NY or Boston. Teams would really need to go over 3-4 days early, not to mention the London team when they come over here. It's might not be a stupid idea, but at minimum not very practical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibleedbrown Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 I would think if the NFL was going to international they would baby step it at first. Maybe Canada? Sure, they have their own football league, but l'm sure a city like Toronto would jump at the chance to have an NFL team. I thought l heard football (not futbol) was growing in popularity in Mexico, too. Mexico City? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted July 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 I dont have an issue with putting a team in London. I get it, they want to go global much like the way soccer owns the world. There is alot more money to be gained globally. Now putting a Super Bowl in London i would be opposed. Why does it have to be about all the money you can get. Its not like they are the Little sisters of the poor. What about the quality of the products.....and what about patriotism. What about providing for an economy here in cities that could benefit from Expansion of the NFL. If they want more money, then they will have to divide the pie between more players, more owners. Like I said, not unless they agree to expand to 36 teams. If they just wanted to move teams to bigger markets, then there would be a wholesale shift of teams. Move the Bills #52 US Market to Toronto. Move the Saints #51 market to Mexico. Move the Jags #48 market to London. Move Cincinnati #35 Market to Paris. Move the Chiefs #31 market to Japan. Move the Titans #29 market to what? South Korea, China Fuck off with all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted July 21, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 I don't think you would have to ask for a refund. I would be shocked if season ticket holders are charged for that game. At any rate, a team in London is a joke. I understand the city and Brits could probably support the team, but the logistics are simply too great. You are talking a 8 hour flight out of Atlanta....say 7 out of NY or Boston. Teams would really need to go over 3-4 days early, not to mention the London team when they come over here. It's might not be a stupid idea, but at minimum not very practical. Maybe the NFL needs to be in the forefront of bringing back the Supersonic Transport Jets. They could have a tie in there with the team in NYC. At 1350 MPH and a 2-3 hour flight, then it would be more practical to have a team in London. Or, how about developing the Vacuum Train that could go 3000 Mph or more? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transatlantic_tunnel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 If you like to see the NFL become soccer, you are not a football fan. The NFL belongs in the States, and only the States. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 They are huge Cowboy fans. Dallas played the Oilers years ago in Mexico during preseason and sold 108,000 tickets. hmmmm. wonder why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted July 21, 2014 Report Share Posted July 21, 2014 no. you were just stating the obvious considering half of mexico is going to end up in dallas anyway........... "send in the national guard!" lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comeonman Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 no. you were just stating the obvious considering half of mexico is going to end up in dallas anyway........... "send in the national guard!" lol. I'm going to start giving them bus tickets to NY just for you Mik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcam222 Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 I dont have an issue with putting a team in London. I get it, they want to go global much like the way soccer owns the world. There is alot more money to be gained globally. Now putting a Super Bowl in London i would be opposed. Their desire to go global is all about additional revenue generation. I don't see how relocating a current team to London will result in a significant increase in revenue. Certainly not an increase worth all the debate. If the NFL truly wants to become a global game they need to go all in. They need to form a full division in Europe with a minimum of 6 teams. Playing each other gives them 10 games and then the remaining 6 split between the US and Europe. Although much like prior expansion teams the talent would be watered down over time it would improve. This would generate significant revenue and make the league more global. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 It seems like some on here are trying to make giant issues out of relatively minor ones. As much as some want to pound their chest and shout "'Murica" I think it makes business sense to get your product out there. Especially if the demand is high, which it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 I don't think you would have to ask for a refund. I would be shocked if season ticket holders are charged for that game. At any rate, a team in London is a joke. I understand the city and Brits could probably support the team, but the logistics are simply too great. You are talking a 8 hour flight out of Atlanta....say 7 out of NY or Boston. Teams would really need to go over 3-4 days early, not to mention the London team when they come over here. It's might not be a stupid idea, but at minimum not very practical. Add 4 hours to that 'Peen, from the West Coast- that's Nucking Futz. A London team would be going across 8, maybe 9 Time Zones on the way back- talk about jet lag. I can hear the howling from the NFLPA already. I wouldnt move an existing team. There would have to be expansion. I agree, but you know there is only one thing rich guys want. Just a little more money. They notice when Forbes posts the top wealthiest teams in the world and the top 3 are soccer teams. Coca-Cola, McDonalds, ect they are everywhere. You can go to the smallest, poorest town in Africa and find them. Smart business men are always a step ahead. It is going to happen, just a matter of time. I think it would be pretty cool to see the world embrace what i think is the best game in the world. It's never going to happen in anyone that's currently alive lifetimes if you think American Football is going to overtake soccer as the #1 worldwide sport. For exactly the reason you mentioned. You think teams like Real Madrid and Manchester United are going to let the NFL invade their turf? Politics, pal. Their desire to go global is all about additional revenue generation. I don't see how relocating a current team to London will result in a significant increase in revenue. Certainly not an increase worth all the debate. If the NFL truly wants to become a global game they need to go all in. They need to form a full division in Europe with a minimum of 6 teams. Playing each other gives them 10 games and then the remaining 6 split between the US and Europe. Although much like prior expansion teams the talent would be watered down over time it would improve. This would generate significant revenue and make the league more global. That's the only scenario that would make 1\2 sense. The European League didn't last, if you're listening Roger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 I'm going to start giving them bus tickets to NY just for you Mik 'they' were here before i was. why don't we just claim mexico as an incorporated territory of the US? that way the americans who want to move to cabo san lucas can get in their uhaul and go and those from tijuana who want to move to n. platte, NE can do so w/o passports etc. take over their gov't and military, more jobs for both and no more corruption. HA! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 It seems like some on here are trying to make giant issues out of relatively minor ones. As much as some want to pound their chest and shout "'Murica" I think it makes business sense to get your product out there. Especially if the demand is high, which it is You're a fucking idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted July 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Their desire to go global is all about additional revenue generation. I don't see how relocating a current team to London will result in a significant increase in revenue. Certainly not an increase worth all the debate. If the NFL truly wants to become a global game they need to go all in. They need to form a full division in Europe with a minimum of 6 teams. Playing each other gives them 10 games and then the remaining 6 split between the US and Europe. Although much like prior expansion teams the talent would be watered down over time it would improve. This would generate significant revenue and make the league more global. The NFL Europe failed some years back. Didn't they figure it out? Or, maybe they are thinking "well, the NASL failed" and now soccer has come back with the MSL, maybe our failure there once can be turned around with a new league. But yea, it would have to be a whole new league. Sorry, the greed is palpable in this notion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted July 22, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 It seems like some on here are trying to make giant issues out of relatively minor ones. As much as some want to pound their chest and shout "'Murica" I think it makes business sense to get your product out there. Especially if the demand is high, which it is Then put your product in LA, San Antonio, Portland, Salt Lake. I guarandamntee you that the demand for NFL football is higher in those locations than it is in London, Manchester and Paris. It is a damn sight higher in Birmingham Alabama than it is in Birmingham England. ...and would make the NFL more money probably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comeonman Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 'they' were here before i was. why don't we just claim mexico as an incorporated territory of the US? that way the americans who want to move to cabo san lucas can get in their uhaul and go and those from tijuana who want to move to n. platte, NE can do so w/o passports etc. take over their gov't and military, more jobs for both and no more corruption. HA! Lol that would be the day. I like how you say no more corruption, like the US government isn't. It's just done differently over here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taco918 Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 You're a fucking idiot. So taking emotion out of the equation and looking at a business from a business perspective makes him an idiot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Lol that would be the day. I like how you say no more corruption, like the US government isn't. It's just done differently over here that's why i wrote HA! after that line. i ain't that dubm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 So taking emotion out of the equation and looking at a business from a business perspective makes him an idiot? Don't you know that older member on this forum know everything about life and the younger guys can't possibly understand how the world works? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 how does it makes sense biz wise? someone explain that to me. a team in london makes sense. GTFO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 Makes absolutely no sense. But the soccer boys think it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comeonman Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 It would have to be much more lucrative in London than in LA for it make sense logistically, and I just don't see it. But what do I know, I'm not Roger get paid millions to do nothing Goodell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taco918 Posted July 22, 2014 Report Share Posted July 22, 2014 It's bringing your product into a new market. A new market brings the potential for a new revenue streams aka new/more fans, merchandise, as well as endorsement and tv deals to name a few. That's more money that goes into the owners pockets. That is the basic business perspective you guys seem to be struggling with. It seems the NFL is sufficiently impressed with their previous forays in London the past few years that they believe it has enough of a fanbase to support a team, as well as become profitable to the league. Now if you want to debate if the hosting of a few games a year is enough of an impetus to put a franchise there or if the success of those previous games equated more to a spectacle bore out of curiosity instead of actually fandom, go right ahead. The basic business logic involved however, can't be disputed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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