DieHardBrownsFan Posted October 13, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 Time to pack up and head to the Yukon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted October 13, 2014 Report Share Posted October 13, 2014 Time to pack up and head to the Yukon. Oh no... Please... Don't go....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Eater Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 The cdc is spreading lies about Ebola. 1. It is only spread through direct contact. Obviously it is spread by more than direct contact or missionary doctors and the Dallas nurse would not have caught it. 2. You can only spread Ebola after you show symptoms. Doubtful. If you have the virus and it's replicating in your body then why wouldn't you be able to spread it? 3. Only pharmaceutical drugs can help you. Wrong. Vitamin d, zinc, and selenium help bolster your immune system. Most Americans are deficient in at least one. Give yourself the best chance you can. 4. This is the same strain that infected a few dozen people in 1976. Probably not. Clearly is is more easily spread, since some 8000 people have it. Maybe the strain in 1976 was only spread by direct contact? Well this is worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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The Cysko Kid Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 That's some stupid shit woody. We're talking about a highly virulent disease with a 60-90% fatality rate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 When you have to wear this I'm pretty sure tinfoil hat memes are not appropriate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Yes, it is some really stupid shit. I'm still hoping Vaportrail may answer my questions.... or at least his opinions about the whole ebola stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaporTrail Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Question for Vaportrail - If the Ebola virus continues to thrive in Liberia, for example, is it a legit worry that it will morph into an airborne virus? Well, another one - take any sweaty lockerroom at some ymca or something.... could the ebola virus be in that sweaty air? On a plane with recycled air and a patient with ebola starting to cough a lot? well, I haven't ask any stupid questions for a while......so..... I can't really give an authoritative answer on these questions (if you asked me about renal function, cardiovascular function, or neuropathies, I'd be your guy). Here's a thread by some experts in the field: http://www.reddit.com/r/science/comments/2hy3r9/science_ama_series_ask_your_questions_about_ebola/ There's a few good responses that touch on some of your questions. /edit here's a thread where they're talking about why it's not spread like influenza https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/2d3p7d/why_is_ebola_not_as_contagious_as_say_influenza/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted October 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 WHO: 10,000 new Ebola cases per week could be seen 8 minutes ago . View gallery . GENEVA (AP) — A World Health Organization official says there could be up to 10,000 new cases of Ebola per week within two months. WHO assistant director-general Dr. Bruce Aylward says if the response to the Ebola crisis isn't stepped up within 60 days, "a lot more people will die" and there will be a huge need on the ground to deal with the spiraling numbers of cases. He said WHO estimated there could up to 10,000 cases per week in two months. Aylward said for the last four weeks, there have been about 1,000 new cases per week, though that figure includes suspected, confirmed and probable cases. He said WHO is aiming to have 70 percent of cases isolated within two months to reverse the outbreak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Eater Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 The cdc has admitted in an offhand way that the disease is spread by more than direct contact. Catching the disease by touching your protective gear that has touched the fluids of an infected person is indirect contact. Clearly the virus stays active outside of the human body for longer than a few seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Eater Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 That's not so different than the infected person sneezing in the bathroom of an airplane and the next person coming into contact with it is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 That's some stupid shit woody. We're talking about a highly virulent disease with a 60-90% fatality rate The post isn't in response to its fatality rate... ... It's in response to all of the crack pot theories regarding Obama, Ebola, guns, ISIS, Mexicans, etc etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Eater Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Does anyone know if the virus can stay active for substantial periods of time outside of the body in temperate climates during winter? In other words will a bad winter help keep the virus from spreading into the Midwest? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Eater Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 The post isn't in response to its fatality rate... ... It's in response to all of the crack pot theories regarding Obama, Ebola, guns, ISIS, Mexicans, etc etc etc. . Seriously dude stop being a Retard. If this thing gets out of hand no one is going to give a shit about political alliances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Does anyone know if the virus can stay active for substantial periods of time outside of the body in temperate climates during winter? In other words will a bad winter help keep the virus from spreading into the Midwest? Traditionally harsh winter conditions damp down viral activities except that people are often in closer proximity being indoors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 It's not crackpot to believe Africans are going to head for a place they believe they can get better medical conditions by any means necessary carrying the virus with them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dste Ace Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Which prompts me to ask, am I being over-the-top reactionary in thinking that it's time to ban flights from Liberia, Nigeria, etc. from landing in the U.S. until they start to get a handle on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 . Seriously dude stop being a Retard. If this thing gets out of hand no one is going to give a shit about political alliances. Riiight, no one is trying to blow this up for political gain. Every article is truth and we're in "big, serious trouble." You can build your doomsday bunker, I'm going to go about my life. We'll see who ends up better off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted October 14, 2014 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 I'm building one of these in the Yukon: https://homes.yahoo.com/blogs/spaces/dig-in-for-apocalypse-in-a-practically-invisible--bunker-moderne--home-001618852.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Eater Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Riiight, no one is trying to blow this up for political gain. Every article is truth and we're in "big, serious trouble." You can build your doomsday bunker, I'm going to go about my life. We'll see who ends up better off. Honesty I hope you are right. No one wants to see an Ebola pandemic. But until officials are honest with the public about the real danger we are all in, the risk of a pandemic is greatly increased because people will not be as careful as they should be. It may already be too late. And yes, flights from west Africa should be banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Eater Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Traditionally harsh winter conditions damp down viral activities except that people are often in closer proximity being indoors. So if you isolate yourself and family they should be able to avoid infection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dste Ace Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 The WHO announced that 70% of people who contract Ebola can expect to die. That's pretty fucking grim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pumpkin Eater Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Certainly. Scary. The fact that the patients nurse caught it by not properly removing safety gear is scary. Seems like it is easier spread than they are letting on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Several hours? Several days if not dried up? that isn't good. The who says soon, 10k new cases of ebola a day may soon be seen.... 4500 have died so far.... it is not funny to anybody with any sense. ********************************************************** http://www.cdc.gov/vhf/ebola/transmission/qas.html How long does Ebola live outside the body? Ebola is killed with hospital-grade disinfectants (such as household bleach). Ebola on dried on surfaces such as doorknobs and countertops can survive for several hours; however, virus in body fluids (such as blood) can survive up to several days at room temperature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Look the story is going to be exaggerated by the media no matter how serious it is. That doesn't mean it's a catastrophe nor a complete non concern. Yes the opposition will take advantage of any perceived failure on the part of the administration should it become worse then it is. Rightfully so to an extent. If the administration has absolutely no effect one way or the other then... Well you understand. WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 The WHO announced that 70% of people who contract Ebola can expect to die. That's pretty fucking grim. What percentage of those infected are in Africa with no access to adequate modern health care? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Honesty I hope you are right. No one wants to see an Ebola pandemic. But until officials are honest with the public about the real danger we are all in, the risk of a pandemic is greatly increased because people will not be as careful as they should be. It may already be too late. And yes, flights from west Africa should be banned. And if people choose to constantly believe the man is lying to them, there is nothing that can change that. Look at climate change and the scientific backing there. It means nothing to people that already know what answer they want to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mohican Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 Which prompts me to ask, am I being over-the-top reactionary in thinking that it's time to ban flights from Liberia, Nigeria, etc. from landing in the U.S. until they start to get a handle on this? No - that would make sense. Other nations are doing this, including African nations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dste Ace Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 What percentage of those infected are in Africa with no access to adequate modern health care? No idea. I would guess that it is vital to diagnose it and begin treatment as soon as symptoms begin to appear. But the guy in Dallas showed up at the hospital and was sent home. Does your average hospital have the capability to institute extreme quarantine measures if a case shows up? Apparently, the nurse who has contracted it in Dallas was wearing the hazmat suit but removed it improperly. When I say extreme quarantine measures I mean CDC level measures. I honestly question whether your average hospital can implement the extreme measures required to prevent the spread of this disease. I don't consider myself a "run for the hills, save yourselves" kind of person but I'm hearing health officials say that Ebola is not nearly as contagious as the flu. What they fail to mention is that the flu doesn't kill 70% of the people who get it. While I'm not heading for the survival bunker--yet --I do believe there is cause for concern. I honestly don't think banning flights from Liberia, East Africa, et al is an unreasonable action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted October 14, 2014 Report Share Posted October 14, 2014 My point was that they said 70% of the people that get it will die. This is across the globe I'm guessing. I'd assume the fatlity rate in Africa will be higher than the US. Not that it isn't extremely dangerous in both cases. I think the important thing to note here us that we aren't Africa... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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