Mudfly Posted March 22, 2015 Report Share Posted March 22, 2015 Thought it would be fun to revive the http://www.first-pick.com/ thread now that we are past the combine and Free Agency(mostly)..... Players are definitely climbing & dropping...and coming off the board very differently......and there is a huge sea of 2nd tier players that could anywhere from pick 20 to pick 50.... Here is a straight draft(no trades) I just did that I think went pretty well(Id take it)....next, gonna try a couple trade backs and see where that draft goes...... Your score is: 6654 (GRADE: A) Your Picks: Round 1 Pick 12: Danny Shelton, DT, Washington (A) Round 1 Pick 19: Shaq Thompson, OLB/ILB, Washington (B-) Round 2 Pick 11: Preston Smith, DE, Mississippi State (A) Round 3 Pick 13: Ali Marpet, OG, Hobart & William Smith (A) Round 4 Pick 12: B.J. Finney, C, Kansas State (A) Round 4 Pick 16: Justin Hardy, WR, East Carolina (A) Round 5 Pick 11: Nick O'Leary, TE, Florida State (A-) Round 6 Pick 13: Tyler Varga, FB, Yale (A) Round 6 Pick 26: Correy Robinson, OT, South Carolina (B-) Round 7 Pick 12: Justin Manton, K, Louisiana-Monroe (A) .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 Your score is: 6696 (GRADE: A)Your Picks:Round 1 Pick 12: Amari Cooper, WR, Alabama (A)Round 1 Pick 19: Malcom Brown, DT, Texas (A)Round 2 Pick 11: Shaq Thompson, OLB/ILB, Washington (A-)Round 3 Pick 13: Denzel Perryman, ILB/OLB, Miami (Fla.) (Round 4 Pick 12: David Cobb, RB, Minnesota (A)Round 4 Pick 16: B.J. Finney, C, Kansas State (A)Round 5 Pick 11: Justin Hardy, WR, East Carolina (A)Round 6 Pick 13: Charles Gaines, CB, Louisville (A)Round 6 Pick 26: Justin Manton, K, Louisiana-Monroe (A)Round 7 Pick 12: Matt Jones, RB, Florida (B-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 I traded with Tennessee, gave them 12 & 19 plus next years first round pick. In return I got 2 and 33 this year. With up to four compensatory picks coming next year, we can use our regular picks to move back up in 2016. Your score is: 4959 (GRADE: B+) Your Picks: Round 1 Pick 2 (TENN): Marcus Mariota, QB, Oregon (A) Round 2 Pick 1 (TENN): Breshad Perriman, WR, UCF (A-) Round 2 Pick 11: Michael Bennett, DT, Ohio State (B - Round 3 Pick 13: Henry Anderson, DE, Stanford (C-) Round 4 Pick 12: Rob Havenstein, OT, Wisconsin (A-) Round 4 Pick 16: Markus Golden, OLB/ILB, Missouri ( C) Round 5 Pick 11: B.J. Finney, C, Kansas State (A) Round 6 Pick 13: Wes Saxton, TE, South Alabama ( C) Round 6 Pick 26: Zach Zenner, FB/RB, South Dakota State (C+) Round 7 Pick 12: Austin Hill, WR, Arizona (B+) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 LB-you had a shot at Williams and took another QB?? You are definitely a Brown. Here-fixed it for ya. Your score is: 5965 (GRADE: A-)Your Picks:Round 1 Pick 2 (TENN): Leonard Williams, DT/DE, Southern California (A)Round 2 Pick 1 (TENN): Dorial Green-Beckham, WR, Oklahoma (A)Round 2 Pick 11: Eli Harold, OLB, Virginia (A-)Round 3 Pick 13: Denzel Perryman, ILB/OLB, Miami (Fla.) (Round 4 Pick 12: Ronald Darby, CB, Florida State (A)Round 4 Pick 16: David Cobb, RB, Minnesota (A)Round 5 Pick 11: Andy Gallik, C, Boston College (A)Round 6 Pick 13: Corey Robinson, OT, South Carolina ©Round 6 Pick 26: Justin Manton, K, Louisiana-Monroe (A)Round 7 Pick 12: Josh Harper, WR, Fresno State (A) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 LB-you had a shot at Williams and took another QB?? You are definitely a Brown. I don't like Williams We need a QB, it's gone on long enough! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 Ain't shit changed for my mock. Other then watching Nate Orchard handle his run game responsibilities better in the Senior Bowl, I have every confidence taking him higher. Once I got Shelton, I accepted a trade down from Zona'. I don't mind trading down to an NFC team. Grabbed Orchard and from there it was a good blend of BPA meeting need. I meant to click on Bryce Petty and grabbed Grayson instead, don't ask me how... I wanted Petty though, my B. Devin gives us speed on the outside. I noticed Heurman has shot up draft boards to a 3rd round prospect. Also, Max Valles has gone from fringe 6th-UDFA to as high as 4th-5th round in some cases. You're welcome, NFL. Rowe and Gunter are my safety candidates. Leonard is gone, also want another just in case someone gets hurt... Finney and O'Leary are good offensive compliments in the 4th & 5th, figured I'd give Varga a shot and Barnes is a pure developmental prospect. Round 1 Pick 12: Danny Shelton, DT, Washington (A)Round 1 Pick 24 (ARI): Nate Orchard, OLB/DE, Utah (C+)Round 2 Pick 11: Ali Marpet, OG, Hobart & William Smith (B-)Round 2 Pick 23 (ARI): Devin Smith, WR, Ohio State (A-)Round 3 Pick 13: Garrett Grayson, QB, Colorado State (B-)Round 4 Pick 12: Eric Rowe, CB/FS, Utah ( Round 4 Pick 16: B.J. Finney, C, Kansas State (A)Round 5 Pick 11: Nick O'Leary, TE, Florida State (A-)Round 6 Pick 13: Ladarius Gunter, CB, Miami (Fla.) ( Round 6 Pick 26: Tyler Varga, FB, Yale (A)Round 7 Pick 12: Deion Barnes, DE, Penn State (C+) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiott Posted March 23, 2015 Report Share Posted March 23, 2015 12th Pick : Malcom Brown, DT Texas 19th Pick : Eli Harold, OLB Virginia 43rd Pick : Jake Fisher, OT Oregon 77th Pick : Paul Dawson, ILB TCU 108th Pick : Nick O'Leary, TE Florida State 112th Pick : BJ Finney, C Kansas State 139th Pick : Dezmin Lewis, WR Central Arkansas 173rd Pick : Adrian Amos, S Penn State 190th Pick : Bryan Bennett, QB Southern Louisiana 207th Pick : Jared Roberts, K Colorado State Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opal312 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 #12 Danny Shelton, DT WASH. #19 Andrus Peat, OT STANFORD #43 Jaelen Strong, WR AZ ST #77 Garrett Grayson, QB COLORADO #108 Trey Flowers, DE ARK #112 Tyler Kroft, TE, RUTGERS #139 Max Garcia, OC FLORIDA #173 Taiwan Jones, ILB MICH ST #186 Evan Spencer, WR OSU #204 Jalston Fowler FB ALABAMA I will shop for a kicker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 those mocks are great but highly unlikely. shelton is top ten as well as peat. AG, what's your fascination with beckham? sure he's got talent out the wazoo but we already have a WR who get's in trouble that won't play a game this year. why add another? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 those mocks are great but highly unlikely. shelton is top ten as well as peat. AG, what's your fascination with beckham? sure he's got talent out the wazoo but we already have a WR who get's in trouble that won't play a game this year. why add another? G-B has more potential to turn into another Andre Johnson/Megatron than anyone out there. Speed, size, hands, strength and moves. I'd risk it. Keep track of him wherever he goes and I bet what I say occurs within the first two years if not the first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Opal312 Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Greene Beckham might just be the best wide receiver in this draft. At least by #12 or #19. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 G-B has more potential to turn into another Andre Johnson/Megatron than anyone out there. Speed, size, hands, strength and moves. I'd risk it. Keep track of him wherever he goes and I bet what I say occurs within the first two years if not the first. Two very different receivers to have the potential to recreate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyceRolls Posted March 24, 2015 Report Share Posted March 24, 2015 Your score is: 6860 (GRADE: A-)Your Picks:Round 1 Pick 15 (S.F.): Marcus Mariota, QB, Oregon (A)Round 1 Pick 25 (CAR): Arik Armstead, DT/DE, Oregon ( B+ )Round 2 Pick 11: Maxx Williams, TE, Minnesota (B+)Round 2 Pick 14 (S.F.): Ali Marpet, OG, Hobart & William Smith (B-)Round 2 Pick 25 (CAR): Denzel Perryman, ILB/OLB, Miami (Fla.) (C+)Round 3 Pick 13: Devin Smith, WR, Ohio State (A)Round 4 Pick 12: Lorenzo Mauldin, OLB/DE, Louisville (B+)Round 4 Pick 16: B.J. Finney, C, Kansas State (A)Round 5 Pick 11: James Sample, SS, Louisville (B+)Round 6 Pick 13: Jake Ryan, OLB/ILB, Michigan (B-)Round 6 Pick 26: Ty Montgomery, WR, Stanford (A-)Round 7 Pick 12: Justin Manton, K, Louisiana-Monroe (A) Didn't expect to spend as many high picks on offense, but when Mariota was STILL there after trading down with SF, I couldn't resist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren15 Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 Your score is: 6886 (GRADE: A-) Your Picks:Round 1 Pick 12: Kevin White, WR, West Virginia (A)Round 2 Pick 3 (OAK): A.J. Cann, OG, South Carolina (A-)Round 2 Pick 11: Maxx Williams, TE, Minnesota (B+)Round 2 Pick 28 (DAL): Michael Bennett, DT, Ohio State (A-)Round 3 Pick 4 (OAK): Mario Edwards, DE, Florida State (A-)Round 3 Pick 5 (WASH): Cedric Ogbuehi, OT, Texas A&M (B-)Round 4 Pick 12: Bryce Petty, QB, Baylor (A-)Round 4 Pick 28 (DAL): B.J. Finney, C, Kansas State (A)Round 5 Pick 11: Ramik Wilson, ILB, Georgia (Round 5 Pick 12 (N.O.): Markus Golden, OLB/ILB, Missouri ( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 Compensatory picks are now included in FirstPick sim... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 New high for me... fell into some BPAs early and late that filled needs. Struggled with the Collins pick, but with his size and ferocious run support I think he can pull off a hybrid LB role in Pet's scheme. At least Pet's scheme as laid out in Mud's analysis. Fills this role while he studies under Whitner to be his eventual replacement. Then I went and got the last really good CB prospect who somehow fell into Day 3... and only cost me a 6th. Only do over I'd like is Jones in Rnd 6. Probably is there in the 7th and since I think he's a FB candidate, I nearly duplicated him by picking Neighors in the 7th. Your score is: 7210 (GRADE: A-) Your Picks: Round 1 Pick 12: Marcus Mariota, QB, Oregon (A) Round 1 Pick 19: Malcom Brown, DT, Texas (A) Round 2 Pick 11: Landon Collins, SS, Alabama (A) Round 3 Pick 13: Ali Marpet, OG, Hobart & William Smith (A) Round 4 Pick 7 (CHI): Ronald Darby, CB, Florida State (A) Round 4 Pick 16: Justin Hardy, WR, East Carolina (A) Round 5 Pick 11: Bryce Hager, ILB, Baylor (B+) Round 6 Pick 26: Matt Jones, RB, Florida (A) Round 7 Pick 12: Conner Neighbors, FB, LSU (C-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren15 Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 New high for me... fell into some BPAs early and late that filled needs. Struggled with the Collins pick, but with his size and ferocious run support I think he can pull off a hybrid LB role in Pet's scheme. At least Pet's scheme as laid out in Mud's analysis. Fills this role while he studies under Whitner to be his eventual replacement. Then I went and got the last really good CB prospect who somehow fell into Day 3... and only cost me a 6th. Only do over I'd like is Jones in Rnd 6. Probably is there in the 7th and since I think he's a FB candidate, I nearly duplicated him by picking Neighors in the 7th. Your score is: 7210 (GRADE: A-) Your Picks: Round 1 Pick 12: Marcus Mariota, QB, Oregon (A) Round 1 Pick 19: Malcom Brown, DT, Texas (A) Round 2 Pick 11: Landon Collins, SS, Alabama (A) Round 3 Pick 13: Ali Marpet, OG, Hobart & William Smith (A) Round 4 Pick 7 (CHI): Ronald Darby, CB, Florida State (A) Round 4 Pick 16: Justin Hardy, WR, East Carolina (A) Round 5 Pick 11: Bryce Hager, ILB, Baylor (B+) Round 6 Pick 26: Matt Jones, RB, Florida (A) Round 7 Pick 12: Conner Neighbors, FB, LSU (C-) I would be happy if that draft translated to the real one ...only thing missing is a TE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 I would be happy if that draft translated to the real one ...only thing missing is a TE As different as it looks from any draft I would have planned, I like it as well... And even if MM did not pan out, I'd still be OK with the draft as a whole and reload for another QB try next year, if need be. Hagar and my other Day 3 ILB, Heeney, have really taken the pressure off reaching for an ILB early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 Score 7228 A- No Trades--- 12. DT Shelton A, 19. OT Peat A- 43.OLB Harold A-, 77. OG A. Marpet A,111. TE J. James B+,115. WR J. Hardy A,147. DE/OLB Cedric Reed A,188. FB T. Varga A, 201. K- J. Manton A, 229. ILB T. DePriest C+ ... Not Fail for Cardell Jones but Pre-Draft for C. Jones in 2016.. No Winston or Mariota or backup QB needed, wait for the Cleveland Kid 12 Gauge... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren15 Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 Your score is: 7084 (GRADE: A-) Your Picks:Round 1 Pick 12: Danny Shelton, DT, Washington (A)Round 1 Pick 19: DeVante Parker, WR, Louisville (A)Round 2 Pick 11: Eric Kendricks, ILB/OLB, UCLA (A)Round 3 Pick 17 (BUF): Arie Kouandjio, OG, Alabama (A)Round 4 Pick 12: B.J. Finney, C, Kansas State (A)Round 4 Pick 16: Jesse James, TE, Penn State (A-)Round 5 Pick 11: Bryce Hager, ILB, Baylor ©Round 6 Pick 15 (MIA): Corey Robinson, OT, South Carolina (Round 6 Pick 26: Martrell Spaight, OLB, Arkansas (A-)Round 7 Pick 1 (T.B.): Deshazor Everett, CB, Texas A&M (A-)Round 7 Pick 12: Shane Carden, QB, East Carolina (C+)Round 7 Pick 17 (BUF): Justin Manton, K, Louisiana-Monroe (A) Started off OK and screwed it up a little in the middle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 No way Devin Smith is still around at Rd 3 pick 13 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 No way Devin Smith is still around at Rd 3 pick 13 lol Wouldn't be so sure. He's nearly tumbled out of the top 50 in every mock I've seen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 Why, what changed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 Why, what changed? Tape. As more scouts get a look at him they'll see he's been basically a deep threat but hasn't seen much action in intermediate routes. I'll admit there is a part of his route tree that needs to be worked on. Because of that he's tumbled a bit and more teams want WR's that can come in and ball out if you're picked in the 1 or 2nd rounds. Devin is a guy that will need a little bit of time. A big reason why I think he would be such a great fit in Cleveland. He could come in, learn from 2 of the better route runners in the NFL with Hartline and Hawk. Contribute as a 3rd/4th receiver, vertical threat and on special teams as a badass gunner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 ... and numbers. There are folks still moving up the mocks, so someone has to move down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted March 25, 2015 Report Share Posted March 25, 2015 Tape. As more scouts get a look at him they'll see he's been basically a deep threat but hasn't seen much action in intermediate routes. I'll admit there is a part of his route tree that needs to be worked on. Because of that he's tumbled a bit and more teams want WR's that can come in and ball out if you're picked in the 1 or 2nd rounds. Devin is a guy that will need a little bit of time. A big reason why I think he would be such a great fit in Cleveland. He could come in, learn from 2 of the better route runners in the NFL with Hartline and Hawk. Contribute as a 3rd/4th receiver, vertical threat and on special teams as a badass gunner. So basically what we were saying weeks ago on here. Amazing the NFL scouts didn't know. You think they'd pay attention to teams like OSU. I just remember hearing how he was on the way up after the combine, but now he's going back to where he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Well this may shake things up a bit. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000481581/article/randy-gregory-i-blame-myself-for-failed-nfl-combine-drug-test And I think they changed their grading system to reflect a higher grade. Your score is: 7572 (GRADE: A)Your Picks:Round 1 Pick 12: Kevin White, WR, West Virginia (A)Round 1 Pick 19: Malcom Brown, DT, Texas (A)Round 2 Pick 11: Eli Harold, OLB, Virginia (A-)Round 3 Pick 13: Reese Dismukes, C, Auburn (A)Round 4 Pick 12: Ben Koyack, TE, Notre Dame (A-)Round 4 Pick 16: David Cobb, RB, Minnesota (A)Round 5 Pick 11: Jordan Hicks, OLB, Texas (B+)Round 6 Pick 13: Matt Jones, RB, Florida ©Round 6 Pick 26: Justin Manton, K, Louisiana-Monroe (A)Round 7 Pick 12: Kyle Loomis, P, Portland State (A) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted March 26, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Wouldn't be so sure. He's nearly tumbled out of the top 50 in every mock I've seen. Nearly....but not really.....just last week he was pushing close to cracking the first round...his FRX is 47 right now, which is where it's been for 2 months now, except for a recent spike(just last week) where he almost pushed into the first round(32.5) Tape. As more scouts get a look at him they'll see he's been basically (used as) a deep threat but hasn't seen much action in intermediate routes. I'll admit there is a part of his route tree that needs to be worked on(hasn't been seen) Because of that he's tumbled a bit and more teams want WR's that can come in and ball out if you're picked in the 1 or 2nd rounds. Im not sure I agree that scouts are just now seeing him and realizing he was primarily a deep ball receiver. Cmon, thats old news....not some new revelation..... Im certain he'll go in the second round, and most likely in the top half.....and I think there is an outside chance he even gets tapped late 1st.......maybe by Baltimore or New England??..... In the end, you can teach someone to run short and intermediate routes(there are a million WR's who can do this)....but, I think, all teams are looking for someone to stretch the D and hit the long ball...which is something you cant teach, yet all teams want....so, it makes sense that someone will take a chance because he has that one unique talent that no other receiver in this draft has shown....the ability to make the big play consistently..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Mariota happened to fall to 12 both times, so I went with it: Round 1 Pick 12: Marcus Mariota, QB, Oregon (A) Round 1 Pick 20 (PHI): Malcom Brown, DT, Texas (A) Round 2 Pick 11: Lorenzo Mauldin, OLB/DE, Louisville (D+) Round 3 Pick 13: Devin Smith, WR, Ohio State (A) Round 3 Pick 20 (PHI): Daryl Williams, OT, Oklahoma (B+) Round 4 Pick 12: B.J. Finney, C, Kansas State (A-) Round 4 Pick 16: Tyler Kroft, TE, Rutgers ( Round 5 Pick 11: Junior Sylvestre, OLB/ILB, Toledo (F) Round 6 Pick 13: Joey Mbu, DT, Houston (C-) Round 6 Pick 26: Justin Manton, K, Louisiana-Monroe (A) Round 7 Pick 12: Stefon Diggs, WR, Maryland (A) OR Round 1 Pick 12: Marcus Mariota, QB, Oregon (A) Round 1 Pick 20 (PHI): Malcom Brown, DT, Texas (A) Round 2 Pick 11: Eli Harold, OLB, Virginia (A-) Round 3 Pick 20 (PHI): Devin Smith, WR, Ohio State (A) Round 3 Pick 32 (N.E.): Cedric Ogbuehi, OT, Texas A&M (A) Round 4 Pick 2 (N.E.): B.J. Finney, C, Kansas State (B+) Round 4 Pick 12: Tyler Kroft, TE, Rutgers ( Round 4 Pick 16: Donovan Smith, OT, Penn State (B+) Round 5 Pick 11: Chris Conley, WR, Georgia (B-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted March 26, 2015 Report Share Posted March 26, 2015 Nearly....but not really.....just last week he was pushing close to cracking the first round...his FRX is 47 right now, which is where it's been for 2 months now, except for a recent spike(just last week) where he almost pushed into the first round(32.5) Im not sure I agree that scouts are just now seeing him and realizing he was primarily a deep ball receiver. Cmon, thats old news....not some new revelation..... Im certain he'll go in the second round, and most likely in the top half.....and I think there is an outside chance he even gets tapped late 1st.......maybe by Baltimore or New England??..... In the end, you can teach someone to run short and intermediate routes(there are a million WR's who can do this)....but, I think, all teams are looking for someone to stretch the D and hit the long ball...which is something you cant teach, yet all teams want....so, it makes sense that someone will take a chance because he has that one unique talent that no other receiver in this draft has shown....the ability to make the big play consistently..... I won't disagree and I don't think Devin makes it past pick 50 myself. However there are just as many fast players in the NFL and if you can't threaten them with the entirety of a route tree then just telling a player to go vertical every time he's on the field will make your offense that much more ineffective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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