domcucch1994 Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 What was your opinion of the top 10 rankings? 1. Brady 2. Miller 3. Julio 4. Brown 5. Mack 6. Rodgers 7. Zeke 8. OBJ 9. Bell 10. Ryan Personally, I feel that David Johnson should be in the #9 slot, and Bell should be #12. His stats Att: 293 Rush Yds: 1,239 Avg: 4.2 TD's: 16 Rec: 80 Receiving Yds: 879 Avg: 11.0 TD's: 4 Bell's stats Att: 261 Rush Yds: 1,268 Avg: 4.9 TD's: 7 Rec: 75 Receiving Yds: 616 Avg: 8.2 TD's: 2 Johnson had 20 total TD's compared to Bell's 9.. That alone should have put him in the top 10. Now, his average yards per attempt rushing we're slightly lower than Bell's at 4.2 to 4.9, but he had 263 more receiving yards than bell, and caught only 5 more passes than Bell. Both are exceptional backs, but this was one that was a shocker.. Johnson got snubbed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombo Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 Rodgers should be #2 ... He's ridiculous. Zombo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domcucch1994 Posted June 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 Rodgers should be #2 ... He's ridiculous. Zombo I was surprised he wasn't in the top 3... Dude had 40tds to only 7ints and many said he was having a down year.. Yeah ok.. Rodgers's "down year" is better than any of our QB's best years in the entire existence of the Cleveland Browns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 I was surprised he wasn't in the top 3... Dude had 40tds to only 7ints and many said he was having a down year.. Yeah ok.. Rodgers's "down year" is better than any of our QB's best years in the entire existence of the Cleveland Browns. Ah, no. Otto Graham played for the Browns, remember. (now, if you are talking statistics, OK, probably....but I was going further than just mere stats) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 You think 4.9 is "slightly lower" than 4.2 when talking about ypc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 Who the best players will be in 2017 is totally uncertain. Half these guys could get injured. Bell....who has had more positive dope tests than Josh Gordon...yet has been permitted to continue to play, could toke up again and get caught. And other people could really step up to the plate to be standouts. Derek Carr could be in contention again for MVP. I doubt that any rookies can crack the Top 10....but I bet several of them could crack the top 100. By one measure, the following were the top performers of this last season: kPlayerYearAgeDraftTmLgGGSYrsPBAP1AV 1Matt Ryan2016311-3ATLNFL161611121 2Damon Harrison201628NYGNFL161610118 3Aaron Rodgers2016331-24GNBNFL161611018 4David Bakhtiari2016254-109GNBNFL161611017 5Von Miller2016271-2DENNFL161611117 6Bobby Wagner2016262-4 7Drew Brees2016372-32 8Calais Campbell2016302-50ARINFL161610016 9Ezekiel Elliott2016211-4DALNFL151511116 10Julio Jones2016271-6ATLNFL141411116 11Sean Lee2016302-55DALNFL151511116 12Andrew Luck2016271-1INDNFL151510016 13Alex Mack2016311-21ATLNFL161611016 14Khalil Mack2016251-5OAKNFL161611116 15Dak Prescott2016234-135DALNFL161611016 16Le'Veon Bell2016242-48PITNFL121211015 17Jack Conklin2016221-8TENNFL161610115 18Kirk Cousins2016284-102WASNFL161611015 19Aaron Donald2016251-13LARNFL161611115 20Devonta Freeman2016244-103ATLNFL161611015 21David Johnson2016253-86ARINFL161611115 22Zach Orr201624BALNFL151510015 23Tyrod Taylor2016276-180BUFNFL151510015 24Olivier Vernon2016263-72NYGNFL161610015 25Chris Harris201627DENNFL161511114 There are at least a couple of rookies listed in this Top 25 performer list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domcucch1994 Posted June 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 You think 4.9 is "slightly lower" than 4.2 when talking about ypc? Well.. maybe 4.2 is not "slightly lower" than 4.9. It's almost a yard extra per carry and I get that Bell had the better average, but. When you take into account the total TD's Johnson had over Bell, to me, its a head-scratcher that he was ranked lower on the list.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 Well.. maybe 4.2 is not "slightly lower" than 4.9. It's almost a yard extra per carry and I get that Bell had the better average, but. When you take into account the total TD's Johnson had over Bell, to me, its a head-scratcher that he was ranked lower on the list.. I surmise that the list was just some author's subjective point of view. You or I could make such a list and have it be just as legitimate. The only difference being that we do not have a forum to publish our list...nor would we likely be paid for doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 Brady wouldn't be in the top 100 if he didn't play for Belichik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 Brady wouldn't be in the top 100 if he didn't play for Belichik I disagree...it is Brady that makes Belichick...not the other way around. BB would have his team playing like the Browns did in his next to last season. They would play defense well...and play fairly discipline...but they would maybe have won a few playoff games. It is Brady that has made that team elite. Without him, they would basically be what the Kansas City Chiefs have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBrown Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 Can't agree at all and the success of average QBs backing up Brady suggests to me that it's the system that wins rather than 6th round Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 Can't agree at all and the success of average QBs backing up Brady suggests to me that it's the system that wins rather than 6th round Tom Well...you may not agree...but you would be wrong. As I said....the Pats without Brady would be a team with a good defense and would have discipline...but without Brady...they may be a playoff team....NOT a championship team. Tom Brady makes them a Championship team. When Brady leaves...any real chance at Championship leaves with him....unless they get a real quality QB to succeed him....ala Steve Young replacing Joe Montana, or Aaron Rodgers replacing Brett Favre. And how often has that happened? Likely just those two times in history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 What was your opinion of the top 10 rankings? 1. Brady 2. ROGERS 3. RYAN..MVP 4. VON MILLER 5. ANT. BROWN 6. J.JONES 7. MACK 8. OBJ 9. DAVID JOHNSON 10.DREW BREES ^^with ya on Johnson Gip. but you can have Bosa the pick was ZEKE for Gumby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 What was your opinion of the top 10 rankings? 1. Brady 2. Miller 3. Julio 4. Brown 5. Mack 6. Rodgers 7. Zeke 8. OBJ 9. Bell 10. Ryan What bugs me most are all the guys in the top 10 that we just passed on......Julio, K Mack, Zeke, OBJ......to name just a few(and we coulda had them all....right now).....bet Bosa is in there somewhere too.... 32 teams means an average of 3+ per team should make the list.....we are down to 1 player......had 4 in 2014(dumped Ward).....3 in 2015(dumped Gipson)....2 in 2016(dumped Barny)......and now 1....(please dont dump Thomas).... Thats growth for ya! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted June 27, 2017 Report Share Posted June 27, 2017 What bugs me most are all the guys in the top 10 that we just passed on......Julio, K Mack, Zeke, OBJ......to name just a few(and we coulda had them all....right now).....bet Bosa is in there somewhere too.... 32 teams means an average of 3+ per team should make the list.....we are down to 1 player......had 4 in 2014(dumped Ward).....3 in 2015(dumped Gipson)....2 in 2016(dumped Barny)......and now 1....(please dont dump Thomas).... Thats growth for ya! Ghoolie would have us do just that (dump JT)....and trade him in return for some magic beans.....or stale cheesecake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 Well.. maybe 4.2 is not "slightly lower" than 4.9. It's almost a yard extra per carry and I get that Bell had the better average, but. When you take into account the total TD's Johnson had over Bell, to me, its a head-scratcher that he was ranked lower on the list.. Bell played less games and has a longer career resume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
domcucch1994 Posted June 28, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 Bell played less games and has a longer career resume. Bell has played two more seasons than David Johnson, you are right. But Bell's career total touchdowns so far is 31. David Johnson already has 32 total touchdowns and has only played two years. 32>31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 Miller should have been higher @ 1 or 2 last year as SB MVP than his #2 this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted June 28, 2017 Report Share Posted June 28, 2017 Miller should have been higher @ 1 or 2 last year as SB MVP than his #2 this year. That's a homer statement. Whatever Miller may be (roider)....would you really rate him better than the likes of Brady or Rodgers? NYET. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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