MLD Woody Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 Assuming the posts in your Google search are legitimate, I would say those people are wrong. I see no grounds for forcing churches to hold gay weddings. Holding an unpopular opinion and dealing with the public blowback from that is something they will have to des with though (arson threats aside). Let's start like, why do you think gays should not be allowed to get married? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 Let's start like, why do you think gays should not be allowed to get married? Science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Steve Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 Let's start like, why do you think gays should not be allowed to get married? They've always been allowed to get married. FYI WSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted October 12, 2015 Report Share Posted October 12, 2015 Sure, then let gays get married. It won't affect you at all. And no one is saying churches need to allow gay marriage. And private businesses just can't break the law. Simple enough Gay marriage is an abomination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted October 13, 2015 Report Share Posted October 13, 2015 Really now? As a biologist, you have piqued my interest. This is the 2nd post of yours that i've noticed that you mentioned that homosexual marriage goes against science, so i'm assuming that is your hypothesis. Which discipline of science are you referring to? Please post your peer-reviewed research that supports your theory. I've not read the rest of the thread, and I just got to this point and was like "oh fuck, here come the magnets again" Edit: yep, magnets. How do they work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbluhm86 Posted October 13, 2015 Report Share Posted October 13, 2015 I've not read the rest of the thread, and I just got to this point and was like "oh fuck, here come the magnets again" Edit: yep, magnets. How do they work? Well, when you resort to supporting your argument with ICP-logic, you know the well is starting to get mighty dry. http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/fucking-magnets-how-do-they-work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted October 13, 2015 Report Share Posted October 13, 2015 I'm rolling at the magnets lmfao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted October 13, 2015 Report Share Posted October 13, 2015 Well, when you resort to supporting your argument with ICP-logic, you know the well is starting to get mighty dry. http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/fucking-magnets-how-do-they-work Cal's magnets thing has been going for a long time now. Incidentally, there was a scientific study concluding the same thing. Well, sort of. http://www.thisdaylive.com/articles/science-of-gay-marriage/158265/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted October 13, 2015 Report Share Posted October 13, 2015 Well, when you resort to supporting your argument with ICP-logic, you know the well is starting to get mighty dry. http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/fucking-magnets-how-do-they-work That's been a Browns Political Board running joke haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted October 13, 2015 Report Share Posted October 13, 2015 In Cals world are humans 100% analogous to magnets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted October 13, 2015 Report Share Posted October 13, 2015 See, the reason why gay marriage doesn't work - if you rub two sticks together, you get friction, heat then fire. What you don't get are two sticks with opposite polarity that are attracted to one another without making fire. Ergo, by my example, homo's just don't make no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted October 13, 2015 Report Share Posted October 13, 2015 See, the reason why gay marriage doesn't work - if you rub two sticks together, you get friction, heat then fire. What you don't get are two sticks with opposite polarity that are attracted to one another without making fire. Ergo, by my example, homo's just don't make no sense. Biologically it doesn't make sense. There's a lot more to a human than basic biological instincts. The way we feel, think, make decisions, love, sense of morality, adaptability. It's not black and white. Some men/women don't procreate even though they have the ability to. Some men don't "rise in attention" when they see a busty curvy brunette at the beach. It's just the way it is and way it's always been - why fight human nature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieHardBrownsFan Posted October 13, 2015 Report Share Posted October 13, 2015 Biologically it doesn't make sense. There's a lot more to a human than basic biological instincts. The way we feel, think, make decisions, love, sense of morality, adaptability. It's not black and white. Some men/women don't procreate even though they have the ability to. Some men don't "rise in attention" when they see a busty curvy brunette at the beach. It's just the way it is and way it's always been - why fight human nature. Yes there is. Satan, and God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 Yes there is. Satan, and God. I don't even believe the almighty himself see's things quite so black and white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 Is god an ass or tits man? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted October 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 The first time I brought the magnets thing, I really lol'd. And, I still think, that once in a while, when prompted about the stupid perverted subject.. it's still amusing !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 Cal, why do you believe gay marriage should be illegal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbluhm86 Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 The first time I brought the magnets thing, I really lol'd. And, I still think, that once in a while, when prompted about the stupid perverted subject.. it's still amusing !!! Simple minds are easily amused, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted October 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 More likely, a complex mind sees the humor in simple things. I would say that Tim Conway is one of the funniest comedians ever, if not the very most funny comedian on the planet. And, I hardly believe he is of simple mind. If you ever get to read his book, his autobiography, you will find it fascinating, and extremely funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 Alright complex mind, why should gays not be able to marry? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbluhm86 Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 Alright complex mind, why should gays not be able to marry? That seems to be the $1,000,000 question at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted October 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 Outside of the magnets... the better reason is, moral decay of natural real marriage - a building block for society. You think it's harmless to take "mother" and "father" out of marriage? The answer is more complex that you may think it is. It has a whole lot to do with healthy self-actualization of human beings. A child cannot assimilate healthy relationships, easily, by being raised by same sex people. For any exception somebody may find... a multitude of situations are available to show that socialization requires both sexes involved in a healthy, well-adjusted, insightful and instinctive self-actualization. Society is made of up two sexes. To play antagonistic mind games with reality is just perverse in this case. Society has a right, and a need, to protect itself for the sake of the individuals in that society, while maintaining the protection of the individual. This requires a balance for the survival of the society. From Wikipedia: "A human society is a group of people involved in persistent social interaction, or a large social grouping sharing the same geographical or social territory, typically subject to the same political authority and dominant cultural expectations." The family is a basic structure - a tiny microcosm of society. Anything outside of real marriage - male-female - is a perverted construction that defies reality - not only contradicting normal, healthy, biological, emotional and physical relationships between opposite sexes dominant over recorded history.... but it also defies the makeup of society - both sexes. I believe that the perversion of real marriage is destructive to the healthy self-actualization of children. Remember, we are talking about little children in the beginning process of self-actualization. And, to someone who inevitably will spout off about single parent homes, that's easy - those children usually still have associations with grandparents, who will be different sexes - and right there is a conflict of defining real marriage vs a distortion of reality in some kind of "gay couple adopted" scenario. It's often tough enough being adopted, far worse so, in a perversion of real, natural marriage situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 So, in short, gay people are bad and will cause the inevitable decay of society just by existing? Or, it's gay adoption you're against, rather than gay marriage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 1) Do you have any source whatsoever to support your claims about kids raised by same sex parents? 2) The obvious retort here is divorce. Are you fine with that being legal? Are you just assuming every single parent is having their kid spend significant time with both grandparents? That obviously does not cover all situations. 3) Without any facts to back your statements up, we're left with you just saying you don't like it. Not liking something doesn't give grounds to make it illegal. I don't like religion. It perverts an individuals ability to reason. It should be illegal. Now I take it you wouldn't agree with that. 4) This also assumes gay married couples have kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbedward Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 In 10-20 years we'll be past it and nobody will talk about gay marriage...similar to interracial marriage. Sure, you'll have some rednecks at their dinner table for awhile saying "guess what abomination I saw today two MEN holding hands and taking their poor child with them while taking him out for ice cream" But nobody will care. The anti-gay people are significantly outweighed by the majority. It's the way that first-world countries, like the US, are headed. Anybody who doesn't get on board with it will just continue beating a dead horse until they expire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 See, the reason why gay marriage doesn't work - if you rub two sticks together, you get friction, heat then fire. Whether you meant to or not, you just totally made man action sound ridiculously hot. now who wants to rub sticks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clevfan4life Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 In a perfect world I "Might" agree with you Cal, but humans are so thoroughly fucked in the head across the board that it honestly doesn't matter anymore if children are raised with same sex or opposite sex parents. None of us come to know who we are yet we have children regardless and that ends up fuckig them over way more than having two magnets of the same polarity as parents....sorry couldn't resist that's just too fucking hilarious. Anyway....I would tend to agree that two humans of opposite sex that have properly actualized themselves would probably be the optimal situation for raising children. But it doesn't happen here so it's pointless. It's a fallen world remember? Outside of the magnets... the better reason is, moral decay of natural real marriage - a building block for society. You think it's harmless to take "mother" and "father" out of marriage? The answer is more complex that you may think it is. It has a whole lot to do with healthy self-actualization of human beings. A child cannot assimilate healthy relationships, easily, by being raised by same sex people. For any exception somebody may find... a multitude of situations are available to show that socialization requires both sexes involved in a healthy, well-adjusted, insightful and instinctive self-actualization. Society is made of up two sexes. To play antagonistic mind games with reality is just perverse in this case. Society has a right, and a need, to protect itself for the sake of the individuals in that society, while maintaining the protection of the individual. This requires a balance for the survival of the society. From Wikipedia: "A human society is a group of people involved in persistent social interaction, or a large social grouping sharing the same geographical or social territory, typically subject to the same political authority and dominant cultural expectations." The family is a basic structure - a tiny microcosm of society. Anything outside of real marriage - male-female - is a perverted construction that defies reality - not only contradicting normal, healthy, biological, emotional and physical relationships between opposite sexes dominant over recorded history.... but it also defies the makeup of society - both sexes. I believe that the perversion of real marriage is destructive to the healthy self-actualization of children. Remember, we are talking about little children in the beginning process of self-actualization. And, to someone who inevitably will spout off about single parent homes, that's easy - those children usually still have associations with grandparents, who will be different sexes - and right there is a conflict of defining real marriage vs a distortion of reality in some kind of "gay couple adopted" scenario. It's often tough enough being adopted, far worse so, in a perversion of real, natural marriage situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gftChris Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 Two loving parents, regardless of gender, are always better than an abusive parent, a negligent parent etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LogicIsForSquares Posted October 14, 2015 Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 I dealt with tons of kids who would have been better off with gay parents who actually wanted to be parents as opposed to the scum they ended up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted October 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2015 http://www.frc.org/issuebrief/new-study-on-homosexual-parents-tops-all-previous-research http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/mar/5/are-kids-just-as-well-off-with-same-sex-parents-ma/?page=all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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