darubes Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Most Improved for 2013: Brandon Weeden heads quarterbacks By Bucky Brooks Analyst, NFL.com and NFL Network Published: June 26, 2013 at 12:21 p.m. Updated: June 26, 2013 at 12:53 p.m. 0 Likes | 0 Comments Email Print Read Discuss It happens every fall. A player bursts onto the scene, makes a big play or helps his team win a pivotal game, and the collective football world celebrates his arrival as a true difference maker in the NFL. Let's get ahead of the curve! In advance of the 2013 season, NFL.com analyst Bucky Brooks identifies candidates for significant improvement, concentrating on quarterbacks below. Most Improved Quarterback for 2013: Brandon Weeden Weeden's backstory: The Cleveland Browns drafted Weeden with the 22nd selection in the 2012 NFL Draft, hoping to solve the team's long-term woes at quarterback. Entering the NFL at age 28 -- thanks to a five-year stint in professional baseball -- Weeden was expected to step in and immediately contribute, while adding much-needed leadership and guidance in the huddle. Additionally, the Oklahoma State product's big arm was supposed to add a vertical element to the Browns' aerial attack, resulting in more explosive plays and points. In hindsight, former head coach Pat Shurmur's dink-and-dunk offense didn't play to Weeden's strengths as a deep-ball thrower. And the inexperience permeating Cleveland's receiving corps led to several miscues in key moments. Factor in the difficult transition from college to the pro game, and it's not surprising Weeden struggled to live up to lofty expectations as a rookie. Why he will improve in 2013: New head coach Rob Chudzinski and new offensive coordinator Norv Turner will make Weeden a vastly improved player in his sophomore campaign. Each brings a distinguished track record of success developing young quarterbacks in a scheme originally derived from the Don Coryell/Ernie Zampese system. Chudzinski, who served as the Carolina Panthers' offensive coordinator before returning to his former employer in Cleveland, helped Cam Newton become the first rookie to pass for 4,000 yards in 2011. In his first two NFL seasons, Newton guided an offense that ranked sixth in completions of 20-plus yards in both 2011 and 2012. However, Chudzinski's work with Newton pales in comparison to his masterful job of transforming Derek Anderson into a Pro Bowl quarterback as the Browns' offensive coordinator in 2007. Prominently targeting Braylon Edwards and Kellen Winslow in the vertical-based passing game, Anderson threw for 3,787 yards with 29 touchdown passes (and 19 interceptions), leading theBrowns to their only 10-win season since 1994. Turner has also developed an esteemed reputation as a quarterback guru, having worked with a bevy of notable signal-callers, including Troy Aikman and most recently Philip Rivers. Rivers passed for 4,500-plus yards in back-to-back seasons (2010 and '11), a feat accomplished just five times in NFL history. In addition, Turner has coached the NFL's leading rusher five times. A productive ground attack sets up a dangerous play-action passing game that typically results in several big plays on the perimeter. Given Weeden's strengths as a deep-ball thrower, the marriage with a pair of vertical-pass proponents should yield big results for the Browns. Chudzinski and Turner will craft game plans that routinely feature deep shots off an assortment of play-action fakes designed to lure linebackers and safeties to the line, while exploiting single coverage on talented young receivers Josh Gordon and Greg Little. With Trent Richardson likely commanding eight-man fronts due to Cleveland's increased commitment to the running game, Weeden should be able to make more vertical throws like the one highlighted in the video just above. Factor in the invaluable experience gained from Weeden's 15-game stint as a rookie starter -- he missed the season finale with a spained right shoulder -- and the second-year man will not only thrive in a system conducive to his talents, but he will silence the critics questioning his potential as a franchise quarterback. Impact on the team: The Browns will be very competitive in the AFC North, with Weeden, Richardson and Gordon emerging as a formidable offensive trio. It will not be enough to make a playoff push, but a .500 season is a realistic possibility in 2013. Projected 2013 stat line: 59.5 completion percentage, 3,950 passing yards, 28 touchdowns, 13 interceptions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cvcanedy Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 I'd take those numbers in a second. If think we'd get one or two more wins with them, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Bottom line is Weeden is the best guy on the roster. This system and coaching staff should make a QB thrive, so if he sucks we'll be drafting from a deep class next year. I am looking forward to seeing his improvement though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenew23 Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Wow! A positive article about the Browns. About time. I believe everything written here to be true. Weeden has all the natural ability in the world to be a great QB. Will he turn that ability into results? That's the question... Can Norv turn Weeden, Richardson, Gordon into the Aikman, Smith, Irving trio? I guess we'll find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Wow! A positive article about the Browns. About time. I believe everything written here to be true. Weeden has all the natural ability in the world to be a great QB. Will he turn that ability into results? That's the question... Can Norv turn Weeden, Richardson, Gordon into the Aikman, Smith, Irving trio? I guess we'll find out. Calm it down, buddy. Lets get more than 7 wins before we start throwing around Troy Aikman and Emmitt Smith comparisons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shep Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Wait... Weeden is the best player on our roster? Why do you say that? Joe Thomas has played in five Pro Bowls. Haden is one of the top five or so corners in the NFL. DQJ has two Pro Bowl Alternate years and led the NFL in tackles once. Weeden ranked 30th in PR, right? I'm not being coy. I just don't know how you came to that conclusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenew23 Posted June 26, 2013 Report Share Posted June 26, 2013 Calm it down, buddy. Lets get more than 7 wins before we start throwing around Troy Aikman and Emmitt Smith comparisons. Never compared them, other than it's 3 guys who play the same positions. I was merely hoping for something great to happen in Cleveland. I can hope, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 I took it as Weeden is the best qb on the roster... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cysko Kid Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 Wait... Weeden is the best player on our roster? Why do you say that? Joe Thomas has played in five Pro Bowls. Haden is one of the top five or so corners in the NFL. DQJ has two Pro Bowl Alternate years and led the NFL in tackles once. Weeden ranked 30th in PR, right? I'm not being coy. I just don't know how you came to that conclusion. I'm pretty sure he was only referring to the QB position. Sheesh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldDawgCliff Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 I took it as Weeden is the best qb on the roster... That is the way I took Jrb's comment too. As for the article, about the only thing I didn't care for was the predicted completion percentage that Brooks assigned Brandon. If Brandon isn't in the 65% range or better, I will be disappointed. Otherwise, it was nice after the La Camfora article and the LeBron thing. If we can just get Josh into training camp with only the two game suspension, things should be looking up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Couch Pulls Out Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 Never compared them, other than it's 3 guys who play the same positions. I was merely hoping for something great to happen in Cleveland. I can hope, right? As a Cleveland fan you should have learned long ago that they're is no such thing as hope. Only disappointment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenew23 Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 As a Cleveland fan you should have learned long ago that they're is no such thing as hope. Only disappointment. That's where you're wrong my friend. You literally can't have disapointment without some hope; therefore, they must co-exist. I have 2 choices, 1) expect bad to happen only to meet my expectations if the team stinks, and be surprised if they win, or 2) hope for something good, and be disappointed.if they lose or feel very justified in my relentless optimism and faith that eventually this team will turn it around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unsympathetic Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 Most Improved will go to either Weeds or Tannehill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sisky fringo Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 if Flash is up to the task Weeds laser is gonna achieve Aaron Rogers level play this season. ..but if Josh doesn't get a clue soon the city will run him the fuck outta town and dub him the next ModellaBron. bank it. wake up kids! or itll be more easy come easy go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted June 28, 2013 Report Share Posted June 28, 2013 Most Improved will go to either Weeds or Tannehill. well with weeden there is no way to go but up. thanks for the insight, bucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comeonman Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 I'd take those numbers in a second. If think we'd get one or two more wins with them, though.if Weeden puts those kind of numbers up we are a playoff team. Sorry to be "that guy", but I seriously doubt that happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 even though i didn't like the weeden pick, i think he's the best we got right now. if he becomes more accurate with his deep balls, quits telegraphing the pick six screen and learns to read the defense they throw out there against him, i think we could see an .500 season. if the defense can put it together in horton's first year and actually win us a couple more, i'm smellin playoffs. not for nothing and i know it's weird, but with the new ownership (please let that flying j shit go away) and the new staff and our sophmore guys with the young talent on d...................i haven't been this optimistic since our first year back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nickers Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 Its all up to Weeden to own the 2nd and 4th quarters of games..I couldnt give 2 shits about QB rating/percentage...its about W's and thats the bottom line... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sisky fringo Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 i hope Weeds main focus is to continue to work on executing the two minute. once he has that long drives can be achieved through effective play calling. a fast start and early lead is more important than anything though. strike hard and fast in first half, then let Tr3nt and Obby take it home in the 2nd. if they can do that they will win games easier...the alternative will be struggling to win down to the last second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shep Posted June 29, 2013 Report Share Posted June 29, 2013 Oh, my bad. Came from a board with some REALLY insane hyperbole about any number of things, have to recalibrate my reactive instincts (!). For the sake of honesty, I pimped Tannehill/Martin a ton before the draft and I'd still do that in a heartbeat. But that ship has sailed and I do have a reasonable amount of hope for Weeden. Didn't really hate the pick but I thought a lot more of Tannehill than most Browns fans and still do. If this regime was in charge then, I have zero doubt that would've been the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sez.EJ Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7480/brandon-weeden Jaworski has reviewed all the film on Weeds and believes he will be a "rock solid starter" in the NFL. I believe Jaws is a solid evaluator of mechanics etc.. Weeds just needs to improve on his reads and he's on the way. Said Weeds "showed uncommon poise and calm in the pocket". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7480/brandon-weeden Jaworski has reviewed all the film on Weeds and believes he will be a "rock solid starter" in the NFL. I believe Jaws is a solid evaluator of mechanics etc.. Weeds just needs to improve on his reads and he's on the way. Said Weeds "showed uncommon poise and calm in the pocket". Just saw the Jaws report on ESPN. He did have a lot of nice things to say about Weeden, but only ranked him #26 of the starting qbs- mainly because of rookie mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
calfoxwc Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 I wonder how many of Weeden's mistakes resulted from the Shurmur systems in place? Shurmur had a hell of a time trying to get the plays in quickly enough. That's a very bad sign... My guess is, Weeden will begin to be very successful with people that really know what they're doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopDawg31 Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 I wonder how many of Weeden's mistakes resulted from the Shurmur systems in place? Shurmur had a hell of a time trying to get the plays in quickly enough. That's a very bad sign... My guess is, Weeden will begin to be very successful with people that really know what they're doing. I'm onboard with you on that one, I believe all of Weeden's issues were a direct result of the system he was in, ex. calling a handoff to a TE that never carried the ball before. I am expecting a breakout season for our entire offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrb12711 Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7480/brandon-weeden Jaworski has reviewed all the film on Weeds and believes he will be a "rock solid starter" in the NFL. I believe Jaws is a solid evaluator of mechanics etc.. Weeds just needs to improve on his reads and he's on the way. Said Weeds "showed uncommon poise and calm in the pocket". To play devils advocate, I legitimately can't think of a time outside of Tim Tebow where Jaws doesn't say nice things about an NFL player. It seems like every person he talks about is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLEVELANDwantsPLAYOFFS Posted July 2, 2013 Report Share Posted July 2, 2013 To play devils advocate, I legitimately can't think of a time outside of Tim Tebow where Jaws doesn't say nice things about an NFL player. It seems like every person he talks about is good. And rightfully so. They're the best of the best. Supporting cast and systems make a big difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miktoxic Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 out of all the 'espn' nfl analysists, i think jawaorski is the worse....followed up by gruden. couldn't give a flying fuck about what either of them say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shep Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 I'd want to get Dilfer, Mayock, and Cosell to sit down with that game tape. I'd listen to those three talk for like four hours, minimum. And I'd learn a lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canton Mike Posted July 3, 2013 Report Share Posted July 3, 2013 I wonder how many of Weeden's mistakes resulted from the Shurmur systems in place? Shurmur had a hell of a time trying to get the plays in quickly enough. That's a very bad sign... My guess is, Weeden will begin to be very successful with people that really know what they're doing. Yeah. Players had to have ZERO confidence in a coaching staff that failed to get plays in quickly. That'll change dramatically! Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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