Solon16 Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 Looking back at 99 draft ...this will be a series.... We drafted 11 guys in 99....not one is even in the league. Notable first round misses.......still in league....Donovan Mcnabb, Ricky williams , Edgerin James, tory holt, champ bailey, chris Mcallister...etc etc...in round one patrick kearney, jevon kearse, antoine winfield,al wilson....blah notable second rounders still in league......Dre Bly,jon hansen,mike petersen,mike rucker(just retired this year)Jimmy Kleinssaser....etc etc alot more third rounders still in league....Chike Okefor, Marty Booker, Joey Porter, jon thornton, kevin Faulk, etc etc 4th Brandon Stokely, rosevelt colvin, aaron smith etc etc 5th kelly gregg, (Eric Barton, David Bowens) lol 6th desmond clark 7th donald driver..............there are a ton of guys still playing from this draft class that I did not mention...alot!!! none of our guys are even in the league. now the year 2000 next... OUR PICKS: TC, KJ, Daylon McCutcheon, Rahim abdullah, marquis smith, waLI RAINER, DAREN CHIAVERINI, MARCUS SPRIGGS, kENDALL OGLE, jAMES DEARTH, MADRE HILL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBestPlayersPlay Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 Looking back at 99 draft ...this will be a series.... We drafted 11 guys in 99....not one is even in the league. Notable first round misses.......still in league....Donovan Mcnabb, Ricky williams , Edgerin James, tory holt, champ bailey, chris Mcallister...etc etc...in round one patrick kearney, jevon kearse, antoine winfield,al wilson....blah notable second rounders still in league......Dre Bly,jon hansen,mike petersen,mike rucker(just retired this year)Jimmy Kleinssaser....etc etc alot more third rounders still in league....Chike Okefor, Marty Booker, Joey Porter, jon thornton, kevin Faulk, etc etc 4th Brandon Stokely, rosevelt colvin, aaron smith etc etc 5th kelly gregg, (Eric Barton, David Bowens) lol 6th desmond clark 7th donald driver..............there are a ton of guys still playing from this draft class that I did not mention...alot!!! none of our guys are even in the league. now the year 2000 next... OUR PICKS: TC, KJ, Daylon McCutcheon, Rahim abdullah, marquis smith, waLI RAINER, DAREN CHIAVERINI, MARCUS SPRIGGS, kENDALL OGLE, jAMES DEARTH, MADRE HILL Madre Hill was to be our diamond in the rough next great RB. And What about the next coming of Brian Brennen Mr. Chiaverini. Great draft. These guys don't even have to pay me to run one of their drafts and I could do a whole hell of a lot better than what we've had the past decade. Maybe I can contact Lerner and save him some jack. (hopefully Mangini bucks the trend) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solon16 Posted October 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 2000 13 GUYS DRAFTED... ONLY NORTHCUTT STILL IN LEAGUE....caveat lewis sanders is somewhere... Notable first round misses(as in we missed)and still in league...Chris samuels, Jamal lewis*, thomas jones, Plax, Urlacher, John Abraham, Julian petersen...etc etc second rd....Mark simeneau, john st. clair*, Damian mcintosh, nate webster....etc third rd....misses....marvel smith, chad clifton, mike brown, ian gold, adrian klemm etc etc 4th terrelle smith, alvin Mckinley* , cooper carlisle, etc 5th....Clark haggins, Shane lechler, Kabila Gbaja-biamila ,Dante hall.... 6th and seventh.....Tom Brady, marc bulger, Dhani Jones, Adalius Thomas, Robaire smith* Our picks.......... Courtney brown, Dennis northcutt, travis prentice, jajaun dawson, Lewis Sanders, aaron shea, anthony marlborough, lamar champan, eric chandler, rashidi barnes, brad bedell, spergeon wynn manuia sevea JESUS CHRISTO>>>>>>ONLY NORTHDRP and Lewis Sanders are still in the League... Lewis sanders did a couple stints with us but look at all the misses we had that made there way to us eventually....redonkulous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solon16 Posted October 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 we can talk about butch davis and savage(and I will) but missing on 22 of 24 players from these two draft classes are why we SUCK! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solon16 Posted October 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 2001....just sick: 8 players drafted ONLY Gerard warren(1st) and anthony henry(4th) still in league notable 1st rounders missed (vomit) LT, richard seymour, ....fk just too many to list round 2....missed Kyle Vanden Bosch, Ochostinko, Ken lucas, Kris Jenkins, fred smoot, Matt light, Chris chambers, Gary Baxter*, Shaun Rogers*, round three....Mike Gandy, steve smith(wr), Kareem Mckenzie casey rabach, Jonas Jennings.... 4th Rudi Johnson, Matt stewart*, correll Buckhalter, Ed Hartwell Floyd Womack* 5th Aj feeley, matt lehr(not much) 6th Cedrick wilson...not much 7th TJ houshmandzadeh Our picks: Gerard Warren, Quincy Morgan, James Jackson, Anthony Henry, Jeremiah Pharms, Paul Zukaskas and andre(i'll tell) king as of 2001....we missed on 28 of 32 picks.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solon16 Posted October 7, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 2002....8 guys drafted Only Andre davis, Andra davis maybe...... kevin bentley and melvin fowler.... in league still(i know one of these guys are on the street) Missed....1st round ed reed, charles grant lito shepherd, marc columbo...etc etc etc second... sheldon brown, clinton portis, antonio bryant* third....brian westbrook, akin ayodele 4th...David thorton, jarvis green, dave zastudil* 5th......Rocky benard, aaron Kampman, scott fujita, robert royal*, Kenyon coleman* (getting rediculous) 6th....CHESTER TAYLOR, justin hartwig, jeb putzer, adrian petersen(bears0 7th...Brett keisel, kevin schaffer* vomit our picks Willy green, Andre Davis, Melvin Fowler, Kevin Bentley, Ben taylor, Darnell Sanders, Andra Davis, joaquin Gonzales That's 34 of 40 out of league.... of the 6 in the league...none are with the Browns! So Again to reinterate ZERO OUT OF 40 STILL WITH THE BROWNS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squintz Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 Stop! Please.....STOP! I'm getting sick..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegasdogg Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 No no, keep going. We need to see the carnage. You were saying......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ballpeen Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 Looking back at 99 draft ...this will be a series.... We drafted 11 guys in 99....not one is even in the league. Notable first round misses.......still in league....Donovan Mcnabb, Ricky williams , Edgerin James, tory holt, champ bailey, chris Mcallister...etc etc...in round one patrick kearney, jevon kearse, antoine winfield,al wilson....blah notable second rounders still in league......Dre Bly,jon hansen,mike petersen,mike rucker(just retired this year)Jimmy Kleinssaser....etc etc alot more third rounders still in league....Chike Okefor, Marty Booker, Joey Porter, jon thornton, kevin Faulk, etc etc 4th Brandon Stokely, rosevelt colvin, aaron smith etc etc 5th kelly gregg, (Eric Barton, David Bowens) lol 6th desmond clark 7th donald driver..............there are a ton of guys still playing from this draft class that I did not mention...alot!!! none of our guys are even in the league. now the year 2000 next... OUR PICKS: TC, KJ, Daylon McCutcheon, Rahim abdullah, marquis smith, waLI RAINER, DAREN CHIAVERINI, MARCUS SPRIGGS, kENDALL OGLE, jAMES DEARTH, MADRE HILL Wouldn't it be easier and less painful to just allow someone to beat you over the shins 10 times with 1/2 inch hydraulic hose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car ramrod Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 It would be easier just to name the players that are still on our team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solon16 Posted October 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 2003 7 players drafted.... Ryan Pontbriand only player on our team. one other starts for NO (faine) 3 others spot duty Chris Crocker,Chaun Thompson michael lehan.....(maybe... don't know if lehan still in league) lee suggs and antonio Garay out of league... in order...:jeff faine, Chaun Thompson, Chris Crocker, Lee Suggs, Ryan Pontbriand, Michael lehan and antonio Garay 1st round misses (not really relevant) because faine starts...but Nnamdi Asomugha, larry johnson, willis McGahee, eric Steinbach* 2nd round misses (this hurts...) Anquan Bolden, Osi Umenyura, gerald hayes, derrick dockery, lj smith, cory redding. 3rd....visanthe shiancoe, justin fargas, Bradie james... 4th .... Asante samual, brandon llyod 5th justin Gage, Dan Koppen, Donald lee, sean mahan, tony pashos 6th cato june, arnaz battle(not much) 7th Tully bunta - cain, Kevin Walter and ethan kelley* SO 1 GUY OUT OF 47 STILL WITH BROWNS...THE LONG SNAPPER!!! Faine,crocker,pont,and lehan (maybe) still in league.... 36 guys we drafted out of the league out of 47 picks......of the 11 still playing only the Long snapper remains on our team....LOL and everyone cried when we took him...ha ha ha. (this is fkn hard work) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NebBrownsFan Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 2000 13 GUYS DRAFTED... ONLY NORTHCUTT STILL IN LEAGUE....caveat lewis sanders is somewhere... Notable first round misses(as in we missed)and still in league...Chris samuels, Jamal lewis*, thomas jones, Plax, Urlacher, John Abraham, Julian petersen...etc etc second rd....Mark simeneau, john st. clair*, Damian mcintosh, nate webster....etc third rd....misses....marvel smith, chad clifton, mike brown, ian gold, adrian klemm etc etc 4th terrelle smith, alvin Mckinley* , cooper carlisle, etc 5th....Clark haggins, Shane lechler, Kabila Gbaja-biamila ,Dante hall.... 6th and seventh.....Tom Brady, marc bulger, Dhani Jones, Adalius Thomas, Robaire smith* Our picks.......... Courtney brown, Dennis northcutt, travis prentice, jajaun dawson, Lewis Sanders, aaron shea, anthony marlborough, lamar champan, eric chandler, rashidi barnes, brad bedell, spergeon wynn manuia sevea JESUS CHRISTO>>>>>>ONLY NORTHDRP and Lewis Sanders are still in the League... Lewis sanders did a couple stints with us but look at all the misses we had that made there way to us eventually....redonkulous Can you really count Plax as still being in the league? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solon16 Posted October 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 2004.....6 players drafted.....Kellen Winslow(traded2nd), sean jones (moved up to 2nd and gave up 3rd and swapped fifthpicks)3rd nada, 4th Luke McCown 5th Amon Gordon 6th Kirk Chambers 7th Adima---echemandu(JOE) NONE WITH TEAM......Luke McCown,sean jones backups...Winslow only starter with other team....other 3 out of league. 39 guys out of 53 Drafted NOT IN NFL , 14 players still in league only 1 still on the Browns. 1st round misses (again not really relevent winslow starts but...Ben Rothlisberger, tommie harris, lee evans, vince wilfork 2nd round...Jake Grove, Chris snee, Justin Smiley, Antwan odom, devery hendersen 3rd (all) Darnell docket Max Starks, Bernard Berrian 4th....jericho Cotchery, Jared Allen 5th... DJ Hackett...Errik Coleman 6th...(GET THIS) Corey Williams, Rex Hadnot 7th...Patrick Crayton, Derrick Ward 1 out of 53 guys we drafted still with team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pl4tinum Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 keep going hoe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradyQuinnisBeast Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 This is somehow humorous Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solon16 Posted October 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 2005...7 players drafted.....ONE STILL WITH TEAM....THAT MAKES 2 OUT OF 60 PLAYERS DRAFTED STILL WITH THE BROWNS....4 MORE OUT OF FOOTBALL...... AND FRYE NEARLY OUT........ 43 OF OUR DRAFT PICKS IN THE LAST/First 60 ARE OUT OF THE NFL!OF THE 17 IN THE NFL ONLY 2 PLAY FOR THE BROWNS. (Pontbriand and Pool) 17 of our 60 draft picks are in the nfl Braylon Edwards, Brodney Pool, Charlie Frye, Antonio perkins, Dave McMillan, Nick Speegle, and Jon Dunn in order 1~7 1st round missed...again BE is a starter....but Demarcus ware, Shawne Merriman.... 2nd round....lofa tatupu, kevin burnett, corey webster 3rd(ouch)round...Channing Crowder, Justin tuck, Ellis Hobbs, leroy hill, nick kaczur, trai essex, dominique foxworth, 4th(even worse) Brandon Jacobs,Marion Barber, Kerry rhodes, Vincent fuller, Jason Brown, Chris Canty, Darren Sproles, Brady Poppinga, Dan Buenning 5th round misses...Trent Cole, Michael Boley, Gerald sensabaugh 6th roun....Bo Scaife, Jovan Haye, Chris Kemoeatu...(get this) CJ Mosely,Derrick Anderson and Daven Holly* 7th round...Reynaldo hill, matt casell, Jay Ratliff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solon16 Posted October 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 2006...as far as I'm going.......vomit 9 players drafted......4 still with team....(just fkn three years ago)....5 OUT OF NFL .....THAT MAKES 6 OF 69 DRAFT PICKS STILL WITH THE BROWNS SINCE 99 ///////// 48 OUT OF 69 DRAFT PICKS OUT OF FOOTBALL In order (1)Kam Wimbley, (traded faine and moved up to NO swapped second rounders)...(2)Dqwell Jackson, (3)Travis Wilson, (4a)Leon Williams,)(4b) Issac sowells, (5a)Jerome Harrison, (5b)Demario Minter, (6)Lawrence Vickers and (7)Justin Hamilton Misses...rd1 nick mangold, Deangelo williams, Santonio Holmes blah blah blah rd 2...maurice jones drew, Marcus Mcneil, Lendale white, Devin hester, Greg Jennings, Roman Harper rd 3 Jerious Norwood, David Thomas, Rashad butler, Max Jean Giles rd4. (fkn sick) Brandon Marshall, leon washington, Barry cofield, Stephen tulloch, Will blackmon, Elvis dumervill , Domenik Hixon, Parys Harleson, willie colon, rd 5...dawan landry,mark anderson, rd 6... Omar gaither, Pat McQuistan round 7 Courtland Finnegan and Marquis Colston cant do anymore...VOMIT Building through the draft is absolutely to way to go ONLY IF YOU CAN EVALUATE TALENT! The worst in the NFL bar none....there is no need to look any further into what is wrong with the Cleveland Browns....Can someone figure out those percentages....my brain hurts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdwardG Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 2006...as far as I'm going.......vomit THAT MAKES 6 OF 69 DRAFT PICKS STILL WITH THE BROWNS SINCE 99 ///////// 48 OUT OF 69 DRAFT PICKS OUT OF FOOTBALL It'd be interesting to see these stats for the Steelers and Ravens from 1999-2006. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gips Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 10 years of bad GMs and horrible coaches...combined with al being fire happy and randy not letting crennel/savage go soon enough are the real root of the problem... Randy obviously likes mangini and hopefully will stick with him because thats really what it will take to turn things around...unlike past coaches/GMs im starting to think this regime may be a very solid drafter... We have yet to see robiskie and velkune but i bet they will both be worth the wait when mangooni deems them ready...im actually feeling pretty good about this regime as their longterm plan becomes more obvious..Daboll needs to add more flavors to his rather stale vanilla plan but that seems to be happening with DA at the helm... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roach Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 2004.....6 players drafted.....Kellen Winslow(traded2nd), sean jones (moved up to 2nd and gave up 3rd and swapped fifthpicks)3rd nada, 4th Luke McCown 5th Amon Gordon 6th Kirk Chambers 7th Adima---echemandu(JOE) NONE WITH TEAM......Luke McCown,sean jones backups...Winslow only starter with other team....other 3 out of league. [/b] Oops. i got to know Chambers when he was in town, and he is still with Buffalo (unless something has happened in the last couple weeks). Nonetheless, you're point is well taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solon16 Posted October 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 It'd be interesting to see these stats for the Steelers and Ravens from 1999-2006. Too much work but I did a quick first two years of Ravens 99 and 2000 Draft.... 4 picks 1999... 1st rd Chris McAlister, no second, no third, 4th round Brandon Stokely 4th round Edwin Mulitalo, no 5th no 6th, 7th rd Anthony Poindexter 3 still playing in NFL 1 out of league 3 of 4 still in NFL , 1 of 4 out of league , 1 still plays for ravens 2000: 6 Picks rd 1 Jamal Lewis rd 1 Travis Taylor rd 3 Chris Redman rd 5 Richard Marcier rd 6 Adalius Thomas rd 6 Cedric woodard 3 still playing, 3 out of league, none still with ravens.... 6 of 10 still playing in league... 4 out of Nfl..... They did better in 99 and 2000 than we have in 1 whole decade...they did better with 10 draft picks than we have with 69(thru 2006) we had 24 picks in those two draft years...only one still in league....northdrop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solon16 Posted October 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 I did a quick first two years of Steelers 99 and 2000 Draft.... 99' 11 picks: Troy edwards, Scot Shields, Joey Porter, Kris Farris, Amos Zereoue, Aaron Smith, Jereme Tuman, Malcolm Johnson, Antonio Dingle, Chad Kelsay, Kris Brown 3 still in league...(1 played a pretty long time), 8 out of league...One still with Steelers. 2000: 9 picks: Plaxico Burress, Marvel Smith, Kendrick Clancy, Hank Poteat, Danny Farmer, Clark Haggins, Tee Martin, Chris Combs, Jason Gavadza Still in league Clark haggins and Marvel Smith just cut this year so I will include him(each played 10 years).....haggins played ten years for the team that drafted him!!! 2 still in league + 2 that played 10 years and Plax {who'd still be playing(neb)} SO 20 draft picks 5 still in league + Plax and + Haggins and Marvel smith who both played 10 years.... 1 still with team, 8 still in NFL - (*plax) who'd still be playing....*haggins and smith who played 10 years. That's 8 of 20 Still not great but 800% better than The Browns.... AGAIN WAY BETTER THAN THE BROWNS DID in 99' and 2000(plus pitt drafts after 2000 Kill us) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solon16 Posted October 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 OK to finish with 2007 and 2008 OOF = OUT OF FOOTBALL 2007 7 Picks: 4 with team....3 out of football JT,BQ,Eric Wright, Brandon Mcdonald,{ Melila Purcell,Chase Pittman and steptoe} OOF 2008 6 Picks: 2 with team....2 out of football + 2 on Dev squad Beau bell(oof), Martin Rucker (dev squad), Ahtyba Rubin, Paul Hubbard(dev squad), Allen Patrick(oof) Alex hall... For a Grand total of I'll be generous and include the two practice squad players..... 53 PLAYERS OUT OF 82 DRAFTED BY BROWNS ARE OUT OF FOOTBALL AS OF DRAFT CLASS THRU 2008.... 12 OF 82 STILL WITH THE BROWNS + 2 DEV SQUAD 12 OUT OF 82 PICKS!!!!! 6 OF THOSE FROM 07', 08' HERE IS SOLE REASON WE SUCK AS A FOOTBALL TEAM........ONLY 29 PLAYERS DRAFTED IN 82 TRIES PLAY IN THE NFL!!! ONLY FKN 12 ARE STILL WITH THE BROWNS AND HALF THAT ARE GUYS IN THE LEAGUE 2 YEARS OR LESS!!! RAVENS DRAFT CLASS OF 1999 AND 2000 = 6 of 10 still playing in league...AND THEY ONLY HAD 10 PICKS IN 2 DRAFT CLASSES... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Masters Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Good stuff Solon. Though I got to say, this didn't make me feel any better about the Browns now or in the coming future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Masters Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Hey the guys drafted in 2009 are stil in football! LOL.....For now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solon16 Posted October 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 BRINGS IN NEW MEANING TO US BARKING 'OOF OOF OOF' OOF = OUT OF FOOTBALL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razor1414 Posted October 8, 2009 Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Very nice solon, you put in alot of work. Great read, depressing as hell but very informative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solon16 Posted October 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 OK chalk off lewis sanders and melvin fowler...both OOF! so 27 out of 82 picks still in league, and 55 players out of 82 picks out of football....and 12 of the 82 still with the browns....! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solon16 Posted October 8, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 8, 2009 Drum roll please..............in first 7 draft classes 99~2005.........20 picks in first three rounds..............Only Brodney Pool is left on our team!!!!!!!!! 1 for 20.....wooohooooo!!!!!!! 9 of 20 OOF ///// 10 of 20 on other teams//// and only 4 start!!! BE, Winslow, Faine and Gerard Warren. Frye, sean jones, chaun thompson, Northdrop, andre davis and chris crocker are backups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solon16 Posted October 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2009 Too much work to let die: Baltimore....... In the 7 draft classes 99'~05 7 of the 17 picks in first three rounds of those draft Classes...Still with team 5 of 17 out of football 12 of 17 still in league 5 play for other teams jamal lewis casey rabach start, ///// Devard Darling, Chris Redman and Kyle boller backups Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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