One Post Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 Yes. It's time to go on record. For me it's Lattimore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 I think it is way to early to be "on the record"...but certainly one can guess "off the record". I say one of the RBs, either Fournette or Cook. Since Fournette is generally ranked higher, I will give it to him. Trent Richardson 2.0? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 Of course this is difficult to predict. Lets look at 3 years ago. There are 4 certifiable draft busts from the 2014 class: Justin Gilbert DB Browns John P. Manziel QB Browns Darquez Denard DB Bengals Marcus Smith LB Eagles. Other than the fact that the first two faced the "Browns jinx", who could tell about who would bust or not from that draft? None of the Top 3 have lived up to their draft status: Clowney Greg Robinson OT Bortles. Not certifiable busts, but underachievers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Post Posted April 21, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 For as first round picks Gip they're all busts. Next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiamat63 Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 Watson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 Hooker.....Trubisky..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comeonman Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 McCaffrey, Watson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comeonman Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 Hooker.....Trubisky.....Can't see Hooker being anything but above average, we shall see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wargograw Posted April 21, 2017 Report Share Posted April 21, 2017 Howard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinkHole Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 Other than the fact that the first two faced the "Browns jinx", who could tell about who would bust or not from that draft? None of the Top 3 have lived up to their draft status: Clowney Greg Robinson OT Bortles. Not certifiable busts, but underachievers. Wasn't Clowney also touted as a beast? The first pick of the draft. No team could go wrong picking Clowney? Clowney at 6'5" and 270 and Garrett at 6'4", 272 have nearly the same physique...not that it proves anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Post Posted April 22, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 Wasn't Clowney also touted as a beast? The first pick of the draft. No team could go wrong picking Clowney?Clowney at 6'5" and 270 and Garrett at 6'4", 272 have nearly the same physique...not that it proves anything.Along with Mo Williams. Maybe a solid pick but not near a #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 Wasn't Clowney also touted as a beast? The first pick of the draft. No team could go wrong picking Clowney? Clowney at 6'5" and 270 and Garrett at 6'4", 272 have nearly the same physique...not that it proves anything. Once recovered from injuries, Clowney did just fine this year even without JJ. My pick is Barnett as a bust.Overrated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaineDeSoulis Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 Dalvin Cook for Offense and Reuben Foster for Defense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 Buckeye Malik Hooker even if there are no medical issues might have trouble living up to first round hype. Might improve in years to come. Mr. Irrelevant? But then again he's only spot from the first UFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKAllDay Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 Biggest bust: Myles Garrett He'll be solid but not worth a top 3 pick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoeticG Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 It really is about the team. No individual player can really do it all by themselves. We live and die as a team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 Watson. ^^^ Ditto. Add Kizer to the honorable mention bust list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 Hooker.....Trubisky..... Neither Mud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suomi Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 Garrett won't be a bust. The guy was the #2 ranked recruit coming out of high school. He broke Jadaveon Clowney's NCAA freshman sack record. He was an All-American as a sophomore. He had a high ankle sprain his junior year that impacted his mobility and should have kept him off the field, but he made All-American again anyway. The guy is a stud and Browns fans should be painting the walls white over their excitement to draft him. Bust of the first round: Mahomes (Ryan Leaf II) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StinkHole Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 Garrett won't be a bust. The guy was the #2 ranked recruit coming out of high school. He broke Jadaveon Clowney's NCAA freshman sack record. He was an All-American as a sophomore. He had a high ankle sprain his junior year that impacted his mobility and should have kept him off the field, but he made All-American again anyway. The guy is a stud and Browns fans should be painting the walls white over their excitement to draft him. Bust of the first round: Mahomes (Ryan Leaf II) But Clowney was the #1 out of high school. During his high school career, Clowney was often regarded as the best player in his class. ESPN described him as "a special talent who could have vied for the top spot in several previous classes."[11] Both major recruiting services, Rivals.com and Scout.com, as well as ESPNU, considered Clowney not only a five-star recruit, but also the No. 1 overall prospect of the 2011 class, basically throughout his senior year. A unanimous College All-American as a sophomore in 2012, Clowney set South Carolina school records in quarterback sacks (13.0) and tackles for a loss (23.5) per season while also earning Defensive Player of the Year honors in the Southeastern Conference. Described by ESPN as "one of those rare game-changers on defense," Clowney was drafted first overall by the Texans in the 2014. It's the same rhetoric, different player. That settles it....my choice to bust, Myles Garrett No, just kidding. Don't follow college ball and it's players enough to make an educated guess. Myles Garret may indeed be a bust, five years after he retires... as a bust in the HOF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 To me...Clowneys issue isnt his physical talent....it's his mind.... My take was always that he wasnt driven to be great and/or he wasnt really that into football.... You have to really want it.....Garrett seems to....Clowney never did.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TexasAg1969 Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 To me...Clowneys issue isnt his physical talent....it's his mind.... My take was always that he wasnt driven to be great and/or he wasnt really that into football.... You have to really want it.....Garrett seems to....Clowney never did.... But I think JJ has been a great influence on Clowney which is partially why he had a far better 2016, the other part being injuries the first 2 years. He'll be even better when Watt returns, just like I think Ogbah is gonna shine when O's take more notice of Garrett on the other end. Thomas is gonna make a real all-pro player out of Garrett within a couple of years. I think he is salivating over a chance to teach the rook a thing or two about how to beat great LT's. And Garrett is a more than willing student. It will be fun comparing the beginning games to the end ones this year to see how he progresses. I enjoyed watching Ogbah get better from beginning to end last year and can hardly wait to see him this year with more defensive help from day one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mudfly Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 And I do give Clowney credit for overcoming those injuries.....Im sure it took a lot of effort and work to get back.....and really didnt think he had it in him to do that.....the next few chapters in his book should be interesting..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 My pick is Barnett as a bust.Overrated. Of all the ones mentioned so far, I get the strongest feeling on this one as well. My new contribution.... Cam Robinson... at least at OT. He may have a shot at being a decent OG, but I don't see a chance at OT. Honorable mention: Fournette. I watch him and I see (no offense, Ag) Derrick Henry... good burst and straight ahead speed and power, but no lateral movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 Wasn't Clowney also touted as a beast? The first pick of the draft. No team could go wrong picking Clowney? Clowney at 6'5" and 270 and Garrett at 6'4", 272 have nearly the same physique...not that it proves anything. Exactly. Clowney more touted. Now, it seems perhaps that he is finalyl rounding into a productive player, but he has certainly underachieved to this point. Yes, injury is a fact....but a lot of player end up classified as busts due to injury. They are still busts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 Garrett won't be a bust. The guy was the #2 ranked recruit coming out of high school. He broke Jadaveon Clowney's NCAA freshman sack record. He was an All-American as a sophomore. He had a high ankle sprain his junior year that impacted his mobility and should have kept him off the field, but he made All-American again anyway. The guy is a stud and Browns fans should be painting the walls white over their excitement to draft him. Bust of the first round: Mahomes (Ryan Leaf II) My biggest concern about Garrett is that he earned much of his reputation by blowing away inferior competition. Like 75% of his sacks were against "mid-major" or D1-AA schools. When he had to go up against the talent of the SEC, he performed at a more mediocre level. There won't be any Prairie Views in the NFL. So, as great as everyone sees his potential, I am still skeptical for the above reason. I am not guaranteeing he will be a bust (like Ghoolie is), like I said though, I am not slobbering over him like some of all y'all. Given the Browns poor first round drafting history....I am skeptical of every one (yes, even MT..even though I may think he is our best chance of getting a franchise QB) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Gipper Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 Of all the ones mentioned so far, I get the strongest feeling on this one as well. My new contribution.... Cam Robinson... at least at OT. He may have a shot at being a decent OG, but I don't see a chance at OT. Honorable mention: Fournette. I watch him and I see (no offense, Ag) Derrick Henry... good burst and straight ahead speed and power, but no lateral movement. I think I do agree with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gumby73 Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 I think I do agree with this. It's the easy one that I agree with also.Almost any of them..OL men at next level have not seen the crazed Bobby Bu-shay right across from them..till now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DKAllDay Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 While we're on the record: Kizer is going to be the best QB of this draft Mahomes will bust Mitch will be average/solid like Dalton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjp28 Posted April 22, 2017 Report Share Posted April 22, 2017 I can't remember when I've heard such uncertainty from all the paid prognosticators about all of the potential top 3 or 4 round QB picks as in this year, almost makes everyone want to take a pass and go with best available unless you get some great deals from other teams to take a flyer on one. Sad thing is there are plenty of QB needs out there. Can't wait for Thursday to see how were we all wrong! (Wish it was still Saturday/Sunday on ESPN.) Wonder which QBs will break out in 2017-2018? Watch the BROWNS win a few too many games to grab one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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