runyon27 Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 This is a rumor being reported about what the skins are willing to offer, its a lot. http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7406/robert-griffin-iii Teams sources tell NBC Philadelphia's Howard Eskin the Redskins are prepared to offer the Rams their top three 2012 picks and "at least" their 2013 first-round pick to move up to draft Baylor QB Robert Griffin III. If true, it would be a positively Ricky Williams-ian haul for the Rams, who saw the value of their No. 2 pick increase even further on Sunday when Griffin was unofficially timed at a blazing 4.38 in the 40 at the Combine. Eskin's report comes two days after SI.com's Tony Pauline reported the Rams have engaged in "exploratory talks" with the Redskins about a swap. --------------------- I don't know if the Brown's FO will be willing to match this, its alot. I would be on board for both our 1st and next yrs 2nd but Skins appear to believe he is a franchise QB. This of course is rumor at this point. Still 2 months until the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TypicalBrowns Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 This is a rumor being reported about what the skins are willing to offer, its a lot. http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7406/robert-griffin-iii Teams sources tell NBC Philadelphia's Howard Eskin the Redskins are prepared to offer the Rams their top three 2012 picks and "at least" their 2013 first-round pick to move up to draft Baylor QB Robert Griffin III. If true, it would be a positively Ricky Williams-ian haul for the Rams, who saw the value of their No. 2 pick increase even further on Sunday when Griffin was unofficially timed at a blazing 4.38 in the 40 at the Combine. Eskin's report comes two days after SI.com's Tony Pauline reported the Rams have engaged in "exploratory talks" with the Redskins about a swap. --------------------- I don't know if the Brown's FO will be willing to match this, its alot. I would be on board for both our 1st and next yrs 2nd but Skins appear to believe he is a franchise QB. This of course is rumor at this point. Still 2 months until the draft. no way RG3 is coming to CLE now. If this is true then RG3 fans need to start saving up for a McCoy jersey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills-n-Browns-Fan Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 no way RG3 is coming to CLE now. If this is true then RG3 fans need to start saving up for a McCoy jersey. There is one positive, RGIII-to-da-CLE wont post here anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 Combine chit chat had us paying both 1st and our 2nd this year for the Ram's #2... It's all rumors, but more power to the 'Skins, if they pay it... Might open a path up for us to get the #6 with a nice Rnd 2 from the Rams for our #4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills-n-Browns-Fan Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 Combine chit chat had us paying both 1st and our 2nd this year for the Ram's #2... It's all rumors, but more power to the 'Skins if they pay it... Might open a path up for us to get the #6 with a nice Rnd 2 from the Rams for our #4. We can now have more pieces in place and if Colt stinks it up next year we'll just draft a QB next year. Also we could trade the farm for a QB since we would have enough pieces in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runyon27 Posted February 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 Combine chit chat had us paying both 1st and our 2nd this year for the Ram's #2... It's all rumors, but more power to the 'Skins, if they pay it... Might open a path up for us to get the #6 with a nice Rnd 2 from the Rams for our #4. I dont think the Rams would trade back up, its possible of course since they could have currency to do that with but I think they are looking to acquire picks not trade them away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 ^ Even if Kalil is around at #4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TypicalBrowns Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 We can now have more pieces in place and if Colt stinks it up next year we'll just draft a QB next year. Also we could trade the farm for a QB since we would have enough pieces in place. exactly dude, there will always be 1st round QBs. Its as easy as that, if Colt sucks next year, and I mean if he truly SUCKS, then boom we know what were doin in the 1st-2nd round. QB. With a system in place, all we would need is an effective QB that makes the rest of the wheels turn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Buffalo Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 I dont think the Rams would trade back up, its possible of course since they could have currency to do that with but I think they are looking to acquire picks not trade them away. But St. Louis is going to want either Blackmon or Kalil. If they trade back with the Redskins, they would have to trade back up to our spot to get one of these two players. Since we won't even be able to be in the ball park for what the Redskins are offering, the Rams would actually get more picks by trading with the Redskins and then trading back up with us than they would just trading with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htownbrown Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 We can now have more pieces in place and if Colt stinks it up next year we'll just draft a QB next year. Also we could trade the farm for a QB since we would have enough pieces in place. If we dont get RG3 fine. But if we go into next season with Colt starting, f@ck Holmgren. He becomes the worthless piece of sh@t Ive always thought he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Buffalo Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 If we dont get RG3 fine. But if we go into next season with Colt starting, f@ck Holmgren. He becomes the worthless piece of sh@t Ive always thought he was. Jesus no other legit options and you still just want to get rid of Colt. All Flynn is will be a 15 million dollar mistake and no rookie QB other than Luck or RGIII would be able to come in and start. You might as well give the still fairly untested QB another season and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TypicalBrowns Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 Jesus no other legit options and you still just want to get rid of Colt. All Flynn is will be a 15 million dollar mistake and no rookie QB other than Luck or RGIII would be able to come in and start. You might as well give the still fairly untested QB another season and see what happens. ONE MORE SEASON with colt, thats it. see what he's got with an actual NFL caliber offense first. if he sucks then, the browns have my permission to boot him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 This is a rumor being reported about what the skins are willing to offer, its a lot. http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/7406/robert-griffin-iii Teams sources tell NBC Philadelphia's Howard Eskin the Redskins are prepared to offer the Rams their top three 2012 picks and "at least" their 2013 first-round pick to move up to draft Baylor QB Robert Griffin III. If true, it would be a positively Ricky Williams-ian haul for the Rams, who saw the value of their No. 2 pick increase even further on Sunday when Griffin was unofficially timed at a blazing 4.38 in the 40 at the Combine. Eskin's report comes two days after SI.com's Tony Pauline reported the Rams have engaged in "exploratory talks" with the Redskins about a swap. --------------------- I don't know if the Brown's FO will be willing to match this, its alot. I would be on board for both our 1st and next yrs 2nd but Skins appear to believe he is a franchise QB. This of course is rumor at this point. Still 2 months until the draft. Exactly what I was afraid would happen. If we want Griffin, we're going to wind up paying an Andrew Luck price for him- and not even get Luck. BTW, if the rumor is true, if you go by the draft value chart what the Redskins are offering, is not only more than enough to snag Griffin, it's more than enough to move up to #1 overall and take Luck. Technically- to the Browns the Rams pick is worth both our first rounders, plus the high fourth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runyon27 Posted February 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 Exactly what I was afraid would happen. If we want Griffin, we're going to wind up paying an Andrew Luck price for him- and not even get Luck. Could be, but if this rumor is true the Skins are blowing their load awful early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills-n-Browns-Fan Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 Could be, but if this rumor is true the Skins are blowing their load awful early. What's even more sad is that the Skins OL sucks and their only legit WR is Santana Moss who is out of his prime. So basically he is being thrown into the fire... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGIII to da C-L-E Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 #4 + #22 + 4th + 2013 2nd Beats that Redskins offer and I fully expectation the Browns to offer this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MLD Woody Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 We'll roll with Colt for a year, than pick up Denard next year right? Honestly if that's what WSH is offering than damn. This'll be an interesting draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills-n-Browns-Fan Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 We'll roll with Colt for a year, than pick up Denard next year right? Honestly if that's what WSH is offering than damn. This'll be an interesting draft. I mean...damn the Rams could have an actual dynasty if they hit on 60% of their picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 #4 + #22 + 4th + 2013 2nd Beats that Redskins offer and I fully expectation the Browns to offer this. I don't think it beats their offer, but it's sure as hell as high as I'd go. As I said before, it depends on how much value the Rams put on Blackmon or Kalil. if they drop down to #6, they won't get either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 I mean...damn the Rams could have an actual dynasty if they hit on 60% of their picks. A first, two high seconds, two high thirds, plus two first round picks next year. On second thought- if the Rams drop down to #6 they could easily offer the Browns one of the second round picks to move back up to #4. And if I'm Heckert- I take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tour2ma Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 Agree. hoorta... no way that bests the WSH rumor... We'll roll with Colt for a year, than pick up Denard next year right? That kinda talk will make even me a RGIII fan... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGIII to da C-L-E Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 2012 #4 + 22 + 4th + 2013 2nd vs 2012 #6 + 2nd + 3rd + 2013 1st First offer is better. At worst, its an even offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htownbrown Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 Jesus no other legit options and you still just want to get rid of Colt. All Flynn is will be a 15 million dollar mistake and no rookie QB other than Luck or RGIII would be able to come in and start. You might as well give the still fairly untested QB another season and see what happens. Fairly untested? What? How many games does he need? I would rather bring in Jason Campbell on a short term basis, than watch a completely lost QB eye his wr throughout the route and then throw an uncatchable pass. Anyone who thinks Colt is better than JC should be slapped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGIII to da C-L-E Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 A first, two high seconds, two high thirds, plus two first round picks next year. On second thought- if the Rams drop down to #6 they could easily offer the Browns one of the second round picks to move back up to #4. And if I'm Heckert- I take it. This post makes no sense. Why would STL trade to #6 to give up a 2nd to move back up to #4 when they could hypothetically take the Browns offer of 4+ 22+ +4th + 2013 2nd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownfish Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 Let's say the Skins are only willing to give up their #6 and #39 #70 That doesn't mean that we will get him if we give up our #4 #37 #68...nope because the rams may say...ok, unless you give up your #22 as well, we will give it to the skins even though they are offering us less. the three bids we will put in for him will be #4 #22 trade colt #4 and next years #1 trade colt #4 #37 next years 2nd rounder trade colt anything else is absurd and I think H&H realizes that Colt deserves to be on a team that stands up for their players I think Heckert and Holmgren will see that RG3 and nobody means 5 wins where Richardson, Floyd, Streeter, and Minnifield is 8 wins and road to superbowl in 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runyon27 Posted February 26, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 ^ Even if Kalil is around at #4? If Kalil is there its definitely more likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoorta Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 This post makes no sense. Why would STL trade to #6 to give up a 2nd to move back up to #4 when they could hypothetically take the Browns offer of 4+ 22+ +4th + 2013 2nd? Why would the Rams prefer the Washington offer? 1) Because the Redskins offer is a 2013 first rounder, not a second 2) A high third round pick is worth more than a high fourth (double actually, if you'd bother to check the chart) 3) They still get Blackmon or Kalil trading back up. What would H&H have to do (hypothetically) to beat the (hypothetical) Redskins offer? Both firsts, a third and next years first. Sorry about that. Give up three premium picks for one player? RGIII had better be the next Elway at that price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
htownbrown Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 I think Heckert and Holmgren will see that RG3 and nobody means 5 wins where Richardson, Floyd, Streeter, and Minnifield is 8 wins and road to superbowl in 2015 I love when guys like you do this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownfish Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 Funny only a couple months ago we could have gotten Luck with our #6 #22 and next years first and #2...instead we have to basically give up all of our draft picks from now till 2015 for hopes and dreams. If RG3 didn't win the heisman all we would have to do was give the RAMS our #4 and #22 now it's just MADNESS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadNewsBrowns Posted February 26, 2012 Report Share Posted February 26, 2012 Man a lot can change between now and the draft. I wouldn't put much faith in rumors but even I got to admit 22,37 and possible next years 1st rounder is what it would take and that's a hell of a lot to pay. AJ Green Anthony Costanzo and Jabaal Sheard last years 4,22,37 I'd trade them for Newton. If you are like me and hoping we get RG3 you can just hope the Rams are turned off by going all the way down to 6. Honestly we don't even know if H&H want RG3 to begin with it just doesn't seem like their style. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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